German man, 85, dies while in ICE custody in the US
cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/49156902
A German man has died while in the custody of the immigration authority ICE in the United States.
The 85-year-old died in Harlingen, Texas, where he had been in a clinic since November, ICE announced on Thursday.
He had been receiving treatment there for dementia, high blood pressure, cognitive impairment and stomach ulcers. A doctor confirmed his death on June 24.
An autopsy has been ordered to determine the cause of death.
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Anything Yahoo produces isn't news. Please stop giving that website any attention and clicks. They deserve none.
Watch Merz pretend this never happened.
This is what USA is now. It may be an anecdote, but it is an anecdote that fit the larger pattern.
USA is a rogue nation and a terrorist regime. That's what happens when you let a criminal psychopath lead your country.
Yes, and 100 million regular American terrorists still support this. Some of them travel abroad unarmed too.
I can guarantee you that the ones who travel abroad are not the ones who support this.
Not the majority.
But I've found myself surprised at seemingly educated, well-traveled, sensible US Americans suddenly dropping the most obviously, embarrassingly unreflected nationalist supremacist bullshit as purported fact. While paying lip service to supposed US-specific virtues which they completely go against in everything else they say.
Nationalism is a poison on the brain. The privilege of travelling only affords you the opportunity to see it clearly for what it is. Most people subjected to its propaganda still stick with what they were taught rather than rebuilding their whole worldview.
There's definitely a media bubble, early childhood conditioning, social pressure, and other forms of brainwashing going on that can take a lot to break through and unlearn, not to mention relearning newer, healthier patterns. And even then there might be lingering assumptions and biases that just haven't come up yet to be examined in the light of reason.
Traveling for a week or two at a time can only do so much. And then they go back to the US where people treat them like they're weird if they don't conform to the USian ignorance. A person really has to live outside the US for months or even years to fully recover from it.
Rebuilding one's whole worldview takes time and effort, and it can be really uncomfortable. Also, without strong social support with a healthier worldview to emulate, it can be really disorienting and difficult to find the way forward. Basically having to build one from scratch, whereas most people learn theirs from growing up interacting with peers and role models.
Unless you count cruise ships. And maybe the UK to some extent.
The rest are deathly afraid of YouRop and the socialists.
They won’t even travel to US cities because they’ve been constantly told that they’re crime addled hell holes (which is fine by me, more he’ll hole for us liberals to enjoy).
Yup. The ones supporting this don't even have passports, because they legitimately believe there is nothing they need to see / learn / understand anywhere else in the world. They were told the US is the best and they firmly and blindly believe it.
They never even give thought to anything outside the US other than hate and disgust (which is actually fear, ignorance and stupidity).
They barely give thought to other states in the US, which is very obvious by just being online. Americans not remembering that timezones are a thing is so damn common, and it's so weird since the US is one of the few countries that have several. They also think all laws in their state are objective and often fight others about it.
The patriotism that's used to brainwash kids in the US goes so far that it even destroys their ability to think of differences withing their own country.
Are you forgetting about the business class that has been backing trump the entire time? Or how about the embarrassed "Libertarians" (conservatives too cowardly to admit their own beliefs) that don't admit that voted for Trump but agree with his views on immigration and support the tariffs beyond all economic reason.
They all go overseas. Ken Paxton is in London right now.
Those are a small minority of travelers, and the business class likely travel with an entourage of armed guards, not "unarmed" like the other commenter said (which we can only assume implies he wants people to attack them at random).
As for the "libertarians", I don't know how many of them actually travel but if they do it's probably to tourist trap locations, which I don't consider actual travel. The average European isn't likely to encounter them in their day-to-day lives.
Haven't left the country last couple years. Do people know at this point? Or do they still hate all of us anyway?
People generally know that if you're traveling you're probably not one of them. Unless you fit the stereotype or you're the obnoxious loud american tourist or whatever.
That being said, a lot of places are dealing with their own issues right now. People are stressed about the cost of living rising while wages stagnate, jobs are scarce and so are homes. Fascism is making a resurgence in many places too. People are on edge.
Not everyone wants to talk to tourists but some people are open to it, especially if you hang out in hostels, and if you actually talk to people they'll probably be able to tell you're not a magat. There's still genuine human connection to be had.
Thx. Pretty much my expectations.
Barely 15% of Americans ever travel outside of North America.
And most of those are not okay with what's happening in the US right now.
They've been running the country for over 250 years.
Trump is old but he's not that old
😂
I'm 14 and this is deep.
You’re right the US has not been a rogue nation doing whatever it wants internationally and terrorising peoples across the globe to maintain its power since foundation.
The US was actually the defender of the free world and super duper nice to everyone since day one and only Drumpf is the bad one!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_non-interventionism
Your bar for "criminal psychopath" is so low the term is meaningless.
How is there not one person on these teams with the guts to speak up and do something. It's actually incredible that they are able to properly weed out anyone who has a conscience so reliably.
Exact same way there wasn't someone doing something when the Nazis perpetrated the Holocaust.
Same way all the other genocides happen. People usually don't like conflict and prefer to stay alive. Interfering with this stuff often ends with you losing your life and is a lot harder than shutting up and keeping your head down so long as you're not getting clubbed too.
