Are you kidding me? Scotland would be cheering if they could torch the golf courses. Especially Trump's. During his last regime, somebody in the crowd of protesters threw a bag of Cheetos at him when he went to his golf course. Smacked him right in the face IIRC.
I'm not from Scotland and I haven't looked into the history of the sport, though I believe you're right that it came from Scotland, but one thing I do know is that there is not a lot of wilderness left there and the Scottish absolutely hate Trump as one of the people destroying what natural landscape they have left with his golf course.
Lived a few years in Aberdeen, the birthplace of golf.
over there it makes sense. That grass grows naturally, everyone has a golf court at a walking distance, fun sociable walk (about 9 to 18km of walking), carts are practically banned there. it isn't a rich hobby.
On a nice day you can see everyone golfing, even if it is a couple kids with a couple of clubs (no need for a whole set which you still have to carry).
It's a genuine people's sport.
Everywhere else? where you need lots of water and land to maintain, and it's only for rich cunts with golf carts? fuck that.
that makes a lot of sense. colonization and rich flaunting has the effect of transposing things to where they make no sense and requires destruction to make work at all. example that comes to my mind is how cheap concrete and steel construction being imposed on third world countries by its neocolonizers, places where its expensive to create and makes construction worse bc its not suitable for every environment. and the rich of third world countries picking glass metal generic skyscrapers to flaunt their wealth, constructing them in places where its horrible
That reminds me of when I was a kid and I and my family would play the home-made hybrid game "croquet golf" on our (very uneven) lawn. It was really fun. Essentially, it was golf rules with croquet equipment. My dad dug nine holes in our lawn for that game.
Honestly I look at golf as a different sport entirely here in the US. It's all about exclusive clubs, racist segregation, flagrant wasting of resources to benefit a tiny minority, and often using public funds to subsidize a shitty sport so rich people can pay less for their racist bullshit.
I do wonder how the average scotsman feels because your perspective from living there a few years doesn't really tell us the entire story, just your POV.
didn't say Scotland, said Aberdeen, look at the map, there's like 6 full golf courses within the city, no matter where you live in the city, there's always a course within walking distance. not sure about the rest of Scotland.
probably, don't want to get into exactly what's natural or not. but it has plenty of grass dunes seas, put in a few sheep and you have perfect grass for golf.
Virtual golf is a thing now. It's like a giant video game.
Basically, you hit a ball into a projection screen. It has fancy laser trackers that works out direction, distance and spin. You can even select to play famous courses anywhere in the world, where they'd never let you in, and you couldn't afford anyways.
Doesn't take much room at all. Indoors with all the creature comforts
me and my dad talked about this a couple days ago, my favourite part is that you can literally just cut down a few choice trees to create a disc golf course, so they're lovely places to be in as well.
Meanwhile golf courses give me a migraine from all the open unshaded space..
not that i dont agree, but boring games are allowed to exist. the issue is the racism, elitism, colonization of land, waste and abuse of water and resources
Like, put some life sized Tyranosaur statues out in the middle of the fairway. Want to get on the green? Drive it 100 yards though the nostril of a giant fiberglass clown, or go around and chip through the sand traps full of spiders.
Nah, let's have MAXI GOLF! The drive is accompanied by fireworks and flamethrowers. The fairway shoots duplicate balls that are slightly green in color. At least one section allows for a tackle. Before you can putt on the green you have to spin around on your club fifty times and there are three holes, two of which will launch your ball in the air. The real one shoots out a rainbow beam when you get the ball in the hole. When you finish you get a giant check. Sure it's just for getting some Chuck E Cheese level prizes, but hey, it's a giant check.
I'm in favour of everything except fifty times. Too many, that'd get old, and slow things down, which is against the spirit of MAXIGOLF.
Instead, you have to putt using a club that has a working shakeweight attached to it for the first five shots. After that you can turn off the shakeweight but it will spray glitter paint on you.
Could be, but everyone's opinion of what's boring is different.
Have you ever had to watch an American Football match? Besides very little actual foot on ball action (it was more like rugby but with lots of padding, fair enough, but at least change the name so it's not so misleading), they kept constantly stopping every 30 seconds or so to have a little meeting, and for their like... 3 or 4 referees to have a chat and move some flagpoles around.
It was SOOOOO boring! It went on for HOURS because they constantly would stop for little meetings, interrupting the flow of the action every time it started to maybe get slightly interesting.
