SpaceX stock sinks below $135 IPO price for the first time(70% off from its peak); SpaceX has lost more than $800 billion in market value from its closing high seen a month ago
cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1264357/spacex-stock-sinks-below-135-ipo-price-for-the-first-time
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So, another rug pull. Who could hand guessed
Wealthsimple Canada advertised that clients could buy shares at IPO prices, but they couldn't sell their shares right away. Why would I do that?!?
Just because a stock has lost 70% of its value doesn't mean it can't lose 70% more.
Jokes on you because it never had any real value to begin with
While I detest Elon, the company definitely has some value. They’re still the global launch leader at this time. That said, their valuation based on promises of AI and asteroid mining is complete nonsense.
It had value, before it bought xAI.
Now there's an infinite money pit attached to it
Rocket launch, Twitter and xAI is roughly a zero valuation.
Starlink the worlds fastest growing ISP, while having an enormous profit margin is the bread and butter. From a serious perspective, also what you should aim the valuation for.
Did their IPO launch at a fair valuation? Hell nah
Sure, but you are talking about being the leader in an industry that has historically been the profitless province of state sponsored exploration, scientific discovery, with supplementing industrial functions as a value-add. It is not a given what value there actually is in being the leader in this field.
It's almost like things are fundamentally different now from "historically." Historically, we (I'm in the launch vehicle industry) didn't have reusable launch vehicles. Even 10 years ago the launch community was hugely skeptical of being able to successfully refurbish a rocket and maintain mission assurance.
My point is that most of the launches being performed now are not state sponsored or for scientific discovery. You are looking at it from the lens of a period when there were only two providers and only a few customers. With tons of commercial companies interested in proliferated LEO programs, there is a lot of profit in launch.
However, that STILL only gives the stock a value of around $8/share.
If you took the state funding out of Space X how much money do they make?
NASA flies roughly 3 missions per year. DoD/DoW launches around 12 missions per year. NRO launches around 5 per year. That is a total of around 20 government missions per year. SpaceX launches roughly 150 missions per year, so removing state funding would only take out about 13% of their $18 billion annual revenue. 100 of those launches are Starlink, which gets funded by both commercial, private users, and government users.
That 18 billion in revenue already results in an operating loss of 4 billion a year. So its a little odd to hear you act like "only" losing another 13% is insignificant since it would increase their loss by about 30%.
Also, that is assuming that all launches cost the same, which is probably not the case at all. The NASA launches are likely considerably more costly than Starlink launches.
That was because it was so costly to get even a single kg into orbit. The commercial satellite industry is a quarter of a trillion dollars and growing in part because the cost to get stuff in orbit is going down.
Displaying tit can lose 70% again.
Let's strive for 100%. Normally I find 70% a totally acceptable percentage, but when it comes to loss of value of anything fElon owns I think 100% loss would be the more favorable outcome. Or even better, let it be 120%, I'd love to see that loser to be in debt the rest of his miserable life.
Fingers crossed!
It's pretty common for stock to drop after IPO. This is just a bigger drop than usual.
I'm glad S&P didn't give in to SpaceX's demand to add them to the S&P 500.
True, though they did get into the NASDAQ-100 early and the Russell indices early.
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The floor for this stock is under $30.
Musk has been compensating his employees with stocks instead of salaries for 20 years. Some of those older employees were "paid in" at $3-4 after splits while employee's as recent as 2024 would be holding shares @ ~ $30.
I'm going to assume the current downward pressure is people anticipating this late-july deadline allowing SPCX employees to sell off the first 20% of their stocks.
This was me in my twenties.
So you're claiming not to be full of shit anymore...?
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Keep going; there’s a lot to lose before it’s a realistic value.
Hmmm, sounds like it's almost time to go on Amazon and sell some "I bought SPCX before I knew Elon was crazy" bumper stickers.
From good ol’ Liberal Fig Leaves, LLC
I think that's low enough to demote Musk from trillionaire back down to just obscenely wealthy.
That's actually old news, of which I was surprised. I went looking yesterday :)
https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/elon-musk-loses-trillionaire-status-233940906.html
Thus proving again that these numbers have little meaning.
Yeah. I'm a millionnaire everytime I play the slot machine, at least while it runs.
Yes and no. Lets not forget that 800B came from working class retail investors. Which while they maybe be insufferable idiots they still have more in common with us than the billionaire fucks using retail investors as exit liquidity.
Now add Tesla to spaceX so they all can go down.
Now that both China and Japan have recently demonstrated having reusable rockets, SpaceX's cash cow has lost its luster.
Sauce?