Who Wants Kamala Harris to Run?
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Exactly, she can't even beat a child rapist in an election.
If she wanted to run, she should be out there fighting facism. I'm not interested in voting for someone who's just letting all this shit happen.
I’ve only seen her when she wanted to sell her book on speed-running losing an election.
She could be on TV and podcasts, 24/7 presenting the alternative and pointing out all the ways Trump is breaking the law and conning the country.
Oh I'm sure she'll soon be speaking at some big universities (for money) and she'll probably also be at a few DNC events...maybe; possibly; ever.
Why would a centrist do that though?
She has no position from which to fight fascism.
She could be showing up to or even leading protests and marches, writing editorials and opinion columns, appearing on news channels and podcasts. She could be speaking out, rallying people in opposition. She could've shown up at any of the big protests this past year, posted comments on social media.
I have seen absolutely nothing from her this past year except a couple of tepid comments about maybe running for office again.
I get it: she had a high-profile job, was thrown into a crushing high-stakes election at the last minute, spent a lot of energy campaigning and got her hopes crushed. But she's had a year and a half to get over it, and there's still nothing.
The country needs a leader and a fighter. She's doing neither. Hard pass.
There is no DNC person out there fighting beside AOC. She does the work and I am with her for whatever office she runs for and I am all the way in the mountains of NC. My district is Tim Moore that Sméagol looking mother fucker. The NC DNC has done nothing to help the Democratic candidates in the western part of the state for years. Lakesha Womack is who the NC DNC is propping up and I have not seen or heard from her at any protest I have been to. I am sure no one in the 14th knows who she is outside of Gastonia. I digress.
She could be, and people would be telling her "You lost, shut up and go away."
She doesn't have the platform.
She doesn't have the platform because she threw it away. She was never a serious candidate to solve anything. She was never going to fight for the working class or the minorities, because in the end she cared more about selling a book than the people. She is the exact thing wrong with almost every single democrat politician. She cares more about what she can make, than what she can do.
No one just gives you a platform - you make it. You show up at whatever opportunity can find or make and say your thing - and she's not doing it. Hell, I've heard five times more anti-Trump / anti-regime stuff from Mark Hamill on Twitter/BlueSky than I have from her, and that's like one of the most low-effort things you can do, yet she hasn't made even one anti-whatever tweet a month. Hell, she wouldn't even have to do it herself, she could hire a part-time college student or something.
She's not tweeting, she's not on podcasts advocating for her positions, she's not on opinion shows or editorial pages saying "what's happening is wrong and here's a way to fix it". It's been dead silence from her for a year and a half.
If she's not willing to go out and fight for a job she's wanted for well over a decade, I can't trust her to fight for the things _I_ want.
You can't make a platform when people are not only not actively listening to you, but are actually telling you to shut up and sit down.
Did you see the reactions to her book?
I mean, Kamala Harris wants Kamala Harris to run
If she thinks running again is going to go well, she'd delusional.
So yes, Kamala Harris wants Kamala Harris to run.
The fact that there's even a whiff of Kamala running again is great evidence that we are so fucked and will continue to be so fucked.
To be fair, Hillary Clinton floated running again in 2020 and she never even launched that campaign. I don't think there's much intent behind this. I suppose it makes these former candidates feel special, or satiates some craving for attention :P
Good chance for 3rd party
The US has a 2-party system. Period. Until we change things in a constitutional convention, or a revolt of some kind, that won’t change.
There should be a constitutional convention every 50 years. The laws from 200+ years ago are somewhat stale and very susceptible to manipulation.
I've also thought a constitutional convention might be the only way to fix things.
But also, I think there's no way, practically speaking, that the right wing doesn't use that opportunity better than the left wing, to simply give us a new fascist constitution.
That the point of my comment
But there isn’t a good chance. That[’s] the point of my comment.
No, this is the time, we do or get completely fucked.
Netanyahu.
He's fine with any person who would be capable of being elected - US Government policy is to kiss Israel's ass regardless of which party is in charge. But a Republican would always be preferable to him.
Why did she run the first time? Why was she selected as VP after getting zero votes in the primary? Why was she pushed as the only option after Biden finally dropped out? Why is she still being discussed?
The fact that this is happening is showing that real decisions are being made without the voters being involved and whoever is making those decisions will win either way.
Also can someone post the article, it's paywalled.
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Cheers!
I want her to run... Far far away from here.
"Pokemon GO... The fuck away!"
All night and day, even though she couldn't get away.
Just stop already.
I want a real progressive to run is the main problem.
Republicans.
neoliberal, centrist Democrats.
But I guess I spelled Republican again.
Harris even in discussion is proof that the US has degraded to a one party government.
I'm a communist I think it'll be funny if she runs
good point. We can at least count on getting a few chuckles out of the next election, as the dems struggle to pretend to run, but then spectacularly lose and leave yet another giant shit on the bed for us to all sit in.
why not run a milquetoast loser again???
