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I'd like to change my last name and want suggestions

I can't reveal my first name but it is old-fashioned English--think Meredith, Esther, Olga, Gretchen...

My last name makes me too identifiable. It is an Ellis Island misspelling that makes me the only person on this earth with my exact first and last name combo.

I thought I would change it with marriage but I don't think marriage is going to happen for me, at least not anytime soon, and I'm not putting anything on hold for it anymore.

I think with my old-timey first name I could afford a zany last name. I like Winter and Snow. I don't want it to be too "out there" or difficult to spell, so I'm not going to do something like Zephyr, and I would like suggestions that aren't too tied to a specific concept. Interesting enough but not excessively unique.

My background is Taiwanese and white American without ties to any specific country strong enough to pick a name from some European country I only have a bit of a connection to from generations ago. The white side is Irish, Welsh, and French. I am not trying to stand out excessively. I do not feel a strong connection to my Taiwanese side, and that could be its own post. I don't want something commonly mispronounced. I was thinking something like Shaw? It might make my ex think I'm obsessed with him but he already thinks that so whatever.

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piefed.world

If it's currently a misspelling, why not use the correct spelling?

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feddit.org

Best suggestion IMO.
Or research the history of your correctly spelled last name and see if you like any more common historical variants.

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motereply
lemmy.ca

My immediate thought: the paperwork system of the world would fail. Correcting an extremely unique misspelled name (let's say it's two letters transposed) falls into that weird bucket of "close enough typos" that the OP would never recover. I'd be worried most about the financial systems screwing me over.

IMHO, best to change to something clearly different so that the paperwork world is given a clear indication of intentional change. Broadcast the intent loud and clear to force systems to change and not ignore it as "some stupid typo." $0.02

edit: sorry replied to the wrong comment my bad, meant the parent

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Could do a double change. Change from Zmyth to Brewski and then back to Smith, avoiding the misspelling pitfall.

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sh.itjust.works

Could go with the "last name thats just a job title" like baker or smith or computer scientist

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Ten years ago, it was Alan Student.

Seven years ago, he called himself Alan ITSupport.

Four years ago, he changed it to Alan Servicemanager.

You want to know what he goes by now? Alan Stayathomedad. It's really annoying that he keeps changing his surname for each job.

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me: Is that Gretchen from marketing?

my coworker: No, that's Gretchen Marketing. She's in sales.

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slazer2aureply
lemmy.world

John Customer Success Account Manager is a handful and not something you want initialed.

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Which reminds me of nominative determinism. OP should choose “Rich” “ Wise” “Smart” “Dollar”. And also - first Impressions are everything.

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I knew a woman a long time ago that took the last name von Finglebum-Smythe. People would ask if it was German, or English, or whatever. She would always reply “No, it’s fictitious”

I have always loved that

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... it is old-fashioned English--think Meredith, Esther, Olga, Gretchen...

I realize this is kind of beside the point but bear with me please. None of these names are English. Meredith is Welsh, Esther is from the Bible, Olga is Russian with a tinge of Scandinavian, and Gretchen is straight up German. Now, your actual name might be English so it is only tangentially relevant. And while you could dismiss this all as smarteassery on my part, which would be fair, I just want to impress upon you that what you think about names may not be correct. It's not a popular piece of advice in 2026 but: do your own research first before you go to the courthouse. Just confirm with the search engine of your choice that you got the right idea. Don't trust disagreed m so-called AI with this.

I wish you best of luck with your search. I'd suggest "Lee" - a common family name both in the anglosphere and a variant of a common Chinese one as well.

Ellis Island misspellings are a piece of patina of the US. I think at this point in time that makes them in themselves worth preserving. I don't mean to talk you out of your plan here, it's just fruit for thought.

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I like being beside the point too. I would counter that you could see those names belonging to a regular English woman in the 19th century. I think Lee is a good idea. There are others of my father's last name who can carry it on but I won't take that filial duty on myself.