The only saving grace was that the weather was nice, there was an easily accessible bar, and in the field behind the pitch there was a local radio controlled aircraft event, so while the players were milling about not playing - which again was so very boring and frequent - I could watch the cool remote controlled planes and stuff and have a pint.
Anyway, my point is, one person's ultimate excitement is another person's ultimate bore-fest.
Golf is actually so off-putting sometimes because have you seen the average enjoyer? It's like every frat guy, crypto bro and racist pool guys favorite hobby
I'm also convinced 90% of the players just want to walk around and drink outside.
The only person I know that play golf do it because he's in real state and doing golf is "good to meet clients and close businesses". He didn't even enjoy it, it's work meetings for him.
And then of course the weirdest variant of all is capitalist golf, where it can only be played on scrupulously maintained private property and you have to pay like $1800 per year for access.
Your gold club has an access fee? How pedestrian. Ours is a private golf club only open to shareholders to ensure that only the right people can access it, and none of those new money creeps can make it in
I've alienated many relatives by responding to things lie this with "LMAO that's exactly how a dumb shit republican thinks! Damn, I didn't know you could be this funny!" or something along those lines.
Oddly, they never seem to respond unless it's like 3 months later at a family gathering when they have had time to think of a reply...
Honestly, I'd like to think there's a middle ground where we place golf courses in more ethically sound locations. Right now, a lot of courses are just gigantic resource sinks sitting on real-estate that could be put to better use.
Better to place then on land reclaimed from strip mining, cemeteries, or other low-productivity locations.
There's at least one course in my area that uses the income to help the surrounding nature. Plus they have strict rules regarding what areas you're allowed to go during bird breeding seasons
Arguably the worst part would be the large area of grass. But even that is mostly offset by them maintaining the somewhat "wild" spots between the courses and the area being grassy to begin with
They are also quite affordable, so it's not a snobby rich club. So it's basically a nice way for people to enjoy nature and walk around more
I've never understood why golf couldn't have different terrain (in the way that tennis does). Wouldn't it make golf more interesting if you had to play on a clay course? I feel like this would make sense in places like Arizona. Adapt the sport to the environment.
While I agree wholeheartedly, it has one fundamental problem: dirt. If there's one thing that golf courses aren't, it's dirty. The sport has a lot of class and image tied up in it, and I highly doubt that you'll get many of those folks out into the clay like that. You'd be creating a whole new extreme form of golf, instead.
Good, if a bunch of prissy pissant profligates get fucked over all the better. If ya want to play golf go somewhere where the environment can actually support the original course type, if I want to camp in the woods I don't try to terra form the local regional park into a forest I go to the mountains where there are more than 2 trees per square yard.
Fun fact: Che played golf. Story goes that he taught Casto how to play because he was set to meet with Eisenhower and golf is where he did his diplomacy. Castro was looking for US support for the revolution. Nixon interceded and wound up putting Castro in the other group... which included the Russian Ambassador.
You know what I was just going to accept capitalism as is for the rest of my life but now I'm a radical leftist. Whoever made this meme took it just a step too far.
Sames, imagine if they left just one course per municipality (minus where they don't make sense, like the desert where there's just way too many anyways). Drive all the carts into a recycling center and force everyone to walk? Great way to keep, especially older people, moving.
You can tell them, that Communism is long dead and no one in Iran gives any shits about it. They don't want communism. They want religious and cultural identity with full-scale nationalism. They could have long joined the Russian or Chinese bloc by now. They already had their working civilian fission reactors by now if they did. But they are too proud to be a vassal. They want to be their own bloc.
Early on, Iran's revolution was explicitly socialist in nature. That got subsumed pretty quick by the clerics taking over, but they still followed a lot of socialism in the way they structured their society.
Oddly enough, it's the rising global temperature that is, long term, the greatest threat to golf.
Personally, I think we should adapt the game to play on a variety of terrains instead of just grass. Use native ground cover, that sort of thing. It would both keep things interesting and help the ecosystem.
Whoa! That kind of attitude won't stop communism. Once they come for one sport they will come for others. It's like the old saying says, "first they came for golf, and I said nothing because I did not golf"
Golf may be lost forever? Like the communists are going to erase this post and my comment from the internet, for good? Are the communists in the room with you right now, sir, ma'am, zir?
jeez you don't have to sell it to me harder.
dont have to share it to me harder #communist
what I would pay to live in that dream....
