For actual tips though, healthygamersgg on YouTube/Twitch is an excellent resource. He is a licensed therapist and has a ton of adhd videos and other topics.
This is only the half of it. Dude spent years becoming a monk and learned a bunch of meditation techniques and practices that have been transformative for me. I've been looking at ADHD resources on YouTube for years and no one else I've seen there have the insights he does. I ended up purchasing his guide but just going through his YouTube catalog I'm still finding videos that are gold.
He's also given me a lot of topics that taught me how to actually recognize issues that I had, and to bring that to my personal therapist to talk about. They really work well together!
This might be a personal issue, but to me the vibes feel off with him. I’m not against someone self promoting, it just seems like every video of his I’ve seen has him wedging his $75 guide and $600 “group coaching” into conversations whenever he can. I’m not saying he’s wrong about anything or that his videos aren’t useful, he just comes off as very used car salesman to me.
I like Dr. K and think the content he puts out is important and useful, but there are a few items with his approach that I don't appreciate. In a few of his earlier videos, he uses an example of a farmer vs. a hunter (or something thereabouts) to explain why certain unproductive thoughts can be reoccurring in people. I find that this has a lot of overlap with evolutionary psychology, which has an evidence problem and is often employed by "mindset grifters" to move product. I'm not saying that Dr. K is one of those grifters, but I'm concerned that his employment of it might "soften up" viewers to that kind of logic. So that when an actual grifter employs it, the person would be more receptive to being scammed.
But even so, I still want to stress that I think there's a lot of good in his content and I think offering as much free content as he does is a public service.
Edit: sorry, i forgot to tie this back to your comment. He often in his earlier videos tied back those evolutionary psychology examples to concepts in Vedic philosophy and meditation. I think that could be dangerous for the reasons above, with the added issue of tying evidence-based science to things that can't be evidenced (like someone having a certain tendency present in Vedic thought). I have the same objections to that as I would astrology. But of course if people find either of those things helpful to their mental health journey, more power to them.
And someone can't be licensed and potentially be pushing their own products for financial gain?
Not really saying that's exactly what he's doing but just saying they're licensed doesn't put a person above reproach, especially when it comes to selling things to people.
If he wants to sell his guides for $75, yeah I think that's overpriced but he can set the price he wants. It's the whole group coaching thing that seems most sketch to me. A group of up to 7 people all having what he legally can't imply is group therapy, but the website advertises that it helps reduce anxiety and depression. His brand is all about mental health, and to me it just skirts too close to doing a bait and switch.
I'm also not a huge fan of the math on their customer cost:coach payment. For group sessions it's $30/session/person, but their coach base salary is $20/hour and "up to" $37.50/hour. There aren't any insurance costs or office rent or anything else like this being eaten up here.
All of this stuff is technically legal, I just find it distasteful and it makes me suspicious.
I've paid more than that for therapy sessions, I'm well aware of how fucked the costs are. But they aren't comparable. Therapy is a one on one session with a licensed professional who is providing you with an evaluation and potentially treatment, versus an ebook written by a doctor. I'm not saying it's useless information, but you can probably get comparable books from your local library for free.
"I think my phone is more interesting than gardenwork"
Bro that's ADHD!
"I sometimes forget where i put my keys"
That's ADHD for sure you should get meds
The only "resources" on tiktok that might actually help, are just videos of users giving the viewer general words of affirmation and support. And it's not gonna fix you; it would just boost your mood a little and maybe get you out of a slump.
Yes! Why is it like this? I hate when people tell me to watch some video essay on a disorder - like why the fuck am I listening to some random person on youtube with no credibility??
Why would anyone trust tik tok ad a source for ANY information at all?! That’s like watching the Sifl and silly episode where they dance to the Du Hast video to learn German.
TikTok does have a ton of misinformation, projections of learned helplessness, and recommendations of pseudoscience/under-studied treatments; but if you are a TikToker and really want to get ADHD tips there, here are a few users I've found that actually seem to know what they're talking about:
HowToADHD (Jessica McCabe)
The_ADHD_Nutritionist (Marley Alex)
ADHDVision
ADHD_Coach_Ryan (ADHD Coach Ryan Mayer)
Though even with them, take what they say with a grain of salt, do your homework, and talk to your doctor/therapist/executive function coach before implementing stuff that may impact your wellbeing. Also, be mindful of recommendations that are also paid sponsorships.
