Spyke
lemmy.world

At first I read "Putin died" and I cannot even begin to describe the emotions going through me while I checked the sub name, before realizing I missed a word.

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An interesting thought for sure, a thought about preparing for winter with, eh, expected uncertainty and fuel crisis started to form in my head. Like framing the balconies and additionally insulating old balcony doors and such stuff. Not even speaking about a reserve of matches, salt, sugar, canned meat and such.

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lemmy.zip

He had some mushrooms and instantly shot himself in the back a couple of times before he threw himself out of the window. Totally normal, nothing to see here.

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0x0reply
infosec.pub

Right? Me too, haven't felt such a rush in ages even if it was short lived

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If they both die on the same day there will be much party

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lemmy.zip

I don't know much about Russian politics, but I seem to remember reading something saying that the people in potential positions to replace him are all crazy ultracons, so probably not a lot would change. Obviously the world would be better without him in general but I'm not sure how much relief it would ultimately bring.

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lemmy.world

Friends say he passed away at home after eating mushrooms he found in the yard of his home.

Though he was a mushroom expert, the mushrooms he collected turned out to be poisonous.

When I become a political speaker I’m going to make my hobbies piano moving, snake catching, deep sea fishing, and free climbing.

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andallthatreply
lemmy.world

....the mushrooms he saw in the yard of his home, right before diving from the fifth floor window in his excitement to pick them up and being almost saved by a passer-by, helpfully trying to slow his fall by shooting a few bullets up at him

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A Russian coworker once lamented that he couldn't collect mushrooms in our area since he was not familiar with them like back home. Guess it's not an unusual thing to do in Russia.

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Cad
lemmy.world

He's not the first Putin enemy to die from accidental mushroom poisoning. Look up the scientist Vitaly Melnikov.

There is an interesting podcast called Sad Oligarchs that document alot of these sort of deaths in Russia.

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lemmy.pt

So many "coincidences" over the years. These "accidents" always happen to his dear oppositors. Nobody knows why.

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gruereply
lemmy.world

I wonder how many Putin allies have died similarly, and if there's any reporting bias about it.

Not doubting the "coincidences," but it would be interesting to validate statistically.

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This is more of a cultural thing where you know you will get killed if you go against the leader, you know it's "bad" to even talk bad about them, and it's just accepted and you don't really criticize it... Because criticizing your government would mean getting in serious trouble. You learn this young. You accept it. You just don't do it.

That's how it was in the USSR, how it persisted under Putin, and they just believe that to be a symptom of a "strong" government. Apparently youth might be waking up a bit more in recent years, but it was like that for a long fucking time and they accept that just opening a piece of white paper in front of a building like a protester means getting carried away.

So yeah they know these people are getting killed by their government. It's just accepted. There is no question that it isn't an accident.

It's like that one video where someone goes up to a random Russian guy and asks him if he supports the war or Putin or something, and he gets quiet then says, "why talk about such things when we're surrounded by a beautiful city?" Then walks away.

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lemmy.today

lets recap: falling out of windows right after series of losses, asking for covid assistance, falling out or exploding planes, poisonous underwear, falling off of boats, bombs.

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teyrnonreply
sh.itjust.works

Don't forget the other poisonings, and shooting. From radioactive polonium, to nerve toxins, to we would even count pumping that concert hall full of fentanyl gas when it was taken by chechens and killing a good share if not most of the hostages, considered a great success in Russia I'm sure.

There was another with some kind of tree frog in a sweat lodge too just a few years back.

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russia sure likes to try anything that has poison in it. ricin and polonium was too obvious, so its novichik for dissidents, windows for oligarches.

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lemmy.world

His enemies have started to avoid Windows and BUM, a new method. Putin is an inventive killer. Unlike Netanyahu who just kills en masse.

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Deebsterreply
infosec.pub

Russia has a long, long history with poisoning, going back to at least Stalin's time.

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I think they have like a huge collection of all the world's poisons in St. Petersburg.

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I had to re-read it 3 times to realize that BUM wasn't meant to be an acronym (which is also a new method) or nether regions of the body, but >>!BAM!<< in their own language. We also say 'bumm', but with a long 'm'.

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Friends say he passed away at home after eating mushrooms he found in the yard of his home.

Though he was a mushroom expert, the mushrooms he collected turned out to be poisonous.

This is such a "wink, wink " to readers if I ever see one

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If an Amanita, they are universally known amongst mushroom experts and even just foragers, never trust any white mushrooms with their look. There is a very low chance he wasn't poisoned.

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lemmy.nz

I'm conflicted.

As an "enemy" of Putin, I have to assume assignation, but no windows? Russia has lots its way, are the classics no longer respected.

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Maybe he died of the mushroom before or during a defenstration. it does seem out of pattern.

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"Let's see them throw me out a window now! I'll never set foot inside a building with a window ever again. I'm just going to live a simple life outdoors with my mushrooms. They're the only thing that brings me joy anymore."

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Perhaps he lives in a single-story building, so defenestration might take some time.

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At this point I think anyone important in Russia is staying on the ground floor at all times! Bungalows only!

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Intern: But comrade doctor, the man was obviously shot!

Comrade Doctor: Not so comrade, the mushrooms simply happened to be 9mm lead and thus he can reasonably have been said to have died of lead mushroom poisoning.

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lemmy.world

α-Amanitin. Amanita looks edible. Common way to die. Also a very easy cover-up if they enjoy foraging for food. A lot of species are foragable, but a lot are also deadly and hard to differentiate. Definitely sus, but I wouldn't be surprised if this guy ate something similar to a death cap.

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iocasereply
lemmy.zip

And apparently death caps are delicious

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iocasereply
lemmy.zip

You know, I might actually try them if I know I'm going to die from something else. They completely destroy your liver and that's and excruciating death, so you want to make sure something else kills you first.

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Well that's exactly my point! You can have a succulent death cap meal and then die by the pelvis of your Amazonian lover!

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aussie.zone

We had a case of death cap mushrooms in a Beef Wellington in Australia. The cook was convicted of killing her ex in-laws. Sounds familiar.

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lemmy.today

they were spread in the USA to, from oaks imported from europe that had the spores on them.

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apparently its not a unique to a clade, but any of the related anamita deadly mushrooms that are all WHITE. phalloides, is greenish. they have some europe, but doesnt seem as common as death cap.

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Damagereply
feddit.it

Ex in laws? That's a hell of a grudge to hold

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jaybonereply
lemmy.zip

Yeah I remember reading that story. It was pretty fucked up.

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Extremely. She went to a lot of trouble, killed 3 one recovered but her ex canceled. An amazing court case too.

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likely using DEATH cap, anamita phalloides, which very toxic to the liver and grows all over EURASIA. lemme guess hes next choice of poison is aconitum, WOLFSBANE. the plant is so toxic you can get poisoned just by touching it.

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Death caps and destroying angels can be treated if you catch them in time. It's just by the time you realize it it's too late usually.

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piefed.jeena.net

Everyone knows you should only eat the mushrooms you know and not just anything you find in the Forrest.

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teyrnonreply
sh.itjust.works

A mushroom expert would know that too, which is why we all think he was poisoned.

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I guess hunting for mushrooms in Russia is a thing. Not that I wouldn't put this past Putin, but it's entirely possible this was just a thing that happened.

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No one should. There is no simple rule for determining mushroom edibility, and definitely not that one.

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Oyster mushrooms are great and nearly impossible to misidentify as something poisonous.

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