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‘I made them do it’ – Donald Trump takes credit for FIFA decision to overturn Folarin Balogun ban

++Sky News++ captured his words, as he explained: “”Yes, I asked for a review by FIFA. I spoke to a man [Infantino] who is highly respected. I’m the one who got them to do it, not Biden. Biden was asleep.”

‘I made them do it’ – Donald Trump takes credit for FIFA decision to overturn Folarin Balogun banhttps://sports.yahoo.com/articles/made-them-donald-trump-takes-152442585.htmlOpen linkView original on piefed.social
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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Conspiracy time.

Because of the 250 years of independence, the final will be rigged to be USA/England and the USA will win controversially.

Then trump will keep the trophy

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thelemmy.club

I'm already suspicious the USA have got as far as they have, yes Norway are ranked two places below, but Haaland is far far better than anyone the US can field. Chances are given the USA would have had plenty of Lantino countries in their qualifying group, they're only chance of getting into the World Cup was automatic due to hosting it. I don't know, maybe I'm being to harsh. Still it is utterly unbelievable that FIFA have reversed this.

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reddthat.com

Holy shit. As an American seeing the marketing and advertising for the world cup is sick. It's so cringy... I feel bad for all the authentic people that love the sport.

I wouldn't doubt if there's some business going on with FIFA on large corrupt scale though... American football is losing its pull of American culture... They needed a new sport to help them create submissive people.

It's about to get soulless like Hollywood and marketed pop music. ...and the Americans will froth over it like hungry zombies.

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sh.itjust.works

American football is losing popularity and we're trying to replace it with soccer? lol jesus fucking christ

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Zahille7reply
lemmy.world

And here's me, loving that our sports are becoming international. The WBC this year was fucking awesome to watch imo, and I think it's cool that American football is expanding in other parts of the world. We can only imagine what an eventual "World Football Championship" would be like.

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I agree it's cool on the surface... But you know it's going to lose authenticity exponentially.

That's why I feel for the people who are genuine about it. It's a double edged sword that probably won't care about the genuine people.

It's like every authentic thing America touches starts to oxidize, and rust.

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Zahille7reply
lemmy.world

I don't agree with that. Imo professional sports lost its authenticity years ago when they started letting advertisers and sponsors dictate the games.

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thelemmy.club

I don't think the US needs a new sport, most of the country is either brain dead from American Football, Basketball, NASCAR, Baseball. Basically anything the USA has invetend for themselves and every other country couldn't give a shit about.

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BeanGoblinreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

I wouldn't exactly throw baseball on that list. it's plenty popular in plenty of countries outside the US.

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Yeah most people in the US don’t give a shit about soccer, so I don’t get why you’d bother rigging it or other manipulation. Other than just because you are Trump and you just rug and grift and do shadey shit for no reason other than to do it.

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potpotatoreply
lemmy.world

Rugby, netball, any motorsport, cricket…turns out different regions like different things, but there are often analogues.

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You have named sports that aren't overtly native to one country. Yes of course the "US sports" have leaked to other countries, but they are the best at them and have a far greater following on TV, in league structure, in money pumped to and from. If the US turned its attention to sports away from what they host at home they could be world leaders in rugby, cricket, motorsport or netball, yet they're happy to just circle jerk themselves with what they already have. And I'm fine with that. They already smash athletics. I don't want them being good at everything.

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The host countries are usually setup to get out of their group. US has generally been good enough on their own to get to quarterfinals when they qualify, but that’s when the real tourney begins.

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You have the right of it otherwise, but one player usually can't carry a whole team on his own. Not even a phenomenon like Haaland.

Granted, they have a few other good players like Ødegaard too, but that's still not necessarily enough to beat a well-managed team and Pochettino managed a few of the biggest clubs in the world before taking the US gig.

Still, even if nothing else looks suspicious, the first withdrawn red card since 1962 at the request of the despot in charge of a host country is in itself enough to warrant an asterisk.

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It genuinely feels like group stage was scripted to get them further in the tournament because they were a host nation. The team playing last night looked very different from the group stage team.