I follow a couple more, personally, but I don't feel comfortable recommending them because their suggestions and the information they provide can be a bit dubious at times.
i hate how people have to dance around giving proper tips with so much occluded tiptoey bullshit language. who talks to their doctor like it's a normal thing
It's about personal responsibility. I'm not an expert, and I'm not going to pretend to be--especially when it comes to someone's health. I feel like it's important to make an effort to avoid misleading anyone.
It's also a good idea to talk to your doctor when you have quetions. I've consulted my doctor about supplements, water intake, and all kinds of seemingly innocuous things. When it comes to my ADHD, I talk to my care team regularly about the stuff I'm doing/not doing.
I mean, I don't make an appointment for all of that, I just send an email. My doctor is cool with it if I email them non-urgent questions and they will just get back to me when they can. I don't do it often, but every once in a while if I have a question or concern about my health, I just send off a quick email.
A primary care pgysitian I'd you have health insurance is not to terribly expensive. And their are primaries at least where I live that will do direct primary care with no insurance for less than the cost of insurance.
And I spend so much time with my doctor because my health conditions and hormone therapy require regular visits with doctors
No seriously I do this and I went to my doc like 6 times over a year to find the right balance of my meds, while seeing a therapist who I'd also talk about treatment. Your primary care should be the best place to refer you to a specialist or talk you down if you don't need it.
As terrible as tiktok can be, it is literally the place that showed me I have adhd... later confirmed by profesionals once I knew to ask. Had I not dabbled on tiktok during the pandemic, I'd probably still be wondering what's wrong with me... not that I'm saying adhd is "wrong", just that for 40 years, I always knew I wasn't neuro-typical and couldn't function the same as others without having any answers as to why. I would frequently fall into a debilitating spiral of self-loathing and mental abuse, convinced that I was somehow at fault. Finally, having an answer has helped immensely, and unfortunately, I have tiktok to thank for this.
Same boat, except I was diagnosed before hand. I was scrolling one night and adhd content started started to appear where people were talking about how it impacted their lives (albeit via stupid lists). It actually pinpointed a lot of behaviours I exhibited and put meaning to them. I was sceptical at first but started to see more and more of the same behaviours being highlighted, so I wrote them down and took them back to my shrink, who sat down and went thru them with me and we started to work through them. Was actually quite helpful.
idk why but i never got tiktok. the all-powerful mystical algorithm that hijacks your brain just didn't work on me. it's all politics bullshit and lame facebook memes.
hell, the fedi (both lemmy and the microblog-verse) has "wasted" more of my lifespan overall than tiktok.
If you told it you didn't like that content it would just try something else. Or searched your interests so it knows what you're looking for. My feed is full of only my interests 99.9% of the time. Everyone complaining about only getting cringy content is really telling on themselves here lol
Everyone complaining about only getting cringy content is really telling on themselves here lol
even in the deepest, darkest, secret-est parts of my soul i have no interest in any content (a) in Arabic and (b) of imams. i can't even understand a word of Arabic and am not religious, yet apparently that was the most up to date profile tiktok had on me the last time i tried it out. (which was the 3rd time or so) and i even made an account and signed in.
the politics bullshit and lame facebook-grade memes were the "best" it could muster. as in, the only things i understood.
maybe it works better in an english speaking and not-religious-asf country.
Nah you probably just didn't give it much of a chance then. Especially if you think it caters to the religious crowd lol. They get torn apart in my little corner of tiktok. My entire feed is cooking, crochet, gardening, gaming, cats, random memes, and for some reason chickens. I don't know why it decided I wanted to see people's pet chickens but it was indeed very correct. The only political stuff I get for the most part is people I follow in politics
i know people love to shit on tiktok and a lot of it is fucking garbage, but there's also little nuggets of incredible gold on there. i've gotten so many game changing little hacks from there
PLUS what makes it really unique imo is how immersive video is -- it allows for so much more frank discussion and normalization of mental illness when you can see the person and hear their voice. i've personally found so many great videos on like adult loneliness and coping with being alone -- and it's so wonderful to experience, seeing real, normal looking people going thru it with you, instead of the implication everyone is a sad loser gaming in the dark or whatever
@_number8_@db0 there are nuggets but you’ve got to wade through so much garbage to find it. By garbage I mean that crap you didn’t ask for and the people that think they have helpful #ADHD information, but they don’t. By my own fault, I use it as a dopamine slot machine at night and can lose 3 hours like nothing. So I had to take it off my phone.
