Spyke
Peterssonreply
feddit.org

Claudering?

E: It's just the same as "to google" at this point.

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rosco385reply
lemmy.wtf

You just know most people would pronounce it "foxgramming" and not get it.

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"Aggressively de-skilling while simultaneously shitting out tech debt"

Doesn't roll off the tongue as well, though.

"Slopping"

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lemmy.ml

isn't vibe coding a term that comes from the ai bros themselves first? We would've used slop coding lol

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Yeah, but the real developers regard it with disdain. I guess he thinks its only an image problem and a rebrand will fix it.

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They literally accidentally open-sourced it, because they vibe code their devops. They have unusually low server uptime, because they vibe code their infrastructure. These jokes write themselves.

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This is just so fitting.

I keep getting merge requests now from people that their whole job to date had been too scared by the syntax to try coding.

It's almost always a shotgun of way too many lines of code changed for a small thing, often with horrible side effects that would be unacceptable.

Someone wanted to tweak the CSS layout of one element, what should have been a one line change. The pull request had hundreds of css changes, basically touching everything. Clearly the model had started changing things and he kept saying it didn't do it yet until finally it did and it never rolled back anything it did, including many of the rules being repeated 5 times in a row in the same place..

They felt like AI was making them so helpful because they could submit a code change directly instead of just asking for what they want. They proudly said "AI told me:" and then explain the brilliance of the AI finding. One time the AI finding was addressed over 6 months prior, the AI never thought to update the software, but instead proposed a really crap workaround that would have failed to cover a whole class of similar scenarios while simultaneously imposing crazy side effects on scenarios that weren't tested.

I can use AI too, please just send me what you would have sent to the AI, and if AI can do it, I could use the AI. If you think the AI will figure out how you are using something wrong and don't want to bother/wait for a human to help, fine, but if it gets to what it thinks is a software bug, just rewind and start from your problem statement when you come to me...

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Oh no, yet another slop marketeer (CxO, whatever) is unhappy that we're treating their cash cow with derision. How awful for you.

Pipe down and go back to your clankwanking.

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Who gives a flying fuck what terms one asshole is sick of? Fuck him, fuck vibe coding and trying to enforce language that appeals to what "elite" dipshits like.

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"Call it what you like, you're still going to need us" Code.

It's just really high level BASIC with much looser syntax. It doesn't mean my boss could use it, any more than they could use the "no code" rubbish, BASIC, C, Fortran or Assembly that came before it.

If your job was taking really detailed technical specifications and turning it into something a computer can read, then you might be in trouble. But my job was always deciphering the nonsense amalgamations of customers, sales people, and managers, figuring out what the actual requirement is, determine the simplest thing that could handle that, and write it in such a way that the inevitable changes that they request won't be too painful to add.

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  • Subscription coding.
  • It looks like you're writing an app. Can I help you with that?
  • CrappyCodey
  • Clueless coding
  • Klutz code
  • Mañana coding
  • Brain-free coding
  • Developerless development
  • Self-driving systems
  • Humanity-free development
  • If claude can do this it can replace management next
  • Claude codepirated
  • Good luck copywriting this intellectual property theft
  • AI pwned
  • I never really understood the codebase in the first place
  • Blagger's code
  • I'm so much more valuable to my employer now that I've outsourced all that tedious thinking, understanding and creating I used to do.
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lemmy.world

Vibe coding will do just fine. I understand your concern over your product and its reputation but I don't really share that with you.

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It's better to see "vibe coders" think they're doing something cool rather than shameful. It'd be way easier to spot them like that (and prepare mentally for "their" code)

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  • Slopcoding
  • Codeslopping
  • Spaghetticoding
  • "Good luck trying to figure this out in 2 years" Coding
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doxreply
lemmy.world

I really like this one! It fits well

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Thanks! I think it sounds better than it spells but the spirit is there

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LOL. I was thinking like a cobbler that makes shoes, and the phrase "cobbled together". But yeah, now I can't unsee it either and that's even funnier :)

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lemmy.world

I like to pronounce it very German in my environment, which becomes Klaut Kot. Steals Feces. It's quite fitting tbh.