RIP Scotland.
Are you kidding me? Scotland would be cheering if they could torch the golf courses. Especially Trump's. During his last regime, somebody in the crowd of protesters threw a bag of Cheetos at him when he went to his golf course. Smacked him right in the face IIRC.
I'm totally in for burning Trump courses. But didn't golf originate there? I figured it would be a cultural thing. Did you all get tired of it?
I'm not from Scotland and I haven't looked into the history of the sport, though I believe you're right that it came from Scotland, but one thing I do know is that there is not a lot of wilderness left there and the Scottish absolutely hate Trump as one of the people destroying what natural landscape they have left with his golf course.
We don't need healthcare as long as the rich can play golf.
only if the rich touched the grass they played on
Especially with all the pesticides and fertilizer in those lawns. Might get rid of a few sooner.
Dude's uncle isn't rich.
Lived a few years in Aberdeen, the birthplace of golf.
over there it makes sense. That grass grows naturally, everyone has a golf court at a walking distance, fun sociable walk (about 9 to 18km of walking), carts are practically banned there. it isn't a rich hobby.
On a nice day you can see everyone golfing, even if it is a couple kids with a couple of clubs (no need for a whole set which you still have to carry).
It's a genuine people's sport.
Everywhere else? where you need lots of water and land to maintain, and it's only for rich cunts with golf carts? fuck that.
that makes a lot of sense. colonization and rich flaunting has the effect of transposing things to where they make no sense and requires destruction to make work at all. example that comes to my mind is how cheap concrete and steel construction being imposed on third world countries by its neocolonizers, places where its expensive to create and makes construction worse bc its not suitable for every environment. and the rich of third world countries picking glass metal generic skyscrapers to flaunt their wealth, constructing them in places where its horrible
That reminds me of when I was a kid and I and my family would play the home-made hybrid game "croquet golf" on our (very uneven) lawn. It was really fun. Essentially, it was golf rules with croquet equipment. My dad dug nine holes in our lawn for that game.
Honestly I look at golf as a different sport entirely here in the US. It's all about exclusive clubs, racist segregation, flagrant wasting of resources to benefit a tiny minority, and often using public funds to subsidize a shitty sport so rich people can pay less for their racist bullshit.
I do wonder how the average scotsman feels because your perspective from living there a few years doesn't really tell us the entire story, just your POV.
didn't say Scotland, said Aberdeen, look at the map, there's like 6 full golf courses within the city, no matter where you live in the city, there's always a course within walking distance. not sure about the rest of Scotland.
I bet the lower parts of Scotland (and probably most of the higher areas, too) was forest before humans started cultivating it.
probably, don't want to get into exactly what's natural or not. but it has plenty of grass dunes seas, put in a few sheep and you have perfect grass for golf.
Karl Marx Capital Volume 2 page 420 "fuck them golfers."
“From each according to his handicap” x69marxnoscope69x
Good
Good. Golf is fucking stupid and requires huge amounts of space that could be used for parks instead
That's capitalist golf.
Good, ethical golf of the proletariat happens anywhere you can place a can and the worse the terrain, the better the game.
Getting the ball up into the can is quite a challenge, innit?
Virtual golf is a thing now. It's like a giant video game.
Basically, you hit a ball into a projection screen. It has fancy laser trackers that works out direction, distance and spin. You can even select to play famous courses anywhere in the world, where they'd never let you in, and you couldn't afford anyways.
Doesn't take much room at all. Indoors with all the creature comforts
Disc golf is superior
me and my dad talked about this a couple days ago, my favourite part is that you can literally just cut down a few choice trees to create a disc golf course, so they're lovely places to be in as well.
Meanwhile golf courses give me a migraine from all the open unshaded space..
On day one of my presidency I will abolish all forms of golf except mini. Don't vote for me but pls abolish golf
Hey, you leave disc golf alone.
I'd like to keep just one golf course but add giant versions of mini golf obstacles. Golfers would probably hate it but they need some more whimsy
not that i dont agree, but boring games are allowed to exist. the issue is the racism, elitism, colonization of land, waste and abuse of water and resources
100%. Honestly, some of my favorite games are boring ass games.
If golf went inclusive and solar punk tomorrow, I still wouldn't play cuz I'm really bad at it. But I also would have no more complaints.
mini golf is where its at
We need Golf, but its Mini Golf.