It took me about a year and a half to go from having a diagnosis to actually doing anything about it. Like it took my career going off the rails to take the diagnosis from the specialist to my family doctor.
My wife was skeptical at first, but now is very supportive. And to be fair it was about 10 years between my first inkling and the diagnosis so I suppose it's fair to say that I was also skeptical at first.
I'm now on my second medication and in counseling. I'd say it's only kinda working. The most effective thing has been to set things up to take advantage of urgency/accountability.
Same, but like it's not even good. Like I bet tiktok works because the algorithm is good and shows stuff you actually want to watch, but on YouTube Shorts I skip over most of them. Still keep scrolling tho
It doesn't really seem like it honestly. My buddy's girlfriend watches a lot of tiktok and it usually looks like multiple minutes of flicking past random bullshit to find one thing she likes, then rinse and repeat.
At least on Lemmy when I'm scrolling multiple pages of shit to find something I like, I'm not being immediately assaulted by your video I didn't want to watch on every post I scroll past.
Lol dude come on. You're really trying to pretend you scrolling past content on here is somehow different? And you're speaking for someone else with no personal experience yourself? This whole post is giving boomers from Reddit tbh
Why are you supporting tiktok so strongly in this whole comment section, are you trying to convince people to waste their time on another app which only purpose is to use your time instead of doing something useful? TikTok is poison for ADHD as it is only another thing you can waste many hours of your life on, which is stopping you from actually doing the things that need to be done.
Hours enjoyed aren't hours wasted. You don't have to be productive to be happy. I'm just disappointed in my fellow millennials. The way you all sound like boomers on Facebook weirds me out. The way you pretend your flavor of social media somehow makes you superior is entertaining at least.
I mostly agree with them though, because a lot of the content on tiktok is pretty much useless stuff that wastes your time you have to scroll a lot to actually get somthing useful that is well researched. On lemmy most of the posts have proper content and articles(ignoring memes).
I intentionally don't do TikTok for this reason. I would literally get nothing done. I do watch tech videos on the side while working. Then YouTube started pushing shorts aggressively and I caught myself scrolling shorts for 2 hours and did zero work.
Memes and shitpost can only get you so far. Plus, it's not a very professional thing to do, like fidget toys. Only working on ways to remain focused and taking medication can help adhd.
‘I have a gambling problem’
‘The casino has lots of resources that can help problem gamblers’
Absolute madness.
I mean... they do they can ban you for life... so....
For actual tips though, healthygamersgg on YouTube/Twitch is an excellent resource. He is a licensed therapist and has a ton of adhd videos and other topics.
This is only the half of it. Dude spent years becoming a monk and learned a bunch of meditation techniques and practices that have been transformative for me. I've been looking at ADHD resources on YouTube for years and no one else I've seen there have the insights he does. I ended up purchasing his guide but just going through his YouTube catalog I'm still finding videos that are gold.
He's also given me a lot of topics that taught me how to actually recognize issues that I had, and to bring that to my personal therapist to talk about. They really work well together!
This might be a personal issue, but to me the vibes feel off with him. I’m not against someone self promoting, it just seems like every video of his I’ve seen has him wedging his $75 guide and $600 “group coaching” into conversations whenever he can. I’m not saying he’s wrong about anything or that his videos aren’t useful, he just comes off as very used car salesman to me.
I liked their first two albums but changed my mind after that charity gig.
I like Dr. K and think the content he puts out is important and useful, but there are a few items with his approach that I don't appreciate. In a few of his earlier videos, he uses an example of a farmer vs. a hunter (or something thereabouts) to explain why certain unproductive thoughts can be reoccurring in people. I find that this has a lot of overlap with evolutionary psychology, which has an evidence problem and is often employed by "mindset grifters" to move product. I'm not saying that Dr. K is one of those grifters, but I'm concerned that his employment of it might "soften up" viewers to that kind of logic. So that when an actual grifter employs it, the person would be more receptive to being scammed.
But even so, I still want to stress that I think there's a lot of good in his content and I think offering as much free content as he does is a public service.