What's wrong? You don't like tax credits and genocide?
She knows she wouldn't win. Just wants to fundraise, lose and sell another book.
I'm telling you, Democrats don't care about winning at all
They needed someone out there on day 1 after the election to be the face and the presence of the DNC as a clear personality for the next run. Instead it’s likely you will get someone in the last five minutes.
Absolutely not. No more typical status quo corporate liberals.
Not it
This bitch lost the presidency to the worst piece of shit on the face of the planet. Why in the fuck does she think she has any chance trying to run again?
LITERALLY NO ONE! STOP TRYING TO MAKE THIS BULLSHIT HAPPEN!
NOONE WANTS GAVIN NEWSOME EITHER. FUCK CA POLITICS.
I don't care if she runs again, I want the people to vote in the primaries and elect a better nominee.
I think so little of American voters that I just assume the democrats could pick any white man and win. For whatever reason, a large portion (i.e., the uneducated) of the American public is too sexist to vote for a female democratic president. The minute the republicans put one forward as a serious candidate, suddenly then it will be great.
Same. At least 2/3 of voters wouldn't vote for a minority woman. Acknowledge that first, then you can change.
She can run if she wants, but I can think of at least 5 better choices: Kelly, Warren, Buttigieg, AOC, Walz, and a bunch more.
Kelly and Warren are my top choices. AOC should do a turn in the Senate first.
Real question:
What would AOC gain by spending time in the Senate?
Or how specifically would it make her a better candidate?
Regan, Clinton, Bush, Bush Jr, and Rump never spent time in the Senate.
She is super fucking smart, and she could probably do a killer job right now, but the next Dem Prez needs to be a serious warrior that progressive fighters can respect and follow, and the MAGA enemy can fear. They just aren't going to do that with AOC at this point, she's too young. She can inspire a following, but not fear. We need someone that has the courage to crush MAGA, and inspire a following to help, and I think that could be Kelly.
Once MAGA has been purged, we will have to reconfigure our government for the future, and having AOC leading the Senate, with an equally committed progressive in the House, could accomplish ground-breaking legislation like FDR's New Deal or LBJ's Great Society, put guardrails on conservative Sedition, and put us on a proper path for the future,
She's going to be an AMAZING president someday, but I would like her to have some seriously deep experience and connections before that, perhaps even including a Cabinet post. Imagine her becoming president with that sort of experience behind her?
Right now, Kelly seems like the kind of guy that MAGAs are going to have a hard time fighting against. The guy is an actual, genuine, bona fide war hero AND an astronaut. Exactly the kind of guy MAGAs would drool over. Put him up against a dweeb like Vance? In a debate? Kelly will siphon off at least 25% of MAGA votes.
I do. She wasn’t just the only candidate who was not an evil egocentric conman, but would have continued policies for the long term improvement in the country.
My biggest complaint against Biden policies was this country is too schizophrenic for policies that build over a long term. Another 4 years might have gotten the ball rolling enough so they couldn’t be turned back. Meanwhile back in the real world, most were canceled after spending huge amounts of money but before we could see any benefit
Yes, she would have been the better choice, but that's in the past. Why would you want her to run again now when she's already been rejected by voters? Trump was able to do it because the GOP is a cult. Dems are not.
She's a loser hasbeen with no following. Couldn't even win a primary. She will lose in 28 (if she can actually make it to the general election, which she can't)
Technically true: she's an evil, egocentric conWOman.
Fixed it for you.
Should be good..
Ffs 🤦🏻
That's not how skizophrenia, politics, or countries work 🙄
never should have run her in the first place
biden should have stayed in, won, and stepped aside
Hilarious take. Biden's campaign was over the second he stumbled onto that debate stage. They might as well have started writing the autopsy then
Agreed. He should have stepped out of the race long before then. Hubris.
My controversial opinion is that if he'd never run in the first place and made sure Harris played a significant role in his administration, she could have had a shot at winning it with a full campaign. If she were a white male it would have maybe even been easy. The Democrats will never run a truly progressive candidate, and as proven in Kentucky this week the over 60 voting block still matters most.
And yes, if you can't tell I have absolutely no hope for US politics. But I'll still at least vote for whoever isn't the fascist every time.
I think the problem is they tried this. Kamala was frontlined initially by the Biden admin. She was crazy unpopular, a bad public speaker, and really terrible off the cuff on questions. She's just a very poor politician, or maybe a politico from an era that doesn't exist anymore.
The most support she had was when Biden dropped, before she talked. If Biden had dropped later and the elation and excitement that was generated by him dropping out was carried into the general, Kamala wins imo.
I keep hearing she needed more time, no. She needed less time, the country had forgotten she sucked when Biden dropped, she had plenty of time to remind them.
Why? Trump has done far worse and they give him a pass.
Trump is a cult leader. Biden is not.
