I mean, take your pick. This is a place where a lot of us…

• are leftists who disagree with extractive, anti-human economic systems
• left Reddit because they insisted on controlling how people could connect to each others ideas
• like the open collaboration of open source, which is getting wrecked by AI
• like open access communities like wikipedia, which are also getting undermined by AI
• dislike copyright law, which is being selectively ignored here because the people violating it are rich (on paper)
• are marginalized people, who tend to be disproportionately effected by AI decision-making

Ai:

• ruins the planet by polution
• is used to influence political discourse, erase facts and history.
• is a tool brought to you by people who at the very least don't want the masses to be free (look up palantir owner)
• is being pushed with the end goals to have a tool of mass surveillance and control.
• makes people abandon their ability to think critically (or in general really)
• is used to violate copyrights by it's very design. If you think artists have been undervalued so far just you wait. They don't want creative people anymore.

Take your pick, it's war and you're in it.

Platforms themselves are self-selecting. I'm speaking for myself here. I am on Lemmy because I dislike the power that big tech has gotten to control content, policy, news, and global perceptions. As such, I self host and use federated technologies where possible. The vast majority of AI tools are controlled by the same centrally controlled big tech companies that I'm here to avoid. There are self-hosted AI tools or there, but basically every AI tool was trained using scraped data, and, for instance, my Searx-ng instance was flooded by so many bots that I had to make it harder to use for myself just to keep the bots out. My blog? Constantly scraped, killing my bandwidth. A lot of foss projects used to have bug bounty programs and accepted code from any contributor to wander in, but are now closing off due to AI slop code contributions. So, the type of person you'll find here probably hates AI if they're like me. Also, I work in tech and have to bite my tongue every time a co-worker "helpfully" sends me a Copilot Slop answer to a question when I was asking for a judgment call or an opinion.

Someone else can give a more comprehensive answer, but here are a couple bullet points:

• Models trained by violating copyright
• AI data centers using tons of water and power, driving up costs for local residents
• AI data center noise pollution
• "Slop" results (uncanny valley pictures, incorrect answers given confidently, etc)
• Companies using AI as an excuse for anti-worker actions (notably massive layoffs)
• Concern over how much of the largest companies valuation is tied to AI hype (because it affects everyone's retirement accounts)

Because I and some associates spend years traveling, collecting , and documenting some very specific information on an uncommon family of animals, their care in aquaria, and ecological curiosities. We had a website which hosted all the documented info, a small but active community of people with this niche interest. A few minor ads and affiliate links kept the site running, and allowed our few naturalists to go to more places and document rarer species. Now LLMs have stolen all our content and google shows all of our information in its AI searches as if it owns it and never links the information to the community that lovingly curated it. Our website had to be taken offline forever because all our traffic is just scrapers.

So please, tell me how AI stealing everything we worked hard on for years and selling it to you is considered a good thing?

Because we’re mostly not bots.

Im an AI engineer and even I hate AI. When I say AI, I mean LLMs specifically. It definitely has its use cases. LLMs are pretty good at parsing unstructured data, and generating boilerplate code, but that's about it. Every other use case is a combination of buzzword bingo and slop generation.

AI, uses a tremendous amount of energy, produces an ungodly amount of heat and noise, and pollutes potable drinking water. The overreliance on LLMs for everything is lazy at best and sloppy at worst. LLMs are being applied in scenarios where I could have built a deep learning model that would fit comfortably on a laptop from 2018, and doing a worse job at predictions at that.

Ignoring the fact that they were trained on a ton of copyrighted data, which was labeled for dollars a day by humans in poorer countries, and regularly gets basic information wrong. Yeah, it fucking sucks. And the only people who stand to benefit from it are about a half dozen tech companies who are taking contracts with the US government to track citizens both online and IRL.

