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sh.itjust.works

Yes, the ruling class wants to reduce the global population, which is why the ruling class is also constantly talking about how we need to increase birthrates.

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iktreply
aussie.zone

i mean ruling class // basic economics

lots of old people + more pensions + more healthcare costs + less young people working = young people pay more taxes + work harder for less = a bad thing

outside of some techno fantasy solution where robots care for the elderly (how dystopian in itself) having more old people than young people is never a good thing

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But it's good for the current old people that can exploit the labor of a larger young population and then die before they have to deal with the fallout.

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Who is the "ruling class" in this context? Governments, billionaires, someone entirely different? Because I think you'll find it might not be the same people doing each of these things…

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Only white birth rates. They explicitly say they each to reduce the population otherwise.

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Is the first part ironic and the second not ironic? It's not clear.

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lemmy.world

People in this thread talking about population issues and I ā€˜m just here wondering how they knew how to make more sexually attractive rabbit sex toys.

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RamenJunkiereply
midwest.social

Aussie Scientist 1: "Oi, do you think her bedroom eyes are sexy enough?"

Aussie Scientist 2: "Looks good mate, but what if we also.give her some huge melons."

Aussie Scientist 1: "Rabbits don't huge melons, that'll be unrealistic."

Aussie Scientist 2: "Maybe, or the male rabbits will get a new fetish."

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leminal.space

The related program to control the venomous spider population was a failure because they couldn’t find a scientist who could imagine being here to fuck spiders

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Tar_Alcaranreply
sh.itjust.works

The list of things rabbits will fuck is a lot longer than the list of things they won't.

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That is also a gesture of domination for them, as far as i know. They werent necessarily horny, just trying to put the other in their place

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lemmy.world

Problems with this theory:

  • Japan is even more affected by this phenomenon of low birth rates.
  • Not even normies are reproducing.
  • The real problem is more complicated.
  • OP is a f...
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lugalreply

Not to argue about the other points but:

  • Japan is even more affected by this phenomenon of low birth rates.

Isn't that where anime girls come from? So who ever wants to lower birth rates worldwide, started in Japan and now reaches other countries.

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Maybe the weapon got out of control and Japan was the first victim.

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lemmy.world

everyone is becoming femboys with animal tails. and they are so sexy that normie men have lost interest in normie women.

that's the problem.

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I think anime girls predate Japan's current demographic problems. There was concerns in the past in Japan about overcrowding and anime girls may have appeared around that time.

So this theory is still plausible.

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fedia.io

People turn to escapism because they are struggling to make connections in the outside world, not the other way around.

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What if I don't turn to escapism, but also don't make connections... because both are really weird and boring?

And I just kinda chill out with my dog and cook a lot and learn shit. folks ask me what I'm up to lately and i'm like 'oh I'm taking professional cooking classes and getting yelled at by chefs and making awesome food!' and they slowly back away.

sometimes i wonder if being a weeb would be more socially acceptable.

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lemmy.world

I personally would have blamed the cost of raising children myself ngl.

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quarkquasarreply
lemmy.world

Cost is like, towards the end of the list of why I wouldn't have kids. It's certainly there, but number 1 would probably be something like "I would never forgive myself for bringing another life into this shitty world unsolicited".

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Also pretty up there is "I'd have to grow it inside my body, and then move it outside my body".

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lemmy.world

if you have so much money why do you think the world is so shit? legit question.

like, just go spend it and enjoy it.

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quarkquasarreply
lemmy.world

Well, if you could point out to me where I said I "have so much money", that'd be great.

Otherwise one of us is going to look like an idiot.

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lemmy.world

if you can afford a child with minimal impact to your lifestyle, you are quite wealthy.

childcare is like 2-3K a month, for that to not substantailly impact you, i would assume your take home is northwards of 10K+ a month, which means you're making close to 200K+. which is often the income bracket at which having children is not a life-style altering choice.

for most folks, having a kid is so expensive it completely alters their lifestyle because it removes like 30-50% of their income.

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lemmy.world

implying children aren't a financial burden implies you're wealthy.

the original post says 'cost' and the other person goes 'cost isn't a reason for me'.

so i go 'ok how much do you make that cost isn't a reason for you?' because the legit reason for the vast majority of folks, is the cost. they can't afford kids, so they don't have them.

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No, the other person said cost is not the highest on the list.