Edit: sorry, i forgot to tie this back to your comment. He often in his earlier videos tied back those evolutionary psychology examples to concepts in Vedic philosophy and meditation. I think that could be dangerous for the reasons above, with the added issue of tying evidence-based science to things that can't be evidenced (like someone having a certain tendency present in Vedic thought). I have the same objections to that as I would astrology. But of course if people find either of those things helpful to their mental health journey, more power to them.
Why is that wrong? He also has an insane amount of free content on YouTube.
It's not wrong but any time someone is giving advice and selling something at the same time, it calls into question their motives and integrity.
Just means we should be suspicious, that's all. Lots of scammers out there.
Maybe something like the sponsorblock addon could help
Although that only hides the sponsored segments, they're still there, and potentially influencing the advice he gives.
He's literally a licensed therapist
And someone can't be licensed and potentially be pushing their own products for financial gain?
Not really saying that's exactly what he's doing but just saying they're licensed doesn't put a person above reproach, especially when it comes to selling things to people.
You just described having a job lol. People use their licenses to make money, that's the whole point!
Bruh, actually doing the job, not selling books or "not group therapy" group therapy sessions lmao
Slightly off topic - describes most social media influencers in a nutshell... particularly sponsored reviews lol
Edit: clarification
If he wants to sell his guides for $75, yeah I think that's overpriced but he can set the price he wants. It's the whole group coaching thing that seems most sketch to me. A group of up to 7 people all having what he legally can't imply is group therapy, but the website advertises that it helps reduce anxiety and depression. His brand is all about mental health, and to me it just skirts too close to doing a bait and switch.
I'm also not a huge fan of the math on their customer cost:coach payment. For group sessions it's $30/session/person, but their coach base salary is $20/hour and "up to" $37.50/hour. There aren't any insurance costs or office rent or anything else like this being eaten up here.
All of this stuff is technically legal, I just find it distasteful and it makes me suspicious.
Also if you think $75 for a guide is expensive, a single therapy session can be $90+
I've paid more than that for therapy sessions, I'm well aware of how fucked the costs are. But they aren't comparable. Therapy is a one on one session with a licensed professional who is providing you with an evaluation and potentially treatment, versus an ebook written by a doctor. I'm not saying it's useless information, but you can probably get comparable books from your local library for free.
This is like telling a crack head that there is an awesome support group for addiction in this dilapidated crack house down the street.
That's precisely my reaction. Shorts is like damn crack. I look up after two hours, "Shit, I have to get up in a couple hours"
"I think my phone is more interesting than gardenwork"
Bro that's ADHD!
"I sometimes forget where i put my keys"
That's ADHD for sure you should get meds
On ADHD-TikTok everything is ADHD
I was about to comment something rude, until I read the last line.
THATS ADHD!!!!!
I was about to comment something but then
I feel like it was pretty obviously taking the piss regardless.
I'm not sure if this was on purpose, but this comment complaining about run on sentences has one period. I love it.
Imma need a TL;DR on this one probably.
The only "resources" on tiktok that might actually help, are just videos of users giving the viewer general words of affirmation and support. And it's not gonna fix you; it would just boost your mood a little and maybe get you out of a slump.
People do that shit with YouTube too.
Me: "I'm looking for resources on this technology."
Them: "Here watch this 1 hour YouTube video from a random influencer who you can trust. Just ignore his ads to buy crypto."
Or stuff like
Me- mentions in passing that I have a chronic illness
Them- watch this 2 hour rambling video about a completely different condition and you'll be cured
Me- no, that would be like telling a paraplegic to watch a video about diabetes and then they'll no longer be paralyzed
Them- I was just trying to help, you just want to be in pain for the pity party
Yes! Why is it like this? I hate when people tell me to watch some video essay on a disorder - like why the fuck am I listening to some random person on youtube with no credibility??
I feel like its usually accompanied by things like "this person did a deep dive on this subject, you should watch this!"
Like.. I can spend 6 hours doing a deep dive myself?
Me: "I've gotten so bad at retaining focus when watching a video that it's sometimes difficult to even finish songs"
Them: "this 3 hour lecture by Professor Bland and this 5 hour Fortnite stream session from Immortal Wombat have some good tips!"
Why would anyone trust tik tok ad a source for ANY information at all?! That’s like watching the Sifl and silly episode where they dance to the Du Hast video to learn German.