I can’t answer for anyone else but I hate it because it makes us stupider, it degrades human knowledge as a whole, it contributes to climate change and is helping to dissolve culture by isolating us into fewer and fewer shared spaces

i don't particularly enjoy having to constantly question what's real and what isn't anymore.

i don't particularly enjoy having humanity's well of information undermined by disinformation factories.

i don't particularly enjoy every space i had to express myself creatively and experience others expressing themselves creatively being drowned out in mass-produced incoherent slop that i cannot possibly connect with.

i don't particularly enjoy that climate change has now been rapidly accelerated for the sake of a tool that's completely unreliable at doing anything it's marketed to do and has done irreversible damage to the very fabric of our society.

do you?

I really don't understand how people can be so blinded by hopium that they cannot see the blindingly obvious consequences of allowing this insane tech to co-opt our planet, at the behest of the most powerful and evil people to ever live.

There may be use cases for this tech but it not worth it to sacrifice the entirety of our natural world to be ground up and processed to feed this behemoth. It is purely wishful thinking that this will solve everything and they are willing to pay ANYTHING to try it. They are gambling with the planet and it's like 2% chance they win, otherwise life dies.

We were told 15 years ago, that we had a decade to change course to prevent CATASTROPHIC heating of the planet and degradation of the environment. Instead of doing really anything about that, we have exponentially increased out energy needs and fuel/water usage. Now with ai, we are doing it all over again in the span of a few years. Please explain with mathematics, how we get out of this trap of thermodynamics and not all die from heat? How does ai save us? Does it get us closer in any way? Or is it so that the elites can goon a little harder and try to fill the void inside them with yet more money?

Game communities I used to love browsing have become inundated with low-effort, vibe-coded crapware. It's now 20 times harder to find anything good. Hardware is 20 times more expensive. My insurance company is using AI to deny me medical help. A skill I spent 25 years developing suddenly is full of morons who think they know as much as I do because they can have Claude vomit out something resembling software.

There is A LOT to hate.

Techbros ruin everything.

I have no problem with AI use for science, health, and uplifting humanity like figuring out optimal ways of doing things, minimizing waste.

Currently, it's just another disingenuous ploy to make rich people even richer forcing it on everyone at an expense of climate and human livelihoods.

And finally, are consumer AI really "intelligent" like its touted or is it marketing lies for making the lines go up?

Because we are a bunch of people that tend to at least try to keep ourselves informed.

There's more negative consequences of AI than there are positive, at least from my perspective.

There's a variety of reasons, but the biggest is that Lemmy as a whole is FAR more class-conscious than the average populace, or even that average internet user, and generative AI has been developed by the wealthy and powerful, as a tool to oppress everyone else.

I don’t “hate” it universally. I see its positives and how it can make certain things easier. My own negative feelings towards it just outweigh the positives at the moment.

If they can figure it out where:

• AI isn’t being developed for autonomous armed military combat
• isn’t sucking up heinous amounts of power and water, especially in places that can’t support it.
• isn’t readily available to the criminal masses to do great harm with.
• isn’t being completely untruthful about the harm it is doing.
• isn’t being forced down the throats of everyone in the business world.
• Isn’t used by, from, around, or even remotely involving children.

The main problems aren’t with the technology, but with governments slow response to properly regulate it and protect society. I guess.

I use it now and then to spot bugs in my code and it is super handy for that. Coming up with code all by itself can be wonky. If non-programmer vibe coding becomes the norm, we are all going back to paper.

Ask yourself, what value does it add?

I like computers and now can't easily afford to do the projects I'm interested in. I get very little value from AI and it destroyed my hobby. It also is a massive bubble that will hurt the majority of the world once it pops. It's dumb.

Because it’s a technology wielded by the most powerful to harm the rest of us.

Because it is a massive financial scam built on a lame cult.

Mostly because it was trained on everyone's stolen data but then the elite are gatekeeping it. Combined with mass theft of public funds in order to fund their AI and the billionaires end goal to create a dystopian tech overlord society.