Plus, these ICE goons are volunteering to be bastards - nobody is forcing them. That right there self selects for applicants who want to be a horrible human being. These are men and the occasional women who lack a conscience. They are straight up just morally reprehensible bad people whose disappearance would improve this planet.
Cowardice, that checks out.
Steve Bannon went around screening all the different racist militias to make sure they knew to apply for these jobs. They had years to make sure those groups were true believers before telling them to apply for the jobs.
I'm assuming. Idk what that guy was talking about when he talked to all the neonazi militias after trump won the first time.
They even specifically said you could still be accepted into ICE if you were pardoned from J6 related charges.
Probably got a signing bonus if you were charged
I'm curious to see if our esteemed Federal Chancellor, Friedrich Merz, has anything to say about this. Well, actually not, because he's more of a U.S. lobbyist than a representative of the people, and so he certainly won't level any criticism at his employers.
Thus far he hasn't shown that he's not capable of anything let alone say something against America or Israel, fucking lapdog.
I feel safer already. /s
Jesus. Everything about these facts are fucked up. Why was this man in custody in the first place? Fuck these fascist pigs.
From the article:
"Jesus. Everything about these facts are fucked up."
Hello, welcome to the whole history of the US, and much of the rest of the world throughout all of human history!
a simp...there is no treatment for dementia or cognitive impairment.
Just another reason they had no business being in a fucking concentration camp
He was actually in a care home at the time he died. Had been for a while.
No facts please, we're furious
After a full month of imprisonment in a camp run by fascist paramilitary troops, you absolute dolts.
There actually are treatments, but they're more about managing the condition or its side effects.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/dementia/symptoms-treatment.html
Bullshit. Nothing slows or lessens dementia. US has three FDA approved drugs, but none of them actually work and have failed all trials outside the US. One is already off the market.
People used to joke about Mexican clinics that could cure anything, and they would take all your remaining money, this is now US healthcare for medical tourism.
Nobody claimed that. Here, i made the important part of my link a bit more obvious:
I'm convinced this immigration and boost in ice employees is more about building a force to be ready for when the government opens up about Ai surveillance, profiling, and policing. Immigration is the beta test.
Let's all play a round of "Which List Am I On?"!
I'm on the gay and antifa list for sure.
They're also bait to justify a lockdown. It's a wonder none of them have been murdered so far. One of them eventually getting killed is a core part of Steven Miller's goals for them.
Sooo... is the EU going to apply some diplomatic pressure now, orr...
I don't remember specifics but I'm pretty sure this isn't the first European to die in ICE custody. I really need to sleep so I don't have time to look it up, but try a search, and no matter if you do I'll look it up tomorrow and add links here.
I wouldn't be surprised. There was that British woman who got shot and killed by her Texan father, and the courts let him walk. The British government did *nothing*
I looked this case up. It doesn't seem like the government could do anything useful - it's not like you can extradite him.
Yeah and he wasn't acting in the capacity of the state. Unlike ICE.
But the court was when it decided to acquit. It might have been the jury though, so that makes it harder...
An entire generation of world citizens are going to hate and mistrust the U.S. because conservatives/regressives just HAD to elect a low IQ felon rapist pedophile to own the libs (and themselves).
Just the rapists and killers and child traffickers of course
Had he been 15-20 years older he probably could have said he was a former SS soldier, and received a medal and a citizenship
Isn't that a RATM lyric? Lol It does actually remind me of Settle For Nothing
I am tired of paying for Republicans' piss-pants fear of things.
When are they announcing why this guy was in custody?
Too old to run
It's in the article.
The question for me is why he'd want to enter the USA. It sure as hell wasn't for the medical care.
Go be the one to start it then. You’re not exactly among the most proactive people on Lemmy.
"oh, it's just my opinion not my responsibility. I didn't vote for any of this, I don't live in the US, my unspecified country is a paragon of liberty and has no recent history of oppression of any people, if I were an American I would totally use all my privately owned cannons and guns to overthrow the country and then it would all be a peaceful utopia like the unspecified country that I am totally actually really from legitimately..."
I honestly can’t tell what this is implying. Are you construing my thoughts/background? If so it’s very presumptuous.
Not you, the one above.
Ah I see. Sorry, I really can’t be certain of anything here haha.
No. You can't. At least not these days.
The ONLY acceptable condition for anyone employee by ICE is execution. Not a single one should see tomorrow. Not a single one. No mercy, no forgiveness, no sentence bargaining.
If you work for ICE, you die. Simple as.
This is the way. If there is a 2nd American Civil War, we shouldn't forget the lesson of the 1st Reconstruction: don't spare the evil fuckers, they will just pass down their vile beliefs.
must have been one of those checks notes raping and murdering illegal aliens
Article by dpa international (Deutsche Presse-Agentur).
It's time to hang geogroup management, start from the top, all the way down.
You can say that you hope pedohitler the orange dies soon of a horribly painful death. We're not reddit.
When someone selfcensors themselves so much is because they are prudes or because they are afraid of being treated the same they were in their last place. Since lemmy attracts generally reddit users (because it's similar as structure) I just thought you didn't look like a prude so the alternative was you were coming from reddit and were worried some sort of automod or power-tripping mod was going to ban you for "promoting violence".
Anyway, welcome to lemmy, we have fun here, hate pedohitler and bibi the nazi and we can say it out loud without worries.
Tja