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If it's an Ellis Island misspelling, could you not just correct the misspelling and go with the corrected version?

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Sounds pretty fucking badass if you ask me, Doctor.

or maybe then go for "Who" or "Hu" if you like to make friends with nerds

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programming.dev

Wouldn't a "zany" last name become just as identifiable as your current unique name?

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thelemmy.club

It wouldn't have my police blotter attached to it though. I'm being jokey about it but it sucks that something I was wrongfully arrested for a decade ago is just there every time you search me. Like, I wasn't even charged, I was just arrested for a second, but since I don't do anything to get into papers that's one of the top things if you search me.

Might be worthwhile to look into SEO optimization instead of changing the name. Seems like it'll be a lot of work either way.

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CameronDevreply
programming.dev

If you were in the EU, right to be forgotten laws would help, but I guess you are not.

But that is definitely a good reason to name change, it would be a problem for job interviews :/

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I'm actually shocked that I got into a good medical school with my name. I wonder if they googled me and decided it wasn't a big deal.

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lemmy.world

Just something you should be aware, getting your name changed could be a royal pain in the butt and takes a long time, fair bit of money and a lot of patience. I recently went through the process and it's quite the journey. First thing you need to get is a signed paper from a judge in your state. Here are the list of things you have to do afterwards. There are some dependencies so you may not be able to get them done simultaneously. Social security card and state drivers license are the two most important and everything else comes afterwards.

  • Social Security Card - Depending on your location, an appointment could take few months.
  • Driver's License - In my state name change doesn't require an appointment however if you're upgrading to Real ID then it may require an appointment. Appointment could take several weeks to several months depending on your state.
  • Car registrations
  • Car titles - This could cost some money
  • Car insurance
  • Passport and Passport Card - This could take some time and may cost some money depending on your situation. https://travel.state.gov/en/passports/renew-replace/change-correct-passport.html
  • Your employer
  • If you own a company then there may be some paperwork to be done.
  • If you are renting then you'll need to talk to your landlord or property manager
  • If you own a house you might need to talk to your city
  • Utility (Electricity, Gas, Internet, Mobile, etc.)
  • Your healthcare provider
  • Health/Life insurance
  • Property insurance
  • Voting registration
  • Bank Accounts - This requires new drivers license as ID
  • Credit Cards - Same as above.
  • Investment accounts (Broker, 401K, IRA)
  • Local public library card
  • Memberships like AAA, Costco, AARP, etc.

EDIT: There are several more additions I just thought of.

  • If you own a house or condo with home owner's association, you'll need them to update their records
  • if you have children, your daycare center or school will need their emergency contact updated

EDIT: The following don't pertain to me personally so I really don't know what is involved with name change. You should to do more research to find out for sure if they pertains to you.

  • If you are a certain licensed professional like doctor, lawyer, accountant, real-estate agent, electrician, plumber, etc. you may need to update those records
  • Firearm registration may need to be updated
  • if you are in your family member's will, those may need to be updated
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thelemmy.club

Damn that is a long list. First thought is thank you for taking the time to type it out, second thought is how crazy it is that married women just quietly swallow this additional burden. Saving this comment.

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No problem. The list was very easy to make since I just went through the process. Yes I agree that it's crazy practically every married women have to slog through the gauntlet of bureaucracy. I'm genuinely surprised I haven't heard more complaints from married women about it.

I hope I haven't discouraged you from going through the steps of changing your name. Social Security Card and Driver's License are the two that takes some time and effort but it's all down hill after that. Everything else is just tedious and not difficult at all. When you eventually hold your new documents with your new name in your hands, it will be well worth it. I won't spoil it for you but you'll feel it. Good luck!

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I've known people who've gone through the process. It's really a one step at a time thing and not as overwhelming as it sounds. A good resource though

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programming.dev

"Firstname". Not your first name again, but "Firstname", to mess with people looking for a software bug that led to that being in the data.