Also when the AI hallucinates it's extremely annoying.

Me, personally, a couple of reasons:

Without wanting to sound like a pretentious twat I think art made without a soul is the antithesis of art.

People ask dumb questions that a quick web search would answer.

The blurring between what is real and what isn’t.

Capitalism suggesting that there might only be two or three “non-human entities” controlling the entire internet soon.

The fear of another economic bubble.

It making people stupider.

The fokken poes that is an anagram of my user name being involved. Plus all the other bros too.

Fear of something that has the power to potentially go beyond thought.

The absolute ease of facilitating surveillance.

Terminator franchise

Etc

I detest that a pretty limited and inefficient technology became a functional deity. Whatever cost is paid upfront to serve it is just, whatever resource it needs is reserved, whatever it produces should be spread uncritically low and high. Like all copium for the masses, it becomes a prosthetic device people become dependent on in their lives, and whatever I choose it or not, it becomes projected onto me too, making the products and aftermath of GenAI boom a part of my daily live and a tax I now pay.

From a power/economics perspective, it's a cover for the biggest companies and most punchable CEOs to take our shared knowledge, skills and means of compute from us and sell them back to us as a subscription, while pissing in the community well they just eroded.

As a consumer I play around with local machine learning-based tech to OCR pages, create transcripts, extrapolate images and frames in video. I haven't found a usecase for rented GenAI in my workflow but I usually don't cringe at people using it as long as they don't take pride in using it (and it happens a lot, oooff). I despise rich companies and people masturbating around the topic, firing people in droves, enshitifying everyithing and taking ever more power.

Someone asked this 2 days ago so I'll just paste what I wrote there.

It's being pushed into situations where having a black box of probability is not what you want. Support bots as an example, you want the same outcome for the same problem. Not a different outcome because someone didn't put a question mark.
You don't want the bot being able to hijack an account because it was asked in the specific way. See Facebook support bot.
https://cybersecuritynews.com/metas-ai-support-bot-instagram/

You don't want a chat bot to tell airline customers they can do something when the airline has a FAQ section specifically saying no you can't.
See Air Canada support bot.
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20240222-air-canada-chatbot-misinformation-what-travellers-should-know

You don't want AI bots hallucinating court cases to justify a case. Many news articles on this.

It's used as a workforce reduction mask.
Businesses are using AI rollouts to lower the number of front line employees. Only for the tool to fail.
See Oracle firing 21,000 people to boost ai numbers.
https://www.theregister.com/databases/2026/06/23/21000-oracle-jobs-vanish-amid-big-reds-big-bets-on-ai/5260086

It's oversold:
When Gardner says only 30% of AI deployments work as sold after asking over 700 IT executives. Why are people still treating it as anything but a broken tool?
https://www.theregister.com/software/2026/04/07/only-28-of-ai-infrastructure-projects-fully-pay-off/5221652

For a black box of probability it is terrible at maths. There has been instances of AIs failing high school math tests.
https://phys.org/news/2026-02-ai-struggle-math-problems.html

edit: sources as I grab them on mobile.

A question to the OP: After reading all of these comments, varying from emotional reaction to well reasoned assessment, all valid whether positive or negative, has this experiment helped you answer your question or changed your views on AI at all in retrospect? There's nothing I can add that hasn't already been said in one way or another by someone else, but I'm cruious if this is just a bait thread or you're actually posing this question in good faith with a mind open to change.. If it's the latter I want to know your nuanced opinion.

Under capitalism, LLMs are used purely for the benefits of the capitalist class, spying on all of the working classes and enabling immense repressions. It isn't a tool without any and all merit, but under capitalism it will always be used against our best interests.

Why are there so many people on Lemmy asking this same question over and over again. This has got to get over ten now in the last week.