Do you think Joe could have won again?
Only if they tricked Trump into another debate while Joe was on a lot of coke. At which point he would have had to step down right after the election anyway, due to his heart giving out.
Joe never should have ran for a second term, and he should have known better than to try it.
Originally, didn’t he claim he was not going to?
I’m dubious he could have pulled it off, the feelings in groups I follow were.. not good. He was too old, too ‘establishment’, there was no excitement.
I guess we can’t know now, but when Kamala was announced there at least was some excitement. You know, before her campaign started actively sabotaging itself.
He said he was only going to do one term really early on. Then once in office, that pipe dream evaporated. It was pretty much just some remarks during the campaign against Trump.
As for pulling it off, he probably could have, just barely. Not that he had any more enthusiasm from anyone, but he would have kept a bigger part of the elderly vote who knew him well. At least if were able to stand up on stage with Trump and be lucid. My bet is that could only happen with a fairly heavy drug cocktail, that would lead to serious health problems fairly quickly. He fell apart right after the election anyway, so it very well might have killed him on the spot.
No, he never said that. Anonymous people said that they thought he would, and when journalists immediately asked Biden he said he had no plans for running one term. No one remembers what Biden said, and for some reason take as gospel what anonymous people thought someone else would do.
I've heard this repeated so many times yet I've never heard those words come out of his mouth. Do you have a video?
They're not going to have video because he never said that.
It stems from this Politico article in which anonymous people express their personal opinions about what someone else should do and for some reason everyone believes it was Biden personally making a pledge.
It was anonymous members of his campaign. They never said it on camera because he never wanted to take a position on it, and no one really pressed it enough.
I firmly believe he would have stayed out if Trump hadn't been on the ticket. All they needed to do was have a justice department willing to put his ass away and Joe would have gone "My work here is done!" and rode off into the sunset.
And who's fucking fault was that?!
So he was to old and denial. Yet trump talked about a penis for 15 minutes just started dancing. Could tiu imagine if Burden did ant of those. But with trump it just gets waved away.
Before that debate, I would have said yes. After, no way.
As much as I wish this could have happened, Joe's chances were even worse than hers. Every time he got behind a podium, his polling numbers dove even further.
Wtf. Biden's brain was as cooked as Trump's, if not worse.
Many Americans can't deal with a woman candidate for President much less a minority as well, it's as simple as that.
Know what you are and stay between the lines. Put a white man upfront if you wanna win.
As a Kamala voter most people I know chose to not vote because she's a cop(DA is close enough) and genocide supporter..
The sort of people willing to vote in someone who's neither white or a man, aren't willing to vote in another useless do-nothing neolib.
Fucking run AOC. NO ONE UNDER 40 WANTS NEOLIBERALISM. Its not fucking hard dude. We want free medical care and UBI. We want billionaires to stop existing.
But yeah continue to ignore literally everyone who decided not to vote, I'm sure that will get them to the polls next time around.
Like JFC, progressives have a popular enough platform to get a man of Islamic faith to smoke the NYC Mayoral Election like no ones business. Open your fucking eyes.
2/3 of the voters didn't vote for Kamala and effectively voted, not voting is a vote, against their own interests. For many of them, it wasn't about the policies or what her position was. It was because she was a minority woman.
If you don't acknowledge the fact that many Americans are either misogynists, racists, or both, nothing will change.
Of course a giant chunk of people are bigots. They're called trump voters, and anyone they'd elect is someone not worth electing.
The people we need are the ones who didn't vote, and they overwhelming talk about specific policy issues with Kamala, they saw Trump as a non-starter because he's a bigoted greedy piece of shit.
Non voters caused all the problems, and most people bitching on Lemmy/reddit did not vote.
Yeah that's my point. If you run someone the non-voters want to vote for THEY'LL ACTUALLY GO OUT AND VOTE.
Its crazy what actually having a personal incentive to vote will do.
The DNCs blatant ignoring of every issue relevant to voters (including genocide support) has managed to make a "D" by any candidates name an actual hindrance to winning these days. The Democratic party brand is about as trashed as it could possibly be. "I" is what people want to see next to a candidates name.
No one under 40 votes, so AOC is irrelevant.
Yeah its almost like people who don't have candidates that represent them don't want to vote.
I WONDER HOW WE COULD FUCKING FIX THAT?!?!
Like Jesus Christ dude, how cognitively nearsighted are you?
I'm tired of this argument. It's a bit baseless. Americans are fine with women in politics. There are many who get elected in both parties. Republicans, the party of sexism, fkn loved Sarah Palin
Americans don't like genocide. Americans don't like prosecutors. Americans don't like phony squares who talk down to them with means-testing and tax credits
You are getting down voted for the truth. USA loves their leader pale, male and stale and would rather vote some demented grandpa over a woman. A woman of any color? Look how the US got triggered with Obama to civil war.
TLDR; the next election will not change much.