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sh.itjust.works

Binface has 4-1 odds to win, so there seems to be a very real chance he wins this election.

Which would be absolutely hilarious.

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lemmy.today

It's Count Binface. For now. I don't think that a peer can serve in the House of Commons, so I think that he might just have to give up his title and serve as Binface if elected.

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NateNate60reply
lemmy.world

"Count" is not a valid title in the British peerage. The equivalent rank in the UK is "earl". Though if he wins, I think it'd be a moment of immense cultural significance so he should immediately be elevated to the Lords as a life peer, just to make the title official. He can be Britain's only living count.

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lemmy.today

searches

Hmm. Apparently in said system, the wife of an earl is a countess.

searches more

Ah.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl

The Norman-derived equivalent count (from Latin comes) was not introduced following the Norman Conquest of England though countess was and is used for the female title. Geoffrey Hughes writes, "It is a likely speculation that the Norman French title 'Count' was abandoned in England in favour of the Germanic 'Earl' [...] precisely because of the uncomfortable phonetic proximity to cunt".[7]

I imagine that Count Binface simply doesn't fear such proximity.

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To think we were this close to having Count Grey tea...

(nothing funny about it, just fun to imagine an alternative timeline)

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tpyoreply
lemmy.world

I'm going to take this opportunity to ask a very off topic question:

Did you give up kagi?

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Nope. But I did discover that is based in Serbia, and I felt that I couldn't recommend it based on that (e.g. if there were privacy issues, I'm not sold that the legal regimen would be strong enough for much to happen to the company).

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bitjunkiereply
lemmy.world

“Count” is not a valid title in the British peerage.

But "viscount" is? What the hell kind of scam are they running over there?

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Hmmm... it seems there might be something off about this system of "nobility".

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“Count” is not a valid title in the British peerage.

But it's absolutely one on Sigma IX!

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NateNate60reply
lemmy.world

Who is offering 4:1 odds on Count Binface? The major betting markets have him at around 8% last I checked earlier today.

Edit: This is about gambling odds not polls

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errerreply
lemmy.world

polymarket, for your depraved bets

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lemmy.zip

Please, for the love of God, do not conflate prediction markets with polls.

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Ironically, you've confused a conversation about odds with one about polls.

It's not about polls. We're talking about betting odds here. This is a gambling conversation. They said that Count Binface winning is paid 4:1, meaning an implied probability of 20%. I asked who is paying that, because it seems like that's far too low of a payout, giving Count Binface too high of an implied chance of winning.

If a candidate is being beat 4:1 in the polls, their betting odds would probably be 100:1 or higher.

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AccoSpoot1reply
lemmy.world

The majority of the general elections I have lived through (it's been a few) have been called more accurately by the bookies than the polls.

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sh.itjust.works

I'm currently wondering if I trust Polymarket with my data enough to take that bet, because he's definitely got better than 8% chance.

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lemmy.today

Not something that I've looked into, but if there are multiple futures markets with substantially diverging odds, I'd imagine that one could arbitrage that by placing opposing bets on them and provide a guaranteed win.

That being said, not familiar with how the payouts are computed and updated on them or what the market operator takes.

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NateNate60reply
lemmy.world

You can bet with crypto on there so you don't have to actually give them your information because you can just use an anonymous crypto wallet. It used to be a lot better before it was commercialised. In the past, all the markets were fee-free, and it was just your typical degenerate crypto gambling site. Now they've started charging fees on most of the markets, and they advertise everywhere so it sucks. Now they're a for-profit enterprise or something and act exactly like any other scummy casino operator.

But the payouts are done algorithmically on the blockchain so you can be sure that winning bets are indeed actually paid.

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You can use the Metamask browser extension. Polymarket runs on a token called USDC, which you can buy from Coinbase for US$1 a pop with no fee (and also sell it back for $1 for no fee).

I used to use Polymarket a lot because it was previously filled with crypto bros and MAGA idiots who would vastly overvalue stupid bets (like "Will Canada join the USA") and provide easy money. But I haven't used it for a while, so I don't know if that's the case any more.

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Prediction markets and American bookmarkers are all offering over 10:1 on Count Binface right now. 9:2 is terrible IMO

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lemmy.world

I’m sorry, not from the UK. Which one is the trash can?

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lemmy.ca

The one that has less trash in his head, obviously.

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lemmy.world

I set my hopes on Count Binface. Although if he actually wins, he will face an interesting challenge in parliament. As far I remember, hats (and probably helmets, too) are not allowed in the House.

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NateNate60reply
lemmy.world

I feel like his novelty would wear off if he actually appeared in Parliament. He'd probably be told that the costume won't be allowed and then become an abstentionist in protest.