Lots of good answers, but I'll throw another in: pollution of the Internet with slop. I'll search for e.g. what good flashlights with 'n' features are and there will be hundreds of near-identical listicles that are clearly hallucinated. I'll try to look at a local restaurant's menu and it will bring me to a fabricated webpage with ai generated images of food (with Wonder brand Hont Doug bundts yesterday!) and a menu that is very obviously factually incorrectly.

There have always been low-effort fake listicles and bad information, but it used to be easy to avoid the couple links per search or to refine the search to be specific enough to rule them out. Now I'm not convinced there aren't websites that generate poor quality content on the fly based on whatever I just searched.

The heads of the AI companies have been saying how many jobs their products will replace.

If you tell most people that there was an exciting new technology that would replace them at their company and every other company and make their experience and qualifications obsolete I'm guessing most people wouldn't be very happy about that.

First, you made that classic blunder. You wrote "AI" without defining it, as if it was meaningful. We always see people do bait-and-switch arguments surrounding this topic. Always. So, if you want a meaningful answer, you need to actually provide a definition...

Are you asking why people hate ChatGPT? If so, you should ask that.

Second, you made a mistake. You think people hate AI when the hate is reserved for the assholes getting rich by fucking us all over as they destroy our communities, clean water, and affordable electricity. Remember, it's the people who do horrible things who need to be stopped.

I don't hate AI, I hate the overuse of AI in places where it's not suited for. I hate the as-a-service model every Western AI vendor enforces. I hate the people seeing AI as a get rich quick scheme and not as a technology to be leveraged intelligently and meaningfully.

You do realize that the vast majority of people hate LLMs right? They are power, water resource hungry worthless things that have yet to prove any worth to the human race.

I'm curious why this question gets asked on lemme so often.

This is not a direct answer to your question.

I've heard 2 really great takes about LLMs & GenAI, that have stayed with me - though I don't have the best wording for them anymore.

1. As AI is trained on previously created data, it fundamentally looks backwards. Human creativity creates new things and inherently looks to the future.

2. AI is trained on the vast corpus of human works and synthesizes that info into a median response. You will never get exciting and bold insights, just bland and inoffensive responses.

It's an exploitation tool with no benefit to actual people.

Put the AI critique aside for a moment. Many people on lemmy dont like algorithms managing their feed. There's probably a big overlap between people who are pervasively sensitive to dark algorithms and people who perceive AI as a dark algorithm parlor trick .

I don't hate AI, I hate how much it's shoved down my throat every day. If it was used in appropriate use cases and not injected into everything because profits then I wouldn't care so much.

Nuclear power can make energy.

Nuclear power can eradicate the planet and leave areas uninhabitable for untold years, and those it doesn't vaporize are altered for the rest of their lives. And sometimes they aren't aware until years after.

AI has good uses when applied carefully, such as in medical research.

AI is also being used as a reason to replace workers, it consumes massive amounts of energy, it creates sound and infrasound destroying environments around it, it consumes massive quantities of drinking water from surrounding areas, and is ultimately spurring on a society of wealthy ruling class who view humans as cattle, out in the open, and no one is stopping them.

Is it any wonder why people hate these things? But yes, a tool is a tool. It's the people using it that hate should be properly directed towards. Unfortunately, those same ruling class epstein elites dismantled education over decades, so it's harder for people in this day and age to think dialectically. It's easier to think in black and white, in extremes, just like media would have you believe, just as the culture wars have taught us for decades.

AI is great. AI under capitalism is awful.

I don’t hate ‘AI’, I don’t acknowledge it exists.

None of the use cases of LLMs I’ve observed can in any way be legitimately argued to be a form of intelligence, and anyone arguing otherwise is betraying their absence of said trait.

LLMs are explosively imprecise, statistically luke-warm, grey goo extrusion spinsters, which is why all the logos for ‘AI’ companies are variations of arseholes.

It is the dot com bubble all over again, we all know the internet completely transformed the world but during that hyperphase anything with .com was getting money tossed at it.