You're the one crusading for it to be "not a reason".

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quarkquasarreply
lemmy.world

Nah, that's crazy, I said cost would be towards the bottom of my list. Because there are a lot more, better reasons.

And then I said "number 1 would probably be something like ā€œI would never forgive myself for bringing another life into this shitty world unsolicitedā€."

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"Having to clean the fork would be pretty far down the list of reasons why I don't want to stab myself with a fork"

"Oh, you enjoy doing the dishes?"

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Naw.

But even if I did, it wouldn't move the needle much, because cost would be toward the bottom of my list of reasons not to have kids.

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jnod4reply
lemmy.ca

You can enjoy life if you abandon empathy. I'm enjoying the best nightclubs but I walking past a bunch of malnourished and un housed individuals does bring something to think about the whole night

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lemmy.world

feeling bad for homeless people isn't empathy. it's pity.

it's really more about you stoking your own ego.

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I don't, because I don't like being around people who jerk themselves off about how empathic they are for feeling bad for poor people on the street. Just like I don't like folks who jerk themselves off about how amazing they are and who talk in absolute and hyperbole.

which is, a large percentage of the userbase here, for sure. according to like 40% of the users here, nobody has ever suffered as they have, and nobody is more empathic to the plight of the unfortunate as they are. and yeah, why the fuck would anyone want to be friends with those people... well probably other people like them so they can jerk each other off about how they use Linux and they're saving the world from billionaires by doing so.

weirdly enough, my friends and I in the real world, volunteer in our communities and do shit that helps homeless folks. I've literally helped homeless people apply for jobs. But apparently that means i have no empathy, because I'd rather help folks directly than walk home from the bar drunk and feel bad for them... weird!

almost as if the cure to feeling sorry for yourself and that the world is shit... is going out there and improving it, and not being a whiny miserable cunt of a person who jerks themselves off about how great they are online, or at the bar. because there are plenty of folks like that at the bar too.

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lemmy.world

It's also a personal choice. No, I'm not talking about a person being gay, but a lot of people don't mind being single. Or if they are partnered, they choose not to have any children. I personally fall in the former category.

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lemmy.world

I'm single and pretty much every single woman I met doesn't want kids. They just want to spend their money on travel and restaurants and they think kids, or even pets, will take away from that.

I don't get it, but I'm also not on social media hours a day watching influencers who glorify traveling and michelin star restaurants as the pinnacle of human achievement.

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Meatwagonreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I fully understand why no one would want to willingly subject themselves to the current state of women's healthcare.

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In all fairness, if you have money, health care has never been better, women's or otherwise. The "if you have money" is an issue, though.

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they aren't poor. they are rich. they have the best healthcare and the best hospitals in the friggin' world. literally, the best hospital for maternity in the entire USA is about a 15m drive from my home.

your point would only make sense if it was in a rural area with poor incomes, which indeed, have awful healthcare outcomes and is the majority of america, sadly.

their issue is not healthcare access. it's that they spend 50K a year traveling and think it's unfair and awful and they want to spend closer to 500K a year traveling, and the idea of having to like, only travel twice a year and have a kid is unfathomable awful to them. even the richest mofos in USA basically think kids are too expensive even thought they can easily afford them.

meanwhile all my friends who have kids, don't travel at all and don't go out to expensive restaurants. funny that.

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

There's also a major ethical issue with bringing a child into this doomed world

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lemmy.world

The world is only doomed if you're poor.

If you have a few million in the bank, it's great and going to get even better.

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sh.itjust.works

In some ways sure, but our current ecological trajectory is pointed towards issues even fabulous wealth will only be able to mitigate.

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it's not, but keep telling yourself that because it makes you feel smart and important, no doubt.

we will invent better crops dude. humans are incredibly successful at adapting to changing climate conditions, it's the reason our species is all over the fucking planet, even in the harshest environments.

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A few million? Nah, that is not being rich. A few billions, and then we're talking. Then we are starting to get into private island and bunker in New Zealand money. A few millions is just a successful lawyer, not-so-small business owner or someone who inherited a house in a good part of the town. They may be more than a cancer diagnosis away from poverty, but not by much.

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"Did you ever find Bugs Bunny attractive when he put on a dress and played a girl bunny?" - Garth Algar

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And their "art collections" are like an absorber keeping school zones and playgrounds safer. Even young girls at the mall can feel more confident knowing a balance of constant rejection and a gig of manga girls keep the average weeb at bay.