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leminal.space

For any advice post, there should be one thing that is most important: a clear description of the problem.

Otherwise, all advice is almost completely random/useless. Because maybe changing the name is the right solution, but maybe it isn't. There's no way to know.

In my opinion, there is no explanation of the problem at all here. You just say "too identifiable", however my name/lastname is probably also completely unique, yet I can't even think of a problem I would have with that.

So, what is the actual problem?

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For this particular post, I don't know that there needs to be a problem to get a response. OP could have just left out all of the back story and asked for new last name ideas. I think the story just adds a little context for the sake of conversation and to help scope potential reaponses. If it is for anonymity, just go with Smith.

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There’s a comment elsewhere that they were arrested in their youth but not charged for a crime and that record is the first thing found when searching their name.

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This also isn't an opinion community. That's asklemmy.

Or I guess maybe it is. Who knows. With no defined theme like it's subreddit namesake, it's just asklemmy2 at this point. Might as well make it a meme community, too

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lemmy.world

Find someone with the same first name as you and steal their last name

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If anonymity is your goal, then surely you wouldn't want a unique last name? you'd want Smith, Nguyen or Wang

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Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho

The only true good suggestion on here.

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I knew a couple that did this. Neither of them changed their names when they got married, and both their names were just weird. They wanted more professional-sounding names, FWIW.

I somewhat agree to explore the un-messed up spelling, but can see how that might not work. My friends just dug through family histories until they found one they liked. Settled on Snook. Worked for them.

Starting from scratch, I would start with syllables first to see what fits. It's either you want a mirroring of the syllables of the first name if you want something formidable and important-sounding, or a single syllable that is a stark punctuation if it suits you more.

A few examples:

2-syllable names might do better with 1 or 2 syllables - Maureen Star, Maureen Wright. Maureen Harper, Maureen Rivers flow well.

3 syllable names might work with up to 3 - Meredith Mackenzie. Meredith Lancaster.

You might also want a "job name" as other suggested as they are sort of ethnically neutral (other than being English) - many 2 syllables. Taylor, Harper, Archer, Tanner, Hunter, Sawyer, Driver, Wainwright, etc.

Or something you like in nature - Rivers, Forester, Woods, Fields, Bay, Mariner

If you go for 1 syllable, make it a word people know that pops. Knox. Hale. Quinn. Snow. Stone. Frost. Hart. Steele. Black. Night. Day.

Also, search online first to make sure that no one with the same name is a serial killer or something.

Best of luck!

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I think you should go with something strong, like Powers, Kingslayer, or Grimaxe. Your enemies aren't going to strike fear into themselves.

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Hope

A traditional English name that might fit well with your first name, easy to spell.
It's old English and means "small enclosed valley".

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piefed.social

If I was changing my name I would like it short and easy to spell and by that its obvious there is not wierd. I knew a person with the last name wolf and I thought that was awesome. its wolf spelt like the animal you can say on the phone. snow seems like it would be that way. I might say snow just like it sounds as I can't think of snow like the weather or like the percipitate sounds that good.

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adarzareply
lemmy.ca

if i was changing mine, i'd want something literally ungoogleable.. something so common it gets completely lost in the crowd.

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could have both. wolf is a little uncommon but smith is very common. Of course the issue with that name is the spelling which often has a y or e thrown in and like the profession may work but I dunno. feels a bit cumbersome.

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piefed.social

I go with shorter is better though. so one syllable better than two. With my first name Im asked what I prefer and I always respond with the one syllable version. Don't get me wrong. rabbit is still good.

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thelemmy.club

I graduated last month and I'm doing a research year before applying for residency so yes I do have my certification, but I am not in a place to give advice to others.

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I went into this field so I could wear PJs to work lol.

