Pentagon seeks $80 billion from Congress for Iran war
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The law congress had no part in starting? The war you lost on your own? That war?
It was Trumps folly, not a war to defend the interest of the US. Send the bill to the Idiot in Command in the White House.
I don’t get it, what are they gonna do with it? Lose harder?
I don't think they're losing as much as they don't even know what "victory" is. I'm not sure what the goal was.
Take it out of the ballroom budget.
The war we just lost? You don’t get a bonus for failure Pete.
The illegal war that's still being lost.
The illegal war that's was already lost, followed by a shitty deal the orange fascist dog already signed, then kiiinda immediately violated the ceasefire?
Was the war even over for a day before it resumed? Did anybody return home? It will be legislated whether the war was lost or is still being lost because many people think the president is completely free to wage unconstitutional wars as long as they don't exceed 60 days and at some point it's going to matter whether the current war is the same war or a new war that hasn't reached 60 days yet.
Coward GOP and brain-damaged Fetterman will eagerly strap on their well worn knee pads to approve anything the murderous administration asks for.
Fetterman is just playing his part in all this kayfabe. Ever notice how there's always just enough Democrats willing to cross the aisle to pass this garbage legislation? That's because they want to make it appear as if there's actual opposition to stuff like this when in reality this was the plan all along, they're all in on it, and they're just following the script.
When Democrats have a majority, they flip it around and pretend like they always have to water all their bills down for 'bipartisan support' to the point of being completely ineffective so that they can keep us in our place while pretending to be heroes with victory just out of reach.
Victory will always be just out of reach so long as Democrats and Republicans control congress. The ruling class is always looking out for their own best interests not the intrests of the American public.
What I don't love about this narrative is that it kinda implies that all Democrats are the same and in on this shit.
There definitely are a lot of corpo Dems that are willing to bend the knee when called upon, but pretending literally all politicians are in on this level of conspiracy is basically giving up. Figure out which Dems reliably fuck up votes and focus some fucking energy on them.
And then also focus on implementing something like Ranked Choice or Approval voting locally.
Fucking damn it, I know there are some really shitty rich people right now being absolute wads, but don't let your awareness of those shitty people make you think that everyone in the world is like that.
Yep. Im often disappointed that covid wasnt more deadly because the only way to get change without full violent revolution would be catastrophic events that wipes out these institutions.
The black death actually had a similar effect in Europe. Its awful. I know. But nature doesn't discriminate in the same ways that humans do.
What does it say about our world that the most realistic paths toward more equitable government is an asteroid, super volcano, or plague with 90% mortality rate?
Who knows, we're looking at several potential pandemics now, so it might happen
Maybe. I just have mixed feelings about agreeing with the scientist from 12 monkeys.
They're not cowards. They got elected to inflate the Pentagon budget. It's what they're in Congress to do.
They’re cowards because they say differently in private when they discuss these issues and then parrot talking points in public practice. They know that what they’re doing is wrong but they are too cowardly to take a stand for their own privately expressed principles.
That's not being a coward, that's being a liar.
They're not afraid of doing the right thing; they just don't have any desire to, and they know they have to lie to get the public to go along with it.
The congressperson is the ultimate Improv Comedian. They're always out doing the Yes-And for their audience. Can't tell you how many times I've spoken with a Congressman who nods and agrees with me on everything, then turns to someone who is my polar opposite and nods and agrees with them, too.
You think a bunch of white nationalists and imperial hawks think bombing Iran was a mistake? Dems and GOPers alike have been chaffing at the bit to bomb Iran since the Carter administration. Trump is delivering them their hearts' deepest desire. The only thing Congress wanted more than War with Iran are War with Cuba and War with China. That's been the joke of the last four months. It's Congresscritters running around insisting "Trump is fighting the war WRONG!" then losing their shit at the first wiff of surrender.
If anything, these people think we didn't go hard enough. They're absolutely turgid at the thought of the ceasefire breaking, because it gives them an opportunity to go on the Sunday Morning shows and scream "Death to Iran! They broke the ceasefire and must be obliterated!"
no healthcare iniatives I see
The budget was given to the Iranians for winning the war. Looks like you're going to need a bake sale Pete.
80 billion for the bombs and bodies plus 300 billion in restoration funds and probably another 100 billion in unfrozen assets to get a worse deal than was already in place
Art of the deal, if I was this bad at my job I'd probably not just get fired but have criminal negligence charges
Cut waste and fraud. Fking liars
You've already had Iran war
We've had one, yes. But what about second Iran war?
Don’t think he knows about second Iran War, Pete.
American cartel using the "law" to give themselves money so they can invest internationally later.
Liberals: "The Iran war is going to cost us an additional $300B?!"
Hegseth: "Haha, no."