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iktreply
aussie.zone

You’ll love what they tried next: Fencing them in (stupid long fences)

I duno when it goes from stupid to impressive

That's a bloody long fence!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit-proof_fence#/media/File:Rabbit_proof_fence_in_Western_Australia.PNG

Surely Guinness Book of Records!

edit turns out it's another fence in Australia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingo_Fence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_fence_in_the_world

Apparently we were mad about putting up fence posts back in the day

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lemmy.cafe

I think humanity should go extinct anyway and avoiding having children seems to be a peaceful way to do so. The more we breed the more we perpetuate the agony of existence.

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lightnsfwreply
reddthat.com

I say this kind of shit and I don't have any kids. Most of the people I know who say shit like this aren't having kids.

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You do you, every extinctionist is really just thinking about the favor they are doing to their unborn kids and not subjecting them to this shit

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Reborn_Mormonreply
lemmy.world

Put a dick where my mouth is and watch it either get sucked or bitten off. Either way, you will not have a dick when I'm done with it, so this is a fun way to prank your sister, I've found. Only works once, though, unfortunately.

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Reborn_Mormonreply
lemmy.world

I would never fuck my brother. I only fuck my sister and have since our mother died.

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It's not really peaceful i'd say. society's infrastructure needs maintainers. The survivors of population decline would witness famines again, important civil structures collapsing, medication shortages, and a variety of other terrible woes. It's not nuclear fallout or anything, but it's not peaceful by any means either.

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Ecofascism, as far as I know, is when you use an extremist authoritarian enforcement of racist beliefs under the pretext of environmentalism, which is not what I claimed. I am not particularly targeting a specific group of people but humanity as a whole and I do not enforce my beliefs unto others at all really. Antinatalism is an existential problem, not a political one.

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aussie.zone

It's a dark way of looking at it but every problem modern society and the earth is facing could be solved by having the human race drop back about 40-55%

If we go back to about 3 billion people on earth most of the problems would be solved.

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RamenJunkiereply
midwest.social

Yes but also no.

We have the means to support everyome, but we also have a small minority assholes who are OBSESSED with making spreadsheet numbers go up so we can't because profits are all that matter.

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Those problems all existed when we were a few million people.

The ancient civilizations are full of people bitching about how miserable life is and how if we only all followed God(s) all our issues would be magically solved. Sound familiar?

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Reborn_Mormonreply
lemmy.world

But the Earth is an illusion. It literally doesn't exist. We are not featherless bipeds on an Earth, but rather we are pockets of consciousness called monads in a monadic nodal communication system. Your basic assumptions about reality are fundamentally wrong and you are confident limiting the harvest is ideal. This is terrifying, so I'm glad you are hypnotized by the matrix into being a controlled drone of a human being, but you are dangerous in your ignorance.

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Reborn_Mormonreply
lemmy.world

I'll node your twinkle-toed communist cocksucker all the way up to the balcony and throw you off for monading my dingle-doo visuals with such turgid marshmallows

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sh.itjust.works

I already had two kids and let me tell you 7 years with their mother really took a toll on me. I happily fap to anime chicks now with a clean conscience I am done with real women.

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TheSladreply
sh.itjust.works

Gonna egde myself to anime chicks for a few hours tonight. Hoping to go at least four hours, but will definitely go more than two. Gonna blast ropes over my shoulder and splatter the cum-wall behind me.

Want to know even more?

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lemmy.world

No, I want to edge to your ex wife abusing you. Nothing gets me hotter than a miserable middle aged woman resenting the men in her life as worthless pieces of shit.

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TheSladreply
sh.itjust.works

Sorry to bust your fantasy, but we never even married! Shes now a miserable middle aged woman with some other sorry son of a bitch :) Meanwhile I happily fap to hentai in my own house that I own after eating avocado toast for breakfast.

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Yeah, it's more like people making anime girl body pillows saw a market of desperate lonely people they could exploit than a plot to prevent anon from finding their true love.

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fedinsfw.app

I don't think that's why people aren't reproducing. I also think it's probably okay if maybe Earth just wasn't meant to have 9 billion people on it.

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Floodedwombreply
lemmy.world

We actually produce enough food ro feed everyone on the planet twice over.

