It's funny to see all the positive (including audience) reactions, after most of the internet discourse over the last few months was about how terrible the movie would be.
I'm lucky enough to have a (digital) IMAX theatre relatively nearby, so I'm planning to watch it there in a few weeks when the screenings are getting less crowded.
after most of the internet discourse over the last few months was about how terrible the movie would be.
Honestly, 99% of that, from what I could infer without spoiling every detail of the movie, were incels upset some dark skin actress was cast as Helen of Troy
People also made a big thing out of the helmets being period-inaccurate. Which they absolutely are, but it was weird how people seemed to care so much for this movie in particular, whereas no-one seemed to give a shit about all the inaccuracies in the Gladiator movies for example.
Even if that were the case, the Odyssey is a work of fiction; we don't even know if Homer actually existed, if he was a single person or multiple story tellers blended together by lack of details...
"Critics" pretending to know and be outraged about X not been exactly what they thought when they read the book cliff notes in their mom's sock smelling basement are just noise
It's so weird to be complaining about the accents. It's a movie that takes place in ancient Greece, FFS; we have no idea what their accents would sound like if they were somehow capable of speaking modern English, since their entire culture pre-dates audio recording technology (and modern English, for that matter) by multiple millenia.
Seriously, people are just weirdly conditioned to the classical world speaking with a British accent for some reason, I guess.
Yeah, that's fair. I didn't think the trailers were amazing either, although it did seem like they were purposefully not giving too much away, which I appreciate. But people got really hung up on the smallest details to prematurely declare it a bad movie.
Not really. He's not as overrated as he used to be. People have started seeing through his Grand visuals combined with a heavy score. He's being heavily criticised for not able to write female characters.
The people who are hung up on the plot are strange to me. It's science fiction with time travel, and the black hole mcguffin tying it all together is as good of a rationale as any.
If you want things that only have "hard" science fiction, there are other stories for that. If instead you grew up watching stuff like star trek and enjoyed it then maybe you can appreciate it for what it is: a story with a whole load of emotion and science fiction.
All time travel is bogus as far as we know. Stories with it can still be entertaining.
I’m waiting for discount Tuesday at my local IMAX theater to see it. For those who have seen it, was the use of modern lingo not bad as it seemed to be? I was kinda turned off with the trailers.
Also, is everything just dark and blue hues or is there at least some color like it was actually supposed to happen in the Mediterranean, and not Scandinavia? Those were my only gripes when I saw the trailer.
And I hope the dialogue isn’t just exposition (see Tenet).
RT is paid reviews and unreliable. I'll wait for unpaid second hand reviews. Critics these days are all paid because Hollywood is hemorrhaging money with every flop that's come out and are hoping for release hype to get back as much as possible in the first few weeks.
If I'm wrong then I'm wrong. Remind me in a month if this movie is actually an IGN 10/10
maybe some day I see it and I hope I like it. I feel like things that I see that get massive this is the best thing every is like alright nowadays and things that see that get pretty good are meh and meh is just stinkaroo. I feel like movie reviews have something like grade inflation.
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It's funny to see all the positive (including audience) reactions, after most of the internet discourse over the last few months was about how terrible the movie would be.
I'm lucky enough to have a (digital) IMAX theatre relatively nearby, so I'm planning to watch it there in a few weeks when the screenings are getting less crowded.
Honestly, 99% of that, from what I could infer without spoiling every detail of the movie, were incels upset some dark skin actress was cast as Helen of Troy
Garbage people are louder than ever
People also made a big thing out of the helmets being period-inaccurate. Which they absolutely are, but it was weird how people seemed to care so much for this movie in particular, whereas no-one seemed to give a shit about all the inaccuracies in the Gladiator movies for example.
Also, I bet a lot of the people complaining about that loved 300 and will tell people how it's actually really deep and has an important message
The message of 300 was deep. We need more hot man on man action films.
If I paint abs on my flap does it count?
of course it counts! it's my only hope
Hasn't pretty much every period piece ever produced been criticized through the lens of historical accuracy?
They were very upset about Denzel being in Rome.
Do you know that for a fact? Or did you just not pay attention?
Saw a lot of talk about the accents and the period incorrect uniforms. But yeah, internet gonna internet.
Even if that were the case, the Odyssey is a work of fiction; we don't even know if Homer actually existed, if he was a single person or multiple story tellers blended together by lack of details...