I mean if it’s searching the rest of the internet at least it’s directing people away from tik tok
So, basically a search function? That’s like, pretty normal and not a bad thing (and not a search engine).
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like tik tok either. It makes no sense, and the spying is evil and bad, but having a search function within an app is…not?
That... what? That exists. It's called a search function lmao . You're gonna be real upset to know that there's a search function here too
DU HAST MESH
Reminded me that we were playing this song on the radio as a kid and my friends mom turned it off because it might be satanic.
TikTok does have a ton of misinformation, projections of learned helplessness, and recommendations of pseudoscience/under-studied treatments; but if you are a TikToker and really want to get ADHD tips there, here are a few users I've found that actually seem to know what they're talking about:
Though even with them, take what they say with a grain of salt, do your homework, and talk to your doctor/therapist/executive function coach before implementing stuff that may impact your wellbeing. Also, be mindful of recommendations that are also paid sponsorships.
I follow a couple more, personally, but I don't feel comfortable recommending them because their suggestions and the information they provide can be a bit dubious at times.
i hate how people have to dance around giving proper tips with so much occluded tiptoey bullshit language. who talks to their doctor like it's a normal thing
Yeah, sounds like a rich person thing and I'm not even American lol
It's about personal responsibility. I'm not an expert, and I'm not going to pretend to be--especially when it comes to someone's health. I feel like it's important to make an effort to avoid misleading anyone.
It's also a good idea to talk to your doctor when you have quetions. I've consulted my doctor about supplements, water intake, and all kinds of seemingly innocuous things. When it comes to my ADHD, I talk to my care team regularly about the stuff I'm doing/not doing.
Do you live in the US? How can you afford to talk to a doctor about drinking water?
And, I confess, what exactly is so mysterious and/or dangerous about drinking water that you can't just read about it on Wikipedia?
I mean, I don't make an appointment for all of that, I just send an email. My doctor is cool with it if I email them non-urgent questions and they will just get back to me when they can. I don't do it often, but every once in a while if I have a question or concern about my health, I just send off a quick email.
A primary care pgysitian I'd you have health insurance is not to terribly expensive. And their are primaries at least where I live that will do direct primary care with no insurance for less than the cost of insurance.
And I spend so much time with my doctor because my health conditions and hormone therapy require regular visits with doctors
No seriously I do this and I went to my doc like 6 times over a year to find the right balance of my meds, while seeing a therapist who I'd also talk about treatment. Your primary care should be the best place to refer you to a specialist or talk you down if you don't need it.
Anti- Tik tok instant upvote 😎 lol
TikTok bad, upvotes to the left.
This place is full to the brim with 40 year old boomers.
Wow, "have you tried surrendering your decision making to this algorithm?"
As terrible as tiktok can be, it is literally the place that showed me I have adhd... later confirmed by profesionals once I knew to ask. Had I not dabbled on tiktok during the pandemic, I'd probably still be wondering what's wrong with me... not that I'm saying adhd is "wrong", just that for 40 years, I always knew I wasn't neuro-typical and couldn't function the same as others without having any answers as to why. I would frequently fall into a debilitating spiral of self-loathing and mental abuse, convinced that I was somehow at fault. Finally, having an answer has helped immensely, and unfortunately, I have tiktok to thank for this.
Same boat, except I was diagnosed before hand. I was scrolling one night and adhd content started started to appear where people were talking about how it impacted their lives (albeit via stupid lists). It actually pinpointed a lot of behaviours I exhibited and put meaning to them. I was sceptical at first but started to see more and more of the same behaviours being highlighted, so I wrote them down and took them back to my shrink, who sat down and went thru them with me and we started to work through them. Was actually quite helpful.
I love "misinformation vortex". Too true
Thank you! I'm on The struggle bus as is, I'm not trying to put a brick on the gas pedal.
idk why but i never got tiktok. the all-powerful mystical algorithm that hijacks your brain just didn't work on me. it's all politics bullshit and lame facebook memes.
hell, the fedi (both lemmy and the microblog-verse) has "wasted" more of my lifespan overall than tiktok.