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BlaestEgnenreply
feddit.dk

Food isn't everything, we're overusing resources in other spaces too; People don't really want to slow down on electrical consumption, travel or general waste/plastics

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Leonreply
pawb.social

It's not so much overusing as wasting. Capitalism has lead to an overproduction of low quality garbage that ultimately ends up in landfills. Fast fashion brands that produce more low quality clothing than they can sell, just for unbought good to end up in landfills. Food that is thrown away because there's a surplus that can't be sold because it doesn't meet particular standards despite being perfectly edible.

We could optimise processes, make waste and overproduction the more expensive alternative. We don't, however, because it'd lead to lower profits and we hold up profits above all else.

The average person doesn't really need to travel less. A family of 2-4 people commuting by jet with another ~100 passengers once or twice a year is going to have way lower emissions than say, Elon Musk, Taylor Swift, or fucking Linus Techtips.

Sure, individuals can change their habits, and in large swathes it will make things better. But it won't fix anything, because the problem was never the average person. The problem lies with corporations and the mega rich. They're the ones that need to go.

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Nice find with the LTT jet :)

But I agree and disagree. One Elon is "worth" 1000s of people in terms of consumption, but also, there is only one Elon and there are millions of people for every Elon who cannot afford shit.

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We actually had hit a peak on water consupmtion per houshold. I think it wouldn't be farfetched to see we would have hit an energy consumption peak had the internet not been invented, and that we would have hit a cap even then if LLMs and crypto hadn't become widespread. We just keep coming up with stupid reasons to burn electricity!

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I'm not totally sure why people are talking about food availability to me. The fact that there's enough food means the earth IS meant to have 9 + billion people on it?

There will be some painful short-term consequences of population contraction, but no one has really convinced me we need to try to force people to have children yet, and "we could totally feed them" isn't a compelling reason for forced reproduction either. Let the population decline if it's going to!

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9-10 billion wouldn't be a problem if our food was mostly vegan... We'd even still have space left that we could rewild.

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I don't need to pass my genes for my personal offspring. This is not what parenting is about.

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lemmy.world

I just started having sex with men and other people with penises, such as my sister. I dunno about you, but I think I'm pregnant. Certainly have been trying for a while and a half now.

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Seth Taylorreply
lemmy.world

Wait... you're having sex with your sister? What? What am I missing here? What is this? I am so confused

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I like incest, I dunno what to tell you. Really sucks that she died all those years ago, but that's nothing to stand between the love and lust I have for my sister's pieces.

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piefed.zip

Two things:

  1. This isn't TikTok, you can call them pedofiles
  2. Who said anything about pedofiles reproducing?
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RepleteLocumreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone
  1. Girl?
  2. I could list you thousands of either adult women or children who aren't sexualized. Just because a few anime's do, doesn't mean all are like that. And yes, it's only a few. Gooners are represented, but there are hundred of thousands of bl mangas and non comedy anime's. (Not to mention manga, manhua and light novels.)
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Go to myanimelist and look at the genres like slice of life, gourmet or horror. Sure, slice of life has stuff like Kobayashi maid dragon which is kinda weird with the three children. But around it are all, to my knowledge, "normal" anime's.

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Fizzreply
lemmy.nz

I dont watch anime but doesnt the majority of anime have at least one sexualised child in it?

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lime!reply
feddit.nu

i don't watch tv so i assume the same is true there.

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Fizzreply
lemmy.nz

As a TV watcher its not. There a very very few children being sexualized.

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Buddy, you’re gonna have to type a little louder. I can barely make out what you’re saying through the ejaculate obstructing my screen, glasses, and silver betta fish. Princess ruto says hi, by the way.

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Jankatarchreply
lemmy.world

I am still curious why you censored the word "pedophile."

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I get the impression most people here haven’t actually been to 4chan at any point during their lifetime. This is, on 4chan, standard, ambient trolling that most wouldn’t even glance at twice. Here, the compounding confusion at a statement that isn’t wholly honest drew like 50 people to arms and maybe a quarter of them recognized the situation for what it is. Someone goofin’

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lime!reply
feddit.nu

does snorkmaiden from the 90s anime count?

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lime!reply
feddit.nu

that wasn't part of your question. have you now changed it to "show me an animu you jork it to that doesn't look like a kid"? because that's pretty damn close to accusing every respondent of being a paedo.

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