This is a whole nother post but the funding is not coming through and I think my lab at the cancer center might close. I've been begging my PhDs to go on the local news and kick up a little fuss, but they are camera-shy, and I would be comfortable being on camera but I don't have knowledge of the ins and outs the way they do. So nobody is comfortable and knowledgeable enough to be the face of our lab. We need a charismatic leader and can't find one amongst our ranks.

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Jerb322reply
lemmy.world

Dr Cox, it is then. Scrubs

What about a bird name like, Medowlark? How many syllables are we working with?

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lemmy.world

What's the first letter of your first name? Perfect chance for some alliteration. Esther Essington, Gretchen Gesundheit, etc.

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Khanzaratereply
lemmy.world

Hoarfrost is cold-themed. I think its unique but shouldn't raise too many eyebrows, and you get alliteration.

Hannah Hoarfrost, or Heather Hoarfrost, both sound neat. Does it sound good with your particular H name?

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Khanzaratereply
lemmy.world

Alliteration sounds great, mostly. Hanna Frost wouldn't sound as good as Hanna Hoarfrost, at least in my opinion.

And there aren't that many H cold words.

Plus, hoarfrost looks awesome, too.

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thelemmy.club

Hiver!!! It means winter in French! I don't care if people mispronounce it but omg it looks so good spelled out!

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Ooh it does. So yeah, options. Hiver would also be more subtle than Hoarfrost, less "Zephyr"

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Maybe you could develope it from your current name like from "Lin" to "Lindstrom" just to keep the connection if that makes sense.

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lemmy.world

Maybe find a historical figure with the same first name and take their last name, then if anyone searches you it gets drowned out by information on that person

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thelemmy.club

That is actually a really good idea because since I am the only person in the world with my exact name when you google me the police blotter about me being arrested is one of the top results. It sucks because I didn't do it but the stain is there. If I wanted to pick a famous person I'd have to have the last name Tubman or Beecher-Stowe and I don't love those, aesthetically.

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lemmy.world

Based on the last names you listed, there is a fictional character with your first name and the last name Winslow, though the spelling of the first name may differ. It would probably still be sufficient for the tactic to work, though of course you'd probably have to deal with people going "Oh, like the character from [show]?" which could get old pretty quick.

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I love that, it sounds so classy. I don't mind if people say things that get old. With my first name, I learned a long time ago to not get annoyed by it, because I would always get "like the spy?" I secretly think a little less of people who say that. Then again, I knew a guy, absolutely beautiful in a gay mysterious way, and told him he looked like a Twilight vampire, and he gave me this withering look and was like "Yeah, I've heard that." So I was the annoying one to someone else with the same problem ahshhahhfhhahhbhhhhhh

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I know a couple that equitably changed their last name to Morningstar. Bold, easy to spell, and it is translated from the real German surname Morgenstern, so it’s a real old-world name. You could do something similar and go with Olga Wintersnow or Gretchen Summerday.

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I am not trying to stand out excessively. ... I don’t want something commonly mispronounced.

Me trying to come up with a new domain name for a website. Also add "easy to spell for 5th graders" to the list because repeating it to someone on the phone is painful sometimes and they still get it wrong.

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piefed.ca

fwiw family names in English come typically come from several sources. They may be place names (e.g. London), descriptions of places (e.g. Ford: a shallow place where you can cross a river), occupations (e.g. Smith), or the name of a family business (e.g. if your name is Fox, your ancestor likely owned a tavern with a name like The Fox & Whistle or something random). If it's an occupation that sounds too good to be true like King or Bishop, your ancestor was probably not royalty but served a royal estate.

Not that you need to follow any of that. Is there a Chinese ancestral name in your family you're aware of? Maybe you could get it's meaning and find a close English equivalent? I'm part Japanese myself, and Japanese family names are almost all of the descriptions of places variety. So say your name was Watanabe: a shallow place where you can cross a river. You might then choose to go with Ford as your English name? Just a thought.