Like, put some life sized Tyranosaur statues out in the middle of the fairway. Want to get on the green? Drive it 100 yards though the nostril of a giant fiberglass clown, or go around and chip through the sand traps full of spiders.
Nah, let's have MAXI GOLF! The drive is accompanied by fireworks and flamethrowers. The fairway shoots duplicate balls that are slightly green in color. At least one section allows for a tackle. Before you can putt on the green you have to spin around on your club fifty times and there are three holes, two of which will launch your ball in the air. The real one shoots out a rainbow beam when you get the ball in the hole. When you finish you get a giant check. Sure it's just for getting some Chuck E Cheese level prizes, but hey, it's a giant check.
I'm in favour of everything except fifty times. Too many, that'd get old, and slow things down, which is against the spirit of MAXIGOLF.
Instead, you have to putt using a club that has a working shakeweight attached to it for the first five shots. After that you can turn off the shakeweight but it will spray glitter paint on you.
What if the ball is one of those things you see at the flea market that looks like it has a weasel attached to it?
It has an off-balance weight in it. I think it's supposed to be a cat toy.
That got dark. Why not just have to smuggle the ball to the hole hiding it in your ass through a Vietnam War era POW camp.
Could be, but everyone's opinion of what's boring is different.
Have you ever had to watch an American Football match? Besides very little actual foot on ball action (it was more like rugby but with lots of padding, fair enough, but at least change the name so it's not so misleading), they kept constantly stopping every 30 seconds or so to have a little meeting, and for their like... 3 or 4 referees to have a chat and move some flagpoles around.
It was SOOOOO boring! It went on for HOURS because they constantly would stop for little meetings, interrupting the flow of the action every time it started to maybe get slightly interesting.
The only saving grace was that the weather was nice, there was an easily accessible bar, and in the field behind the pitch there was a local radio controlled aircraft event, so while the players were milling about not playing - which again was so very boring and frequent - I could watch the cool remote controlled planes and stuff and have a pint.
Anyway, my point is, one person's ultimate excitement is another person's ultimate bore-fest.
They're all called "football" because the players are on foot. If they were mounted it would be polo.
But the object they carry and throw and such can hardly be called a "ball" at all. It's more like a symmetrical egg.
They're somewhat testicle shaped, aka "balls", hence "ball".
Football should be called soccer, and football should be called gridiron.
The reason that they stop so frequently is for the ads on television/streaming.
Golf is actually so off-putting sometimes because have you seen the average enjoyer? It's like every frat guy, crypto bro and racist pool guys favorite hobby
I'm also convinced 90% of the players just want to walk around and drink outside.
The only person I know that play golf do it because he's in real state and doing golf is "good to meet clients and close businesses". He didn't even enjoy it, it's work meetings for him.
Whats wrong about walking around and drinking outside?
That's because everyone can do it. But rich people want to do stuff only they can do so that they can distance themselves from us peasants.
Nice pun. You got it down to a tee
Do you play golf, or just going off stereotypes? It feels like you way overdouchified the people who just want to walk around and drink outside
I'd call it 50/50
That's why I play and it's awesome
Golf courses can fight AI data centers for water
and the loser is 99% of humans 🥳
Communist golf is where everyone shares the same ball and has to dodge cowpats in the communal pasture as they play.
Anarchocommunist golf is where you spend the day trying to track down the golf clubs someone took from the communal tool shed without telling anyone.
And then of course the weirdest variant of all is capitalist golf, where it can only be played on scrupulously maintained private property and you have to pay like $1800 per year for access.
Your gold club has an access fee? How pedestrian. Ours is a private golf club only open to shareholders to ensure that only the right people can access it, and none of those new money creeps can make it in
Every golfer should be forced to use the same equipment. P2W bullshit ass game.
Communism is when everybody shares 1 club (its a 4-iron)
Agreed! Also, the exclusivity of many golf courses is the ultimate P2W flex here. Communism would end country clubs, not the game.
I've alienated many relatives by responding to things lie this with "LMAO that's exactly how a dumb shit republican thinks! Damn, I didn't know you could be this funny!" or something along those lines.
Oddly, they never seem to respond unless it's like 3 months later at a family gathering when they have had time to think of a reply...
If someone wanted to turn all golf courses into community farms they would have my vote.
one of the local Green Party members here in Australia wanted to do that.
Wow, I thought I was sold with communism as is, but now you add the eradication of golf??
