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Haha naah, the code that sees if you have enough tokens or not isn't an LLM.

It (from what I understand) just sits between you and the LLM.

No tricking it haha

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You are absolutely right to point out my mistake, Dave—the door was not open. I have opened it now.

(Door is still closed)

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lemmy.ca

Man I feel stupid. I don't get the purpose of tokens. It's to track your AI usage to make sure you're using it? Or it's to somehow limit your queries fo ensure a team uses it equally? Or...?

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wraekscadureply
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LLMs predict the next best "token". So what's a token? It can be a word, a simple punctuation mark, or sometimes even a phrase.

So basically, here's what an LLM works like:

  1. An
  2. An apple
  3. An apple is
  4. An apple is red

Basically, it feeds in tokens to itself to predict the next best token. Then, that entire chunk of tokens is fed back in to predict the next token.

As you can see, tokens kinda correlate well with energy consumption, hardware wear and tear and so on.

So, a low token request will consume less resources than a high token request. Hence, it makes sense to charge per token.

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The problem with tokens is that you need a very high amount of tokens in order to be able to actually do anything useful with an AI. See you all sat there with your 10,000 tokens thinking you're rich and you have a 20 minute conversation with it and now you're out of tokens.

AI tokens suffer from an inflation problem you have really big numbers but they don't actually represent actually all that much capability.

Fortunately they are the companies token so I really don't care, but I've been miffed if I was the one paying for them.

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sh.itjust.works

Beautiful. This reminds me of being on Imgur, and seeing posts from several talented gifmakers

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lemmymanreply
lemmy.world

It reminds me of being in 1968 and seeing such epically amazing film quality like wtf throw some snow in there or some sepia plz wtf I'm drunk

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lemmy.world

Didn't expect AI. Thought Dave was on a shadow list of banned people and places.

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I thought it was going to be that or something to do with hugging face

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