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thelemmy.club

It would Chen in that case but I don't want to go too Chinese with the last name because I'm not fluent in Chinese and since I'm a doctor I don't want patients to assume I can speak Chinese. I have no problem with patients using any language and we have translation services, I just don't want them to book with me and be disappointed/confused.

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piefed.ca

Ooh that's a tricky one! I looked it up and the most common character for it is a verb meaning something like to arrange for display? Good luck finding an English equivalent to that! There is a 2nd meaning of "old or ancient" which sounds a little more promising, though I can't think of an English name with that meaning off the top of my head.

Apparently, Chen is the most common family name in Taiwan, and is really the same name as Chan, Tam, and Tran depending on where you live and what you speak. Not that that helps you any.

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thelemmy.club

I'm just glad you got to go down a rabbithole. I could riff off old and go with Gold, since that would be a great last name and a nice and convoluted backstory for my hypothetical offspring.

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Gold is a common Jewish last name. In the sense that names were anglicized (or Germanicized) to better blend in. However are non-denominative, avoiding trades and place names, and instead focus on simply colour and sometimes with a geographic feature added. Which is why you have so many Goldbergs and Greenbergs.

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Ha! That's a great idea!

Along those lines, have you considered the name Richmond? I ask a Chinese friend once why the Richmond district in Vancouver and the Richmond Hill suburbs of Toronto are basically China at this point. He said oh that's easy! Richmond sounds like "rich man" to the Chinese ear. Who wouldn't wanna live on Rich Man Hill?

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Namey McNameface, if you're looking for a middle name change too.

Edit: plenty of other suggestions for this already, just more proof it's a great name!!

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lemmy.zip

My last name makes me too identifiable. It is an Ellis Island misspelling that makes me the only person on this earth with my exact first and last name combo.

I used to think this, until someone on Facebook popped up with my name. They still feel like they cropped up (like some CIA cover name/id theft) because my brother worked in the Navy in the very town he worked in 20 years ago. But whatever.

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AA5Breply
lemmy.world

I used to think so as well, until apparently there’s another me in Chicago. He’s a bit older and a college professor

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lemmy.world

Ellis island misspelling

Reminds me of someone I knew who had a swear word in their last name. They changed it because every time someone saw the spelling they’d get laughed at.

Do you like your last name? If so Americanize it. If you don’t take Winter, although it’s at the end of the alphabet and you might have to wait longer for some things.

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I didn't even think about the alphabet problem! Now I'm definitely picking one in the early half because that would bug me a lot.

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lemmy.ca

My mom took my dads last name. My mom passed when I was a teen and I don't get along with my dad so in my 20s I changed my last name to my mother's maiden name.

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thelemmy.club

I don't get along with my dad either, I feel you. My mom's maiden is Chen and I don't look like a Chen so I can't. I guess I'll think about the things I love and make a portmanteau or just pick one good one.

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lemmy.ca

You're as much of a Chen as your mom is. If she's still around ask her what she thinks of the idea. If someone else doesn't like it, then they're the problem.

In any case, good luck!

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thelemmy.club

Thank you and I appreciate the sentiment. It's just like if someone comes in for Dr. Chen they might feel some type of way when they see me because I don't look Asian and need to call the translator. Maybe my last name should be Rootless or Rudderless

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lemmy.ca

Then have some fun. Lol.

Dr. Doctor

Dr. Cool

Dr. PHD

Dr. Einstein

Dr. Word related to what you do

In all honesty you're not going to pick your partner for their last name. If they are a Chen, for example, are you going to be worried about how it makes you look at work?

"Oh, its my dad/mom/parent last name. Sorry, I only speak English/Whatever"

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I reject the concept of automatically taking a partner's last name, as a woman. I also don't want my father's, for personal and professional reasons. It's wack that we have all collectively agreed that a woman trades ownership and a large part of her identity when married. He should have to do it. I know a woman with the last name Palo who changed her name to something I find ugly when she got married and it ticks me off. It's sexism for her to change it and not him, but we all ignore it?