We are in the same phase with AI. It will likely completely transform tech and medicine and a number of other fields. However 90% of what is being pushed right now is not good uses for it. They are masking the real costs for it. We are likely going to end up with an oversupply of datacenters just like all the unused dark fibre we had in the .com age. It will eventually transform into more useful things but "most" not "all" of it is hype right now.

It's a hammer being sold as a replacement for builders. I don't hate AI, rather than all of stuff that's called "AI" these days is being sold as something more than it is.

Just listen to Jensen, the token salesman, of Nvidias fame.

If that $500,000 engineer did not consume at least $250,000 worth of tokens, I am going to be deeply alarmed

This is what I hate. The mad greed of these companies; the blatant disregard of everyone that these CEOs are displaying; the blind rush without a thought about consequences. "AI" is just the latest fad that got ruined by good old capitalism.

Assuming you're talking about generative AI and most (or all?) chatbots - the only people who 'like' it are the rich, the elderly, the tech illiterate, and the right-wing. None of these has any presence on Lemmy. Or on reddit, for that matter. AI sentiment is pretty much the same across the two platforms, from what I've seen.

The only places where I've seen any kind of unironic pro-AI content is Facebook and LinkedIn. So basically platforms filled with the aforementioned groups.

I dont hate AI, I hate the people who are pushing it on us. I hate thier ultimate goal.

Because the endgame of the way we are developing the technology is not Star Trek but I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream.

It's an existential threat, a Great Filter.

There are some basic responsibilities they need to meet like not violating copyright and licensing on source material creating a double standard where corp slop can pirate without charges but individuals can't and building and running data centers that aren't in conflict with the community they are running in. They also should have warnings about anthropomorphizing language models that don't think or reason but I'd settle for the first two to start.

As usual it's not the technology that's the problem, it's the dumbass way it's implemented in a profit motive

Pro:

• It's good at explaining things. You have a question about coding, geography, or most anything you could answer with a thorough internet search and enough time to sift through the results, it'll give you an answer immediately that's tailored specifically to your question.

Con:

• Answers are sometimes subtly wrong in a way that's hard to pick out unless you already know the answer or are already an expert. It's like having a really smart uncle who likes to prank you every few times he talks to you.

Pro:

• It can generate any text you ask for. A love letter to your girlfriend, an application for a job, an article to post on the internet. Instead of spending hours thinking about something, learning something, and sharing your opinion on it, it can just give you polished text that makes it look like you have a smart take and an opinion.

Con:

• People who use it for this are getting dumber. It's growing near impossible to teach kids in school because they can just Chat GPT a paper on the Great Gatsby in seconds. All they end up learning is how to ask an LLM to give them an opinion. This is also producing a tidal wave of slop in every outlet that used to depend on human creativity. Open source coding, books, news, online articles, and many other arenas used to take effort to generate something, and there are systems, businesses, and processes built on the assumption that a human is generating content. Since that's no longer true these systems are breaking down.

Another Con:

• It's fucking up the economy, the job market, consuming absurd amounts of energy, and sucking up the production of computer components.

Pro:

• It allows anybody to generate art in almost any style with very little effort. You can produce the picture you want in the style you like in moments.

Con:

• The reason it can do this is the AI companies stole and used art generated by real people in the training data for their LLMs. So now if you want a cartoon in the style of your favorite artist you don't even have to ask them to make something for you. You just ask an LLM. Obviously, this is killing the goose that laid the golden egg. Business for artists dwindles and they struggle more and more to live. The end state of that is all art is generated by LLMs and nothing new is ever created.

I could go on, but in short the drawbacks greatly outweigh the advantages. Yes, you can get quick answers to questions, but the net outcome on people and society is massive damage.

I'm on Lemmy because I'm anti capitalist and generally support progressive policies such as circular economic practices and sustainability. I'm against AI because it goes against everything I mentioned. The gains aren't worth the cost.