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Don't be pessimistic. Look up Martin Sonneborn, MEP. He got voted into the EU parliament in 2015 with his purely satirical party "Die PARTEI" and is still there, because he does a comparatively good job. While still being satirical.

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Clacton has never been an important place in history. For the most part, Clacton was an irrelevant back corner that nobody cared about.

The people of Clacton have been giften an unique opportunity to change that forever. If Clacton votes for the intergalactic space lord Count Binface, the name Clacton-on-Sea will never be forgotten.

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Of course if Clapton hadn't voted for the joke candidate the first time around they wouldn't be in this position.

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Clacton would also be the first place ruled by an intergalactic bin. A small step for bins. A tremendous leap for binkind

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Boaty McBoatface was a lame attempt. Google Boaty Mcboatface Blas de Lezo, which was actually the winner.

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Asked what his appeal is going to be to the people of Clacton, the comedian replied, “I’m not Nigel Farage.”

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NateNate60reply
lemmy.world

He'll shirk back into his hole for two years and then pop back out as the leader of the new right-wing insurgent political party "Rejuvenate Britain" or something.

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FaceDeerreply
fedia.io

I read some speculation today that British election law might be interpreted to mean that if Jon Harvey wins the election as Count Binface, then he would not only be permitted to wear the Binface costume and persona while sitting in the house but he would be required to. Since it's Count Binface that the people chose and gave the mandate to, not some regular old human schlub named Jon Harvey.

Presumably there'd be nothing wrong with him taking it off when not on official business and having a secret identity that way, but for votes and whatnot he'd have to don the cape and bin.

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worhuireply
lemmy.world

Is there a nationality requirement for the position?

Count binface is not British, he is a space alien.

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lemmy.today

Why can't a space alien be British?

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That is incorrect. It is the person’s legal identity which counts. So at the result declaration, he is styled “Jonathan David Harvey, commonly known as Count Binface”

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If Hartlepool is anything to go by, he can just take it off. I think he'd wear it anyways, if not always then at least occassionally

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Why isn't the HMRC investigating and taking money from him. If I owe HMRC 50 pence they will fine me and want every penny but politicians can launder billions of pounds and not a peep from the scumbag HMRC.

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discuss.tchncs.de

do they think that Nigel’s running a cunning stunt

This is deliberate, isn't it? He wants people to think "Nigel’s a stunning cunt"? Good one

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huppakeereply
lemmy.world

The one flaw in that plan: people end up seeing that face and realize he really isn't that stunning at all.

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I think they could do some great campaigning with a little bit of real effort:

  • have people walking around campaigning for him dressed as binmen and cleaning up trash

  • some art work of binface overhead throwing farage into a bin, "clean up Clacton, bin Farage. Vote Binface"

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At least there's one candidate who isn't pretending it's not a clown show.

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Treczoksreply
lemmy.world

Can it be found somewhere outside BBC? I'd love to watch this!

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It was a five minute interview on BBC Breakfast. I believe that other outlets wrote articles about it but I haven't looked for the video anywhere else. It popped up on my YouTube feed.

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NateNate60reply
lemmy.world

Lord Buckethead and Count Binface are one and the same person, the actor had to stop using "Lord Buckethead" for IP reasons.

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br3dreply
lemmy.world

In an interview, Harvey said it was Buckethead in SpaceBalls, the film, that was the issue

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Probably because Buckethead is an excellent guitarist and knew his name would provide an unfair advantage.

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They’re different people now. Indeed, Buckethead and Binface ran against each other in 2019 in Uxbridge.

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He would if they make him pm, but that's not what this is about lucky for him

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piefed.ca

But the decision was quickly dismissed by his usual sparring partners. The UK’s main political parties – the ruling Labour Party, the right-wing Conservative Party and the centrist Liberal Democrats – all announced they would boycott the Clacton vote.

What would happen to the election if Farage was the only candidate?

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NateNate60reply
lemmy.world

Then he's guaranteed to win and will be declared elected.

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Psaldornreply
lemmy.world

And the investigation into him by the ministerial will continue

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Mereoreply
piefed.ca

Ah, so this is to prevent any distractions from the investigation. Got it.

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Pretty much, also means Farage can't claim that the people have shown they don't care about his money because he was voted in a second time.

What can happen is if Farage wins, the investigation continues and there's a very real chance he'll be suspended so another election will be called.

Each election costs about 450k of public money, so Count Binface can say that just by electing him and him doing literally nothing, he's saving the public nearly half a million quid.

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Nothing in the article suggests Farrage is going to lose this election, or even that the stunt has failed per-say. He's still getting invites to TV shows in order to regurgitate is fascist agitprop. There's no indication that the Labour government will pursue prosecution in a way that would disqualify him from high office. And Reform UK remains poised to sweep Parliament regardless of the BinFace vanity campaign

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