If you told it you didn't like that content it would just try something else. Or searched your interests so it knows what you're looking for. My feed is full of only my interests 99.9% of the time. Everyone complaining about only getting cringy content is really telling on themselves here lol
even in the deepest, darkest, secret-est parts of my soul i have no interest in any content (a) in Arabic and (b) of imams. i can't even understand a word of Arabic and am not religious, yet apparently that was the most up to date profile tiktok had on me the last time i tried it out. (which was the 3rd time or so) and i even made an account and signed in.
the politics bullshit and lame facebook-grade memes were the "best" it could muster. as in, the only things i understood.
maybe it works better in an english speaking and not-religious-asf country.
Nah you probably just didn't give it much of a chance then. Especially if you think it caters to the religious crowd lol. They get torn apart in my little corner of tiktok. My entire feed is cooking, crochet, gardening, gaming, cats, random memes, and for some reason chickens. I don't know why it decided I wanted to see people's pet chickens but it was indeed very correct. The only political stuff I get for the most part is people I follow in politics
I prefer this misinformation vortex
i know people love to shit on tiktok and a lot of it is fucking garbage, but there's also little nuggets of incredible gold on there. i've gotten so many game changing little hacks from there
PLUS what makes it really unique imo is how immersive video is -- it allows for so much more frank discussion and normalization of mental illness when you can see the person and hear their voice. i've personally found so many great videos on like adult loneliness and coping with being alone -- and it's so wonderful to experience, seeing real, normal looking people going thru it with you, instead of the implication everyone is a sad loser gaming in the dark or whatever
@_number8_ @db0 there are nuggets but you’ve got to wade through so much garbage to find it. By garbage I mean that crap you didn’t ask for and the people that think they have helpful #ADHD information, but they don’t. By my own fault, I use it as a dopamine slot machine at night and can lose 3 hours like nothing. So I had to take it off my phone.
For someone who's suspicious. Any links or tips? The community page was thin as f.
It was a meme version of this article which caused me to seek a formal diagnosis.
https://themighty.com/topic/adhd/icnu-william-dodson-adhd-motivation/
Did you get help? I'm scared even my wife doubts me.
It took me about a year and a half to go from having a diagnosis to actually doing anything about it. Like it took my career going off the rails to take the diagnosis from the specialist to my family doctor.
My wife was skeptical at first, but now is very supportive. And to be fair it was about 10 years between my first inkling and the diagnosis so I suppose it's fair to say that I was also skeptical at first.
I'm now on my second medication and in counseling. I'd say it's only kinda working. The most effective thing has been to set things up to take advantage of urgency/accountability.
I'm honestly amazed that I haven't succumbed and downloaded it.
I accidentally got sucked into YouTube shorts which is basically the same thing. Be careful out there.
Same, but like it's not even good. Like I bet tiktok works because the algorithm is good and shows stuff you actually want to watch, but on YouTube Shorts I skip over most of them. Still keep scrolling tho
It doesn't really seem like it honestly. My buddy's girlfriend watches a lot of tiktok and it usually looks like multiple minutes of flicking past random bullshit to find one thing she likes, then rinse and repeat.
At least on Lemmy when I'm scrolling multiple pages of shit to find something I like, I'm not being immediately assaulted by your video I didn't want to watch on every post I scroll past.
Lol dude come on. You're really trying to pretend you scrolling past content on here is somehow different? And you're speaking for someone else with no personal experience yourself? This whole post is giving boomers from Reddit tbh
Why are you supporting tiktok so strongly in this whole comment section, are you trying to convince people to waste their time on another app which only purpose is to use your time instead of doing something useful? TikTok is poison for ADHD as it is only another thing you can waste many hours of your life on, which is stopping you from actually doing the things that need to be done.
Hours enjoyed aren't hours wasted. You don't have to be productive to be happy. I'm just disappointed in my fellow millennials. The way you all sound like boomers on Facebook weirds me out. The way you pretend your flavor of social media somehow makes you superior is entertaining at least.
I mostly agree with them though, because a lot of the content on tiktok is pretty much useless stuff that wastes your time you have to scroll a lot to actually get somthing useful that is well researched. On lemmy most of the posts have proper content and articles(ignoring memes).
I intentionally don't do TikTok for this reason. I would literally get nothing done. I do watch tech videos on the side while working. Then YouTube started pushing shorts aggressively and I caught myself scrolling shorts for 2 hours and did zero work.
Memes and shitpost can only get you so far. Plus, it's not a very professional thing to do, like fidget toys. Only working on ways to remain focused and taking medication can help adhd.