I will change my name to a partner's if they have an awesome last name, but I can't wait on a hypothetical partner. I actually do know a couple women in my line of work who have ethnic last names that have confused patients. Einstein would be funny but I dare not.

Edit: that was a tangent sozz but I think Dr. Smart could be a good one

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piefed.social

You might as well set yourself up for success and use a name that people subconsciously associate with positive traits.
Someone suggested Hope, and it's a great name for a doctor.

So I suggest King, (Arm)strong, Grace, Smart, Good, or Harmon. Or perhaps something like Washington, Churchill, Franklin, Luther or Addams.

I also like Shepherd, even though I doubt it carries much subconscious weight nowadays.

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You're right, those are great suggestions! Dr. Shepherd was a character on Grey's anatomy tho so that's a hard no.

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If the issue is identifiability why not just change it to another, more common family name? Fix the misspelling so it's not as rare or change to your mother's maiden name. Or some of your grandparents.

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I thought I would change it with marriage

Then do it. Pick your celebrity crush, then get together with friends and family for a fake wedding and name change

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lemmy.world

I'm just here to say having a common name is really nice imo.

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Something that only famous historical people had a surname like:

  • Longshanks
  • Hardrada -Pendragon

Okay Those make you a bit identifiable but i love long double word ones like "longshanks" that sound enough like a common surname to pass scrutiny. Or Nightingale, i.e florence nightingale

I would also look at Scottish clan surnames on wikipedia or scotclans.com - lots of common ones there with overlap to English surnames, like Campbell and Cummings, but also rarer ones like McGregor. Possibly other cultures have a similar such list. Maybe don't go for spanish surnames if you want to avoid persecution from ICE, idk how bad things are in that regard.

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Its odd both the last names Winter and Shaw appear in my bloodline, though I carry my step fathers last name not these.

I too have wanted to change my last name, and have thought about it often. Id actually go back to my Great, great, grabdmothers name before she married, I think, but I dont know.

Shaw imo is ugly, but common. Winter or Winters is nice.

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lemmy.ca

Siobhan might be out since people will think iit is Si-Bohan instead of the correct pronunciation She-vaugn.

There is some good unique but easily spelt and pronounced Celtic names and mixed with a single syllable last name could make you plain and neutral like you want.

There is a YouTube channel with a guy saying Celtic names. Maybe hearing someone say the names would help sell you on one.

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hansoloreply
lemmy.today

My in-laws almost named my partner Siobhan. My first name is also unique and not intuitively spelled. We have a family joke about this name and my partner dodging a bullet.

If you've never dealt with regular people, outside Ireland, it would be an utter nightmare to say "last name is Shu-vahn, S, I, O..." and get cut of by O by aggressively stupid people who have already written down "Shuvaughn" and moved on. I've been told by people I don't know how to spell my own name, or that my first name is now something that sounds similar and is more familiar to them, and not what I'm telling them.

Only people with EU passports should ever mess with Celtic spellings of names.

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It was almost my sister's name. But they went with Gillian which apparently in the Americas is less common than Jillian.

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change it to "happy-adjustable-spanners" like that one guy did when he lost a bet 😄

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if you had the first name as austin, change the last to powers. i actually new a guy early in the pandemic , his name is austin powers.

ESTHER and gen.

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It's hard to say without knowing the first name, go with what sounds good together. Or use your first name as your last name. Olivia Olivia or Esther Esther.

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It would be useful if you gave us one or the other for inspiration.

If the uniqueness of your name is the problem, go with a common surname then.

Gretchen Brown Olga Smith Meredith Jones

Or pick a common surname that sounds similar to your current surname, or starts with the same letter?

Does your surname have a meaning? If so, use that as inspiration?

Use the same surname of someone you admire?

Ask your friends for inspiration, or test names with them and see what they think.

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