I feel like the script was for Balogun’s red card was supposed to be the reason for them to lose; but trump wanted to insert himself into the play to look like a hero “saving Balogun” so then they had to change the script on why they would lose.

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Hackworthreply
piefed.ca

Will one of Starmer's last acts as PM be to try and get Quansah's red card overturned?

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Rugnjrreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

You know he didn't have to resign right? He literally only did it for honor. The uk political system is driven by honor. They even pressured Boris Johnson to resign. Could you imagine a US president resigning before their term was done?

The UK hasn't had a single prime minister fill out their full term since 2015

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Senalreply
programming.dev

You know he didn’t have to resign right? He literally only did it for honor.

Ah, i see the confusion now, you're talking about the "honour killings" kind of honour, the excessive toxic pride kind, like "leaving before you're kicked out to try and save face".

"I don't think i can win so i won't compete", isn't honour, it's pragmatism.

I'm not even throwing shade for it, it's a good call.

I was thinking of the idealised honour where you do the subjectively right thing, for the subjectively right reasons.

The uk political system is driven by honor.

Its driven by money/power/control, same as any modern political system.

They even pressured Boris Johnson to resign. Could you imagine a US president resigning before their term was done?

See the "leaving before you're kicked out" section from above.

The UK hasn’t had a single prime minister fill out their full term since 2015

I'm not sure how this is relevant but it is factual.

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I absolutely agree! Honor in the sense of social obligation isn't a force for good, and can often be a very toxic force. UK politics is fundamentally broken and leads to countless problems for the people living there. I'm glad I left the country, I just try to help people be clear eyed about the ways it's different to the US, because it's very different and worth understanding on its own terms.

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Nah, just the Neoliberal version of "honor", which is timidness and excessive politeness, if not less obvious collaboration.

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Never did. He only has ambition. Where was you when he was taking all these gifts?

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adarzareply
piefed.ca

france will lend a player to the americans, who then goes on to score the winner in extra time.

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Tomtitsreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Maradona had the hand of god, this will be the boot of liberty, the elbow of freedom or something else utterly wank

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At the end of the match, they will reveal the top scorer on french team had gotten honorary citizenship just before, so his goals will count towards usa. Fifa will protest at first, but then taco will call fifa boss again...

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I'm saving this, just in case... maybe you got a career as psychic ahead of you.

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If the US team managed to win, I would be fucking astounded. The team's made the top 4 exactly once when they got 3rd place in 1930. 96 whole years without placing. I know the US doesn't care about the sport much, but still shocked me a bit when I learned that.

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That might actually get people around the world to pressure their leaders to take action against the USA. From what I understand about most of the rest of the world, soccer is taken very seriously.

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God, how fucking stupid would it be if this turns out to happen?

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FaceDeerreply
fedia.io

The US will be losing and then some French players will help from the sidelines.

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k0e3reply

I bet it'll follow this script down to a T, hehe. I'll show myself out.

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lemmy.world

“We cheated and still lost” is not the flex you think it is

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Doesn't change a thing /s We did despise the corrupted USA administration already.

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The thing is, in Trump's mind that's absolutely the case. Cheating, grifting and stealing and then getting away with it is what success looks like to him - all the better, if everyone knows he cheated, and he still gets away with it.

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piefed.zip

Lol I bet the commissioner didn’t expect he’d brag about it to the public.

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ouRKaoSreply
lemmy.today

Trump forgot that he's president and still thinks he's campaigning against Biden

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Callandorreply
lemmy.zip

Isn't biden dying of cancer now. And STILL lives rent free in that orange perverted head.

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x00zreply
lemmy.world

It's just part of his cognitive bias manipulation.

He has to keep up chipping away logical reasoning and at some point people just accept it as truth.

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It works, unfortunately. For example, Trump supporters believe that cyclist actually damaged the Reflecting Pool because he was arrested. Being arrested must mean he did it, right?

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Robert Baratheon: What about Aerys Targaryen? What did the Mad King say when you stabbed him in the back? I never asked. Did he call you a traitor? Did he plead for a reprieve?

Jaime Lannister: He said the same thing he'd been saying for hours... Burn them all!

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I somehow forgot what a fucking hero Jaime was for that, and how it basically ruined the rest of his life.