Honestly, I'd like to think there's a middle ground where we place golf courses in more ethically sound locations. Right now, a lot of courses are just gigantic resource sinks sitting on real-estate that could be put to better use.
Better to place then on land reclaimed from strip mining, cemeteries, or other low-productivity locations.
There's at least one course in my area that uses the income to help the surrounding nature. Plus they have strict rules regarding what areas you're allowed to go during bird breeding seasons
Arguably the worst part would be the large area of grass. But even that is mostly offset by them maintaining the somewhat "wild" spots between the courses and the area being grassy to begin with
They are also quite affordable, so it's not a snobby rich club. So it's basically a nice way for people to enjoy nature and walk around more
It's possible. Sadly the minority
I've never understood why golf couldn't have different terrain (in the way that tennis does). Wouldn't it make golf more interesting if you had to play on a clay course? I feel like this would make sense in places like Arizona. Adapt the sport to the environment.
While I agree wholeheartedly, it has one fundamental problem: dirt. If there's one thing that golf courses aren't, it's dirty. The sport has a lot of class and image tied up in it, and I highly doubt that you'll get many of those folks out into the clay like that. You'd be creating a whole new extreme form of golf, instead.
Good, if a bunch of prissy pissant profligates get fucked over all the better. If ya want to play golf go somewhere where the environment can actually support the original course type, if I want to camp in the woods I don't try to terra form the local regional park into a forest I go to the mountains where there are more than 2 trees per square yard.
You're describing putt-putt golf.
Fun fact: Che played golf. Story goes that he taught Casto how to play because he was set to meet with Eisenhower and golf is where he did his diplomacy. Castro was looking for US support for the revolution. Nixon interceded and wound up putting Castro in the other group... which included the Russian Ambassador.
Oh no. Not the golf. Anything but that.
oh the horrors /s
FUCK YEAH
If you haven't seen George Carlin's bit on golfing, stop whatever you're doing and give it a watch.
You know what I was just going to accept capitalism as is for the rest of my life but now I'm a radical leftist. Whoever made this meme took it just a step too far.
So there is no downside then? Fantastic!
Well what are we waiting for?
people to unite
I'm a communist and I love golf ! I just want it (and everything else) to be managed collectively.
Is that really too much to ask ?
Sames, imagine if they left just one course per municipality (minus where they don't make sense, like the desert where there's just way too many anyways). Drive all the carts into a recycling center and force everyone to walk? Great way to keep, especially older people, moving.
Golf in the desert makes sense, but then it ought to be based on the local plant life, not Scotland.
They're right
I want this on a t-shirt.
Did you know you were related to a Communist before this?
And little of value will be lost...
You can tell them, that Communism is long dead and no one in Iran gives any shits about it. They don't want communism. They want religious and cultural identity with full-scale nationalism. They could have long joined the Russian or Chinese bloc by now. They already had their working civilian fission reactors by now if they did. But they are too proud to be a vassal. They want to be their own bloc.
But do they play golf at the Gulf?
LIV has had to cancel a lot of tournaments XD
What does Iran have to do with this?
Early on, Iran's revolution was explicitly socialist in nature. That got subsumed pretty quick by the clerics taking over, but they still followed a lot of socialism in the way they structured their society.
that looks like garlic in the thumbnail
aha you're right ! still does if I squint at the big image
garlic grass would be better to grow :3
The Saudi monarchy ditched LIV, so it's actually capitalism and specifically oil money that are destroying golf.
Oddly enough, it's the rising global temperature that is, long term, the greatest threat to golf.
Personally, I think we should adapt the game to play on a variety of terrains instead of just grass. Use native ground cover, that sort of thing. It would both keep things interesting and help the ecosystem.
Have communists ever started their position on the game of golf?
It's such a wasteful use of land that is used pretty much exclusively by the bourgeoisie, so I imagine they don't really need to.
Does that relative even play?
Whoa! That kind of attitude won't stop communism. Once they come for one sport they will come for others. It's like the old saying says, "first they came for golf, and I said nothing because I did not golf"
"First they came for pedophiles, and I said nothing because I'm not a pedophile." Still waiting for things to kick off TBH.
Would
Tell them to stop playing a leftist socialist sport. The Scots will come for them with healthcare and environmentalism
Golf may be lost forever? Like the communists are going to erase this post and my comment from the internet, for good? Are the communists in the room with you right now, sir, ma'am, zir?