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Postmaster General Confirms Plan to Hold Back Mail Ballots in States that won’t Share Voter Data

“If a state refuses to turn their absentee voter list over to the federal government, will the Postal Service still mail their ballots under this proposal rule?” Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.), the committee’s top Democrat, asked Steiner.

“Under our proposed regulation, no,” Steiner replied.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5939636-trump-postal-service-voter-data/Open linkView original on lemmy.world

IDK what we're going to do in Oregon :( that's the only way we can vote.

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Oh, guys there's a correction coming in... No, they didn't *back. What they meant was *black. Big big difference. Theyre holding black people's vote, they're holding, Latino and Hispanic and Asian votes. Don't worry, they're not holding back the vote. That's crazy talk!

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lemmy.world

Use ballot drop boxes instead.

Weren't tRump supporters burning them last go around?

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I mean, one or two, yes. But there are thousands of them, and now they have improved fire resistance because of those fires.

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Earlier this year the Supreme Court just happened to rule that USPS can't be sued for not delivering mail.

A divided Supreme Court sided with the federal government on Tuesday in U.S. Postal Service v. Konan, a dispute over mishandled mail. Writing for a 5-4 majority, Justice Clarence Thomas explained that a law protecting the U.S. Postal Service from lawsuits over lost or miscarried mail bars lawsuits over mail that was intentionally misdelivered.

On Tuesday, the court sided with the government, holding that an intentional failure to deliver the mail falls within the FTCA’s postal exception. The ordinary meanings of both “miscarriage” and “loss” point the court to this conclusion, wrote Thomas in the majority opinion. “Because a ‘miscarriage’ includes any failure of mail to arrive properly, a person experiences a miscarriage of mail when his mail is delivered to his neighbor, held at the post office, or returned to the sender—regardless of why it happened,” he wrote. Similarly, “[w]hen Congress enacted the FTCA, the ‘loss’ of mail ordinarily meant a deprivation of mail, regardless of how the deprivation was brought about.”

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The Hill is a little behind on this one. The court just struck down the EO and said postal service must continue to deliver ballots. In the article, Steiner claims he's going to follow whatever the court decides, so let's hope that's the case.

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One more reason to drop the ballot in a drop box if one is available to you.

I’ve been voting absentee for years and have never returned it through the post.

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lemmy.zip

It's the other direction. The ballot won't get to you to drop off.

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lemmy.world

Does the constitution say that states must turn over absentee voter data in order to vote?

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bedwyrreply
piefed.ca

No, the Constitution does say States run their own elections. Feds can legislate times and dates and some stuff, but they have no legal authority to do this.

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This was the condition that allowed the states to federate in the first place. If we were to place as much importance on this as the States did before federation, the breaking of this contract would be returned in kind by no longest submitting to the Federal government's authority or pocket book.

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We really need to stop saying shit like this.

The Constitution does not matter. Until conservatives, specifically Trump, are stopped, they are going to be fascists.

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That not a good reason to stop citing the constitution. The moment people stop doing that, then it's completely over. It's still beneficial to point it out so that people are genuinely aware. Also, federal judges have been shooting down Trump a lot recently. So yea, it does still matter.

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So we're supposed to not mention the constitution in order to stop conservatives? I would say make it make sense but it wouldn't be possible for it to make sense.

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Nope, actually it says that states get to run and regulate their own elections.

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Genuine question: Does it say that the federal post office cannot filter the mail? Or that state rules for delivering specific kinds of mail the federal post must abide?

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So mail it in unmarked envelopes. Are you going to try to hold all mail for everyone? Or hold it to specific addresses?

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