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lemmy.world

That's not a parody quote, it's the actual quote in the Article, straight from the Horse's ass.

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Thanks for the clarification, one could think this came from the onion. /jk

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lemmy.ca

Biden was asleep

This is a fucking weird chirp coming from someone constantly falling asleep on camera.

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mkwtreply
lemmy.world

And, like, how the heck is it Joe Biden's job to corruptly influence FIFA officials?

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Biden derangement syndrome? He's complaining a past president didn't do anything for a current event

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I'm convinced that projection is just like the basest form of human psychology. They literally just cannot stop themselves. It's fascinating.

It's like projection and empathy are two sides of the same coin, and you end up with one or the other.

Either you are able to put yourself in other people's shoes. Or you're so inherently narcissistic (and lacking in empathy) that you subconsciously assume that everyone must be doing what you're doing.

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lemmy.nz

Man they really want the Wikipedia entry for US Men’s National Team results section to have an asterisk by the number 2026, don’t they

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They are well ahead of you:

In the round of 16, the US team was eliminated by Belgium after a 1–4 defeat. The USMNT's lackluster performance stood in contrast with its energetic and creative showings earlier in the tournament, perhaps overshadowed by controversy surrounding FIFA's stunning reversal of Folarin Balogun's suspension due to his red card in the previous match.

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feddit.org

...and the whole football world cheered as Belgium mobbed the floor with them.

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He went and did exactly what he always goes and does: he made the thing about himself.

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piefed.social

I was a great athlete and understand sports very well...

I understand penalising someone in one game but you can't penalise them for a game that hasn't happened yet.

How can anyone listen to such nonsense and be like "yeah I should vote for that guy". Every time I torture myself by watching a video of him, there's some outlandish claim of great knowledge or adeptness on a subject, immediately followed by laying out complete misunderstanding of said subject.

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Diddlydeereply
feddit.uk

Yeah, that second one was an insane sentence. You literally can, Donald. That's how the fucking suspension system works, as you well know.

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And while none of the more popular US sports have a card system with set rules, every single one of them can and does eject players and then suspend them for subsequent games.

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My god I love Mike Luckovich. He might be the best political cartoonist out there. Been enjoying his work since the 1990s.

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lemmy.ml

Was it a bad call? Absolutely. Did this orange fuckwad make it worse by sticking his dick in it for his own glorification? You bet your ass.

All the hard work US Soccer has put in, to bring the world cup to the US and to raise the quality and status of football/soccer in the country has be thoroughly crapped upon in every way possible by this dementia riddled rapist.

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lemmy.world

All the hard work US Soccer has put in, to bring the world cup to the US and to raise the quality and status of football/soccer in the country

All destroyed now, and probably only because he had some bet on the game. No other president, no matter how shitty, would have done this or even accidentally come close.

We have never been so hated by our own leaders as we are right now.

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Don't forget the ICE shitshow that cooled the desire for people to come to the games leading to stadiums and hotels half empty.

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adarzareply
piefed.ca

i bet the dipshit can't even name a rule of soccer other than the generalization "you can't touch the ball with your hands".. and even that would be stressing the brain cell a bit.

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What about throw-ins, goalies, grabbing the ball while falling to ensure a foul is called, etc?

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His references are out of control. I have to admit it's pretty sweet that da mayor is a proficient footie shitposter.

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Bloomcolereply
lemmy.world

LOL americans need to STFU about sports they don't understand

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moustachioreply
lemmy.world

Believing the World Cup is actually real and not just the global stage version of pro wrestling is incredible to me. Theres nothing to “understand”

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Bloomcolereply
lemmy.world

We lost so it's fake and we don't care about football anyway.
americans are petty sore losers, petty as always

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moustachioreply
lemmy.world

Brother all big sports are theater & scripted, not just football.

I bet you believe all those players holding their legs on the ground from being tapped begging for a card are actually hurt and not acting.

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lemmy.world

As an American Tottenham fan I am over the moon with how Poch has transformed Team USA and I was so ready to watch them beat Belgium without one of their best players.