I don't hate AI. I use AI. I criticize AI, because it's a tool and it's being misused.

I criticize how people and specially companies use AI....

Capitalism

Because it's built on the creative collective works of everything that's ever been put on the Internet with no attribution or compensation for people who's authored works were stolen. Maybe that's why?

Because it's not really ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. It's basically fast computing. And stealing data from other websites.

Because it sucks ass, fucking duh

Using ai to make it solve complex problems, analyse things and summarise objective outcomes is fantastic.

Unfortunately making it slop out is easier and TikTok-brained people are keen on making it poop slop. That’s why the consumer level ai makes me bit grossed out as well.

Its a tool. Great tool. Like photoshop and excel. But it can be also abused to steal, manipulate and destroy what have been built so far by humanity in seconds.

And the second one just makes it even worse this invention is made by Americans so “it has to be profitable” cancer all over it. That’s why it sucks now. Its capitalism driven not humanity. Even open ai changed to for profit “for undisclosed reasons”. The thing doesn’t work now unless you throw lots of bucks on it.

Its going to be better and way more useful at some point. But not anytime near until America’s upcoming economical crash. American capitalism is one of the worst thing happened to human kind and until its controlled nothing ever coming out from country is going to be beneficial to human kind. That’s why it sucks big time now.

The reasons why so many people hate it. Are lengthy.

A big one is we see jobs already being eliminated. And people like to live in this fantasyland that oh there’ll be new jobs created. But anybody who has studied history, realizes that that’s not going to happen in this case.

For example, when we switched from horse and buggy to motorized vehicles,. The people built the buggies they could be cross trained to build the vehicles. Jobs were created.

When we switched from the mechanical typewriter to the electronic typewriter that was easy cross train. When we moved away from the electronic typewriter to a computer, there were jobs created.

Here’s the problem that we run into. Let’s just look at accounting. Many jobs in the accounting field can be done by a properly trained AI system. Most data entry jobs can be done by AI. Many programming jobs are being handed off to AI. You were seeing this across all industries. Whereare the jobs going to be actually created at?

There are some data entry jobs to program AI. But those are minimum wage jobs at best.

As AI becomes better and better, they will be able to take more and more jobs.

We are already seeing AI being used to create music. There goes a lot of musicians jobs. There a goes a lot of songwriting jobs.

This is becoming a very large problem. Because you will still have the same number of people looking for work, but you’ll have less jobs. That means the pay for said jobs will drop drastically. Supply and demand.

The people who truly believe there will be magically new jobs created as far as I’m concerned or absolutely delusional.

Another big problem is it limits human interaction. I know there’s a lot of people that don’t want to talk to anybody, but here’s the reality. Humans are social creatures. As we become More and more isolated, It becomes harder for us to sympathize and empathize with other people. That makes it easier to create divisions between people. Trust me, the governments will absolutely use that to their benefit.

Because we’d rather have national forests, clean water, job opportunities, a sustainable future and liberty than live in morodor with the eye of Sauron staring at us all the time

Because it's lame, and sucks shit

I'm not completely against it. I do recognise its threats to privacy, the planet, and intellect though. The average person trusts it too much.

Personally, I do not use it that much. I do however use it to help with research. I find being able to ask a question quite useful as a jumping off point for further research. I do not rely on it to answer correctly, simply to aid in pointing me in the right direction. Then I go off and do more specific research.

I have been moving from windows 10 to linux mint recently, it was quite useful in aiding with this at times. Not all the time, just at the right times. If there were a particular issue I was struggling with it could help point me in the right direction, though I would not trust it to simply spit out the right advise and commands to type to fix an issue without researching exactly what those commands did, how that would potentially help fix the issue and how to revert if it messed something up. I have seen many examples where the advise it gave was terrible and potentially destructive because I researched the advise it gave, had I of not it would have really messed things up. It must be used responsibly.