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Before reading your explanation, to me, Klaut Kot sounded more like some deftige Gericht!

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sopuli.xyz

Script Kiddie is the derogatory term for hackers that download tools and have no idea what they are doing.

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At least kiddies can eventually learn, the biggest fans of these things are worse, they are MBAies

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I read all the way to "is beginning to annoy him." and immediately stopped giving a fuck.

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Clippy coding! Newer coders won't get the reference, older coders can hold it with the same scorn.

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My self-hosted LLM can suggest better names for anything!

Subscription fee is only $1m a minute, most answers are returned in about 3 hours, since I can't afford more RAM.

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Shit coding Slop coding Hallucination coding Job security coding Your gonna regret this coding Delete all my data coding

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I wonder how many of these people in this thread made their snarky comment and went right back to Claude Code

It’s not zero

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I've got no strong contenders.

"Blind coding" "Script slopping" "Junk writing" "Not knowing what you're doing, but it's fine because you also aren't capable of knowing what you're doing" "Slop slapping" (as in "I had a problem with my computer, so I slop slapped a solution on it") "Wasting GPU cycles so you can also waste CPU cycles"

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Ok boomer, how about slop coding, or woke vibing?

Are those better for your snowflake ears? Or are you going to keep giving us free lists about which words hurt your feelings the most lol

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lemmy.world

Nothing wrong with "vibe coding", "prompting", "generating" or the other terms associated with using AI to generate something.

If you do proper quality assurance, and assume ownership and accountability it is your piece of work. If not, it's AI slop.

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I'll say "vibe coding" to me implies the operator has zero awareness of the actual code, and there is something wrong.

They treat the actual program logic in the same way folks treat assembly code as some arcane black magic they don't have to think about. Problem is the tooling is not nearly so deterministic as a compiler, and the output is just too bad to be relied upon.

For certain clasesses of tasks, it may do a serviceable job, maybe at first. If you have ongoing evolution requirements, it can dig itself a whole that it can't really dig out of. It can't process the code that had been generated to extrapolate a code change to match the change request.

The GenAI coding needs supervision, and 'vibe coding' implies opting out of careful supervision.

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Agreed. I finally got around to setting up a system in a mostly isolated subnet to play with agentic coding recently, and I was reasonably surprised at how not awful the result was. Still won't trust the fuck to spit out anything without supervision.

All I wanted was to make a debug version of a FOSS app I use because the official app is lacking basic features. It took a few attempts, but it solved my issues and spat out an answer that was the minimum viable patch (after instructing it to do so and not edit a dozen unnecessary files) that looks reasonable. I never got into android apps, but I understand the syntax well enough to know it didn't do anything horribly out of pocket.

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lemmy.world

Before LLMs were a thing, my CS1 professor used to call it “The Big Bang Theory”: You write some code and then BANG! It works!

Of course, it doesn’t work, and the results are unpredictable bad software that you don’t understand. The point of the analogy was that you need to analyze and literally iterate over code to gain concrete proof of what it was actually doing to engineer a coherent software design.

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You really needed a better CS professor.

If you're writing code that you don't understand without treating it like a goddamned microbe in a petri dish, you are the slop coder.

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slop + coding

slop coding

sloding

slopding (E: Could be translated into German as "something which is slop". -ding has a similar meaning as -zeug, e.g. Flugzeug, "something which flies")

sloping

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I just want to say: I appreciate all these comments so much, I regret that I only have a single upvote to give each of them. You all give me hope that at least there will be fellow humans standing by my side through... wherever this goes.

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Peer reviewed or not peer reviewed. Doesn't matter how it was created as long as others have been walked through it.

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