Now it just looks stupid, like no one believes they could do it without this one guy. On top of the optics of it now Belgium has an extra reason to fight, it will absolutly light a fire under them. Was it a red card? No, it should have been a yellow but that's the game. You put the chip on your shoulder and go out there and fuck shit up. Now Belgium has the chip.

Just another example of the whining bitch culture the US has become under trump, the biggest thin skinned bitch of them all.

Norway is on form and are going to give England a great run and France are going to be hard to beat. People have been dogging this WC but honestly its been entertaining. The officiating has been half trash but the games have mostly been lit and the upsets have been great.

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aceslipreply
lemmy.zip

I agree with. I just want to say you’re delusional to think the US could beat Belgium with or without this player.

Edit - I see the Americunts are voting with their feelings again

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We will see.

Edit: welp, they looked like shit. Belgium played better than they have all tournament. Belgium came out with the chip square on their shoulder and USA shit the bed. I was wrong, oh well.

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lemmy.ml

It was a red. It was dangerous and could have broken his ankle, even if he didn't intend it.

Belgium are crap, but would have comfortably beaten USA.

No one believes you can do it without that one guy before this. He's been carrying you.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

They shouldn't have fucked with the ruling at all, but lmao at "dangerous"

It could only possibly be considered dangerous if you thought he intentionally stepped on Muharemović's ankle. Straight reds are typically reserved for aggressive plays that are either clearly malicious or willfully reckless.

Balogun was playing the ball without looking where he was stepping - at worst it should have been a yellow. Careless? Definitely. Dangerous? Lmao, I guess taking a reaching step is dangerous now

But thats really not the problem anymore - the league overriding the decision reaks of corruption and does a disservice to everyone involved, including the USA team.

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lemmy.ml

You obviously don't know enough about "soccer". You been listening to your presidents definitions?

A red can be given for serious foul play.

"Serious foul play is defined as "a tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality.""

It fits the definition. Even with FIFA suspended the sentence they didn't overturn it.

Quansah got a red card for England despite playing for and winning the ball. Intent is not the key ingredient of a red card.

Either way, Belgium's hammered the USA even with Balogun. Tis a lol.

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anarchiddyreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Either way, Belgium's hammered the USA even with Balogun. Tis a lol.

No question - they shouldn't have even made it that far

A red can be given for serious foul play.

The ref is intentionally given leeway to make whatever calls necessary to keep control over the game (which is why the reversal is so damaging to the tournament broadly). He had every right to send Balogun off, I just dont think it's was a good one.

Quansah got a red card for England despite playing for and winning the ball

A bunch of reasons why this comparison is bullshit:

  • Quansah went into a sliding tackle against a player in control of the play, not after a 50/50 challenge
  • despite there not being intent, sliding tackles are held to higher scrutiny because they're dangerous even when done correctly
  • The tackle was unnecessarily aggressive. Quansah could have stayed on his feet and defended without risking a tackle

You obviously don't know enough about "soccer". You been listening to your presidents definitions?

I love how catty this is

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lemmy.ml

A ref is given leeway, they choose whether to exercise or not and he didn't provide any leeway or special favour. He made a call and refs decision stands.

It still amazes me that you don't see how dangerous Balogun's challenge was. Did you not see the dude's ankle? Could have got broken. Quansah didn't even touch the guy with studs and won the ball. It was still a red. Both without intent, both deemed dangerous. One almost snapped a players ankle.

Yes, that last bit was catty, but the weird tribal defending of it it with weird justifications seemed to fit in with how Trumpy was arguing. Not necessarily within the rules of the game or historical precedents.

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It still amazes me that you don’t see how dangerous Balogun’s challenge was. Did you not see the dude’s ankle? Could have got broken

I don't think we're using 'dangerous' in the same way here. I'm saying there is no reasonable expectation that Balogun's play could have resulted in a serious injury, regardless of what injury almost did occur. Just because Muharemovic's ankle almost did get broken, doesn't mean that was due to any risky, aggressive, or malicious move made by Balogun to begin with. That the foul didn't even initially merit a yellowcard at the time points to the same conclusion.