People are all to quick to talk into their phones, get a response and trust it to be all knowing. Their queries are forever recorded and logged to their personal identity without and option to opt out. I use privacy orientated search engines with ai functionality such as duckduckgo and ecosia. Ecosia makes it very easy to verify the sources of information given from their ai, also they put in efforts to be as green as possible. Very respectable.

So no, I am not against ai. I am against the usual way in which the average person uses it and the way the majority of companies are using it to exploit people and the planet to turn a profit.

People here are privy to the many downsides of rapid AI adoption vs Facebook grandmas who use it to make memes and identify weird bugs in their house.

I like humans and human creativity and human intelligence and I think everyone using a technology that actively makes you bad at those things while spitting out crappy jumbled regurgitations of someone else's work is not a good thing.

Been around long enough to know that we are being sold on a lie that's real purpose is extracting wealth at the fastest rate possible from the lower 99% while providing unknown risks and low likelihood of benefits to most of the population. The only "AI" that currently works well is a very fast database searcher. It is better than a human at that task but requires humans to create the database and all the information in it first in order for it to work. The only "AI" that seems to be possibly "thinking" for itself is hopeless, wrong, and/or very destructive.

AI is very harmful to the environment, it destroys communities because of data centers, it killed the price of gaming and consumer computing, and it's being used to layoff a shit ton of people.

I use AI daily for my job because it's required, and I do use it outside of work too, but it's too powerful, too dangerous, and I wish it didn't exist. The way companies abuse it in the name of profit is too damaging for our world.

It's because AI in the form of LLMs is a piece of SHIT BS lies generator FUCKING GODDAMN copyright theft! SHITTY ASS LIAR CLANKER dumb bot

When people say "AI," I assume they are talking about the large corporate Neural Networks that get branded as "AI" for marketing purposes.

I hate these because they're a grift. They're funded and maintained by a handful of ultra-rich idiots who saw no value in learning social sciences nor the humanities, and thus have failed to learn from history. The people pushing for mass adoption believe in a variety of unscientific pseudo-religious conspiracy beliefs about AI gods and devils leading humanity.

I hate that the cost of these cults are being foisted onto the rest of society by way of government and corporate contracts.

I hate that mass media is rapidly degrading in quality in order to justify the purchase of said contracts.

I hate that the people making important decisions that affect my life and well-being — doctors, the people who develop my software, my government representatives, news reporters, lawyers — are not just willing, but actively excited at the prospect of turning off their brains and letting black boxes controlled by opaque corporations make the decisions for them.

I hate that despite 3+ years of hype and 10+ years of public access, the only people who have demonstrably benefitted from it are Nvidia, scammers, and people who don't want to use their brain.

But mostly, and this is the clincher, I hate that we are literally destroying the earth to run these machines. Even if every other problem disappeared overnight, this should be an argument killer. We only get one home, and we are setting fire to it. I don't care if it improves the lives of millions of humans, because it is hastening the death of hundreds of billions of lifeforms.

I hate that people ignore this or conveniently forget it or are just apathetic about it. I hate that this argument just carries little to no weight for most fence-sitters. I hate that people treat feeling emotional about the destruction of our only home as being irrational. I hate ecoterrorism being excused by marketing babble and shitty faux-skeptical wishy-washiness.

This whole thread is a great honeypot for my ‘AI Techbro’ user tag!

I can agree with most of the points in the thread. Especially the forced use of AI where it makes no sense.

I'm a software engineer going on my second decade in developing media streaming technologies.

LLMs are useful in my day-to-day work. They speed up development a lot, but I do realise that I am getting disassociated with my codebase. I know that the individual commits are on a level that I would've written myself, often even better. But I don't know the codebase as intimately as if I actually wrote it myself. The cognitive load of reviewing two other people's AI-assisted code is also very taxing.

But, we can hate it as much as we want. Pandora is out of her box, and it's better to get ahead with it than be left behind.

