At least 28 killed in shoe factory in China, state media says
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I had to click the link to figure out why. It was a fire.
Ah.. I guessed something got laced with something.
What a soleless joke
Seriously, we oughta give them the boot.
Seriously shoehorning that in.
They use a lot of glue in those places. Id say its a shoe in.
No idea why but I so knew that intuitively that I thought I read the word fire after seeing your comment and go back to see I hadn't.
Most non-Americans would assume that. As opposed to a disgruntled employee with an AK.
I think plenty of us older Americans would assume that too. Hence why I mentioned the Triangle Shirtwaist. It likely has a lot of relevance unfortunately. But yeah no clue if the younger Generations are still aware of such things.
I figured their boss was making an example out of them for not meeting quota, personally
To understand the numbers, you need to see the photos of Ted Burtynsky, probably then best photographer alive right now.
https://www.edwardburtynsky.com/projects/photographs/china
My gosh. They don't even get to sit. And the neck pain I would have after 10–12 hours of this shit.
That's just regular assembly line work. They don't let you sit here either. I'm sure conditions are better here but it's a shit job that treats you like dirt no matter where you do it.
Where exactly is "here" for you?
I'm sure this is not the case in every country.
Probably USA.
Never seen a chair in an assembly line section except for an occasional desk.
Actually tbh I think the chair aspect is the least concerning. Chair vs standing is usually based on the task required, where chair is only provided as a necessity like work that requires higher precision or a certain type of dexterity.
Would probably see chairs for something like component soldering or sewing.
Otherwise they could easily fashion all those workers with a cheap plastic chair in the picture since they clearly spent the money on proper attire and health standards.
Looks like seafood processing, which I've never seen a chef or cook do sitting lol. Have seen squatting but I don't think that counts.
It's good not be sedentary for the majority of the day obviously, but it's nice to offload your feet at some intervals if you're not varying the load on the foot and legs. Standing still for hours is torture.
well our lifestyle doesn't support itself
It's a job. How is the pay? Looks like lunch is included,
hey now.
are you telling me all those lemmy.ml users were lying when they told me that China is the best? that China is better than the US? that China is a great place to work and live?
Hey! I can chime in here! I studied Chinese and business like 10 years ago (so my knowledge might be a bit outdated) so I can provide a bit of context.
A lot of workers from rural China has limited work opportunities or would earn very little. So what they do is they'd migrate to bigger cities where they'd be able to work at factories (like the one in this pic) at a higher wage and more hours. Then they send their wage home. Some things that surprised me was that in many cases the workers themselves would request long hours, to earn more, and that they'd likely only go home for the big holidays like lunar New year
It's understandable from a person-by-person scale but that doesn't make it acceptable.
Often, a group of individual workers each acting in their own personal financial interest can disadvantage workers as a whole. One person working themselves to exhaustion to provide for their family can raise expectations for all workers to do the same. That's why collective bargaining is so important for labour rights.
For a while I was hiring people in a nearby country, and despite advertising it as daytime office hours only, the majority of applicants would ask if they could work nights instead because they already had a job during the day that wouldn't give them overtime.
A new Triangle Shirtwaist dropped? I shudder to think. But knowing China, it doesn't give me confidence that it isn't something similar. Or that the death toll numbers aren't going to rise precipitously.
Bet on the local government to cover their asses. Up to central CCP whether to take action or let this slip.
Considering their record on workers rights is basically as bad as the West was when it was industrializing. I have very low confidence in anything happening. Unless someone in the party lost family or money on it.
This is after all the same government that allows companies to drive workers so hard they were literally throwing themselves from the building to escape. Eventually installing nets to stop them from going Splat. But to the best of my knowledge never correcting the conditions that made the workers want to do it.
What brand of shoe were they making?
Probably all of them