When I was taught to be a referee (granted, that was 15 years ago), they urged us not to issue red cards unless the play itself was uniquely dangerous, where that if another player committed the same foul there would be the same high risk of injury. The two other remedies for keeping this type of play in-check are more reasonable and less likely to cause chaotic discontent from the bench, and sending the player off doesn't make anyone else on the field any safer.

Your job as referee isn't to doll out justice or retribution for harm committed on the field, it's to keep the players safe and the game fair to the extent reasonable.

Quansah didn’t even touch the guy with studs and won the ball.

That's not the point - he made a needlessly aggressive tackle against an attacker that wasn't an immediate threat on goal, and hit Gallardo midway up the shin with studs up. If someone else on the field made a similarly needless and dangerous tackle, the risk of serious injury would be just as high. It could have just as easily been a yellow card, but what made the tackle worse was that it was done without any apparent strategic advantage over staying on his feet, which made it seem like he did it in part because there was a risk of harm.

If the ref didn't take action, it was likely that the two would continue escalating their challenges until someone did get injured

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lemmy.world

Yeah kinda makes me want us to lose

Ive gotten all the upsets I tuned in for so ill be sure to watch

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lemmy.world

I wanna see the US lose so the orange kid-fucker loses his goddamn mind, and go off on dementia rants again...immediately after his vanity state fair was a collosal failure

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Furbagreply
pawb.social

Over the past few weeks I was thinking kind of the same thing. On one hand, I like watching world cup soccer and seeing the US men's team do well for the first time in a long time is really great and I would be juiced to see them make it to the final.

On the other hand, it had to happen while we have one of the worst pieces of shit to ever occupy the white house, and he would somehow make their historic achievement about himself in some way and taint it forever, so I kind of want them to lose before that happens.

Either way it's a win-win. I'll be watching their games on a pirate stream so FIFA can't earn any money off me taking a casual interest in the games this year.

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lemmy.ml

There is no way on God's green earth are USA making it to the final without every ref being bought up. Even then, Mbappe and France will put 3 or 4 past USA even with a crooked ref. He'd have to disallow all of them and it he completely obvious.

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Yeah I mean you're probably right. I don't know much about the game to be able to tell who the clear favorites are. It just seems to be my luck that if I root against something the universe has a way of twisting that energy against me.

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I... really... I have no clue how anyone can listen to that, read that, or whatever, and not instantly realize that guy is an absolute moron. What the fuck?

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krashmoreply
lemmy.world

I think everyone knows that. Even his supporters know he's an ass. They don't like saying that explicitly so they say stuff like "he just doesn't have a filter" or "he doesn't care about being pc" but that's just window dressing. They like that he's dumb. I can only speculate as to why but my experience says it's true all the same.

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Possible that I really don't understand the supporters. I don't want to have someone leading anything, being that dumb.

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We had a good thing, you stupid son of a bitch

Anyone who knew someone like Trump would ruin a well-oiled grift machine.

This sorry excuse for a human being has less planning skills than a pool of piranhas.

He could have called Infantino, have the suspension reversed and brushed away tbe journalist's question with a joke, but he's even worse than Berlusconi.

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Well the ownership class of the US is a bunch of Karens. We know this.

And we know FIFA is corrupt AF, even more than the NFL.

What's vulgar about it now is that it's done without a lick of subtlety or tact. The corruption is out in the open. They're doing the Qu'ils mangent de la brioche more plainly and more often than was ever done in France.

( Technical history fact: Marie Antoinette never said it, but the rumor was viciously spread and sped her way to the guillotine. The historic queen was classically trained and actually had tact. The French aristocracy, however, did not.)

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lemmy.world

But did they tell him that balogun not only is black, but got the citizenship by ius soli, two things he hate and wants to remove?

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But he's not poor, which makes all the difference in the world. In America we especially hate poor immigrants

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FIFA’s history with corrupted boss men are legendary but egghead Infantino takes the cake.

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Can Donal Trump die of old age already? We're all just waiting for a cheeseburger to do him in. Seems like ghouls live to be a hundred. There's some law of physics going on here, violating the space time continuum by wishing ill of them.

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Yeah let's just bandy about slurs, that's a surefire way to prove you're morally superior to someone

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