I wonder why? 🤔🤔🤔

mostly ram prices, and shittify every service and program and search engine.

Most commercial models were trained without permission via stolen artwork, copyrighted materials, etc...

i can't speak for everyone, but a lot of people are outraged that they have been replaced or soon will be. Millions of people will be unemployed. This is bad, because we are a consumer-based economy, and we're losing even more consumers.

After decades of low pay for most workers, this is the very last thing we need.

I think most of the hate is because of it being touted as better than humans and shoved down everyone’s throats.

As for AI itself , it’s just a tool like any other. Use it wisely.

I don't even really care about AI art so much as we're just accelerating full retard into literal extinction event AGI at top speed with pretty much no regard for safety.

This is ending the human race now, in realtime and it's pretty much too late to stop.

for every reason.

I actually think the technology is interesting but it's being used by evil people to do evil things.

If it was trained on ethically source data and that just used to generate smeary anime girls and shit it would be a lot less objectionable.

Because it's trendy and it's a new thing people can feel outraged about together. And when you really drill down into the arguments, the problem is invariably with the way technology is used under capitalism rather than technology itself.

'cause i'm a hater and being a hater RULES have you tried it? much better than prompting a hundred times for something that looks or reads likes shit

There's a lot of anti-AI propaganda coming from the same AI corporations and governments trying to push for regulations that will grant them a monopoly on this tech and limit the development and usage for people. Many brought up multiple reasons why they dislike AI, the same arguments could be used for other technologies and services but personally i've never seen anyone here on lemmy picking a fight against military data centers or videogames industry for causing pollution.

The most upvoted comments hint at big techs being a problem but seem to fail to acknowledge that issues caused by "AI" are mostly caused by the corporations and evil characters behind these.

Keep in mind that the people against AI are usually very vocal about it, while the ones who use it stay quiet

Because of that, it's easy to get the wrong impression about how most people actually feel

I get that AI isn’t without its problems, especially Grok with that “Mechahitler” nonsense a bit ago, but there seems to be particular vitriol here. I’m genuinely curious to know why people hate it so much here.

The internet has gotten a lot worse at nuance. People don't know how to have a perspective other than pro or anti for controversial things, and if you're going to think of AI as a brand with a team then the team it seems associated with is big tech fascists, a group Lemmy's userbase will naturally regard as an enemy. Similar story as with cryptocurrency, it's seen as a brand, and associated with all the negative things that are done with it. Technologies are seen as themselves having a moral stance.

Most of them because they don't understand it. Some literally think it's a database of all the information copied with an auto-complete function tacked on. They don't understand that it's a neural network with multiple layers of digital synapses that works very similarly to our own brains - with the training data used to adjust the weights of the synapses at each level.

They think that training the model using the data is the same thing as copying it into a repository for it to regurgitate later, so they surmise that it can only perform plagiarism. They also believe that massive, inefficient data centers are the only way to utilize it, and they rightfully hate the data centers, and their hated then extends to the AI itself.

They also expect perfection, and use any instance of hallucinations as evidence that the entire technology is useless. They don't believe that the hallucinations are solvable so they see the entire branch of technology as a dead-end.

Honestly, I think it's just an extension of the hatred they hold for the companies primarily associated with AI. Those organizations are doing great harm to society, and our planet, and should be reviled. However, they don't realize that the two are separable - that AI is an amazing technology, and the companies championing it are evil. Both are true, but it's a difficult concept to understand with only a surface-level understanding of the industry.

Lemmy despite having major advantages over Reddit, appeals more to conspiracy theorists, or contrarians. -People who read click-bait headlines and not the actual articles. People that like simplified explanations for things: "AI is bad for the environment": **not ** "AI is getting more efficient and uses short bursts of processing (for simple questions or images), while computer gaming gets worse and runs 100% constant, and has the same toll on ram scarcity and environmental issues.

So, they gobble up all the negative headlines and parrot the anti-AI propaganda they're fed.