"Critics" pretending to know and be outraged about X not been exactly what they thought when they read the book cliff notes in their mom's sock smelling basement are just noise
It's so weird to be complaining about the accents. It's a movie that takes place in ancient Greece, FFS; we have no idea what their accents would sound like if they were somehow capable of speaking modern English, since their entire culture pre-dates audio recording technology (and modern English, for that matter) by multiple millenia.
Seriously, people are just weirdly conditioned to the classical world speaking with a British accent for some reason, I guess.
the people that complaint about accents probably would walk away if the movie was actually made in ancient greek with subtitles
even so, who cares? it's not a documentary
Yes, I agree with you. Those were simply additional bloviated discussions I saw.
That or the fact that a trans person played a supporting role
the horror!!!! someone I don't know does something different from what I would do!!! it's the end of the world I taell ya
Also no greek representation
To be fair, the trailers weren't very flattering. I wasn't expecting the movie to be that good either.
Yeah, that's fair. I didn't think the trailers were amazing either, although it did seem like they were purposefully not giving too much away, which I appreciate. But people got really hung up on the smallest details to prematurely declare it a bad movie.
Which seems kinda crazy because wasn't the internet absolutely glazing Christopher Nolan just a couple years ago?
I still like his Dark Knight trilogy, and Inception is still fairly original.
That was before he cast a black woman to play "the face that launched a thousand ships" and a trans man to play... well, anyone, really.
It's just all stupid culture war bullshit.
Ah. Then I'll continue to enjoy his movies.
Not really. He's not as overrated as he used to be. People have started seeing through his Grand visuals combined with a heavy score. He's being heavily criticised for not able to write female characters.
I've had Christopher Nolan in the "Hit or miss" category since Interstellar and Dunkirk. Interstellar was so shit
The Odyssey is now Christopher Nolan's highest-rated film on Rotten Tomatoes.
Critic reviews are so all over the place. 73% for interstellar is wild, it's #17 on IMDB at 8.7.
The threshold for rotten tomatoes critics though is about as low as the mariana trench.
Interstellar's plot is complete dogshit though
The people who are hung up on the plot are strange to me. It's science fiction with time travel, and the black hole mcguffin tying it all together is as good of a rationale as any.
If you want things that only have "hard" science fiction, there are other stories for that. If instead you grew up watching stuff like star trek and enjoyed it then maybe you can appreciate it for what it is: a story with a whole load of emotion and science fiction.
All time travel is bogus as far as we know. Stories with it can still be entertaining.
A lot of Nolan’s movies have stupid plots and make up for it by being an absolute spectacle
That is one impressive filmography.
Damn, higher than Oppenheimer.
I don't trust RT and I don't trust first reviewers opinions. The real score will be on Imbd in 2-3 weeks. I really hope it's this good.
IMDb also tends to be very generous. I think FilmAffinity is more reliable.
Yes you're right.
It was good. Not 100% faithful to the source material but when are movies ever? It was pretty dang entertaining.
I hope this gives an aneurysm to Elon.
I hope Elon gets an aneurysm from something much more common and mundane like a bagel or looking at the sky.
I’m waiting for discount Tuesday at my local IMAX theater to see it. For those who have seen it, was the use of modern lingo not bad as it seemed to be? I was kinda turned off with the trailers.
Also, is everything just dark and blue hues or is there at least some color like it was actually supposed to happen in the Mediterranean, and not Scandinavia? Those were my only gripes when I saw the trailer.
And I hope the dialogue isn’t just exposition (see Tenet).
There's color depending on where they are. As for dialogue, it's pretty much all exposition but it didn't bother me and it usually does ¯\(ツ)/¯.
Modern lingo wasnt my favorite but it was fine.
RT is paid reviews and unreliable. I'll wait for unpaid second hand reviews. Critics these days are all paid because Hollywood is hemorrhaging money with every flop that's come out and are hoping for release hype to get back as much as possible in the first few weeks.
If I'm wrong then I'm wrong. Remind me in a month if this movie is actually an IGN 10/10
maybe some day I see it and I hope I like it. I feel like things that I see that get massive this is the best thing every is like alright nowadays and things that see that get pretty good are meh and meh is just stinkaroo. I feel like movie reviews have something like grade inflation.