I love that you're now having the non-genitals you want and I love that by requesting that you've now been a pioneer paving the way for others 🏳️⚧️
You really should be proud of yourself for going through all the medical system interrogations and stuff and enduring people questioning you on things that are not their business.
It kinda is their business if they're doing the surgery. They can refuse to do things that they feel are unethical, inhumane, ect. Plus they have to take into account the person's mental status if they're in the right state of mind for an elective operation like that. It isn't surgery to remove an appendix or gallbladder. They can also refuse to do it.
But yeah, if that's what you want do you. They just need to make sure, for some pretty damn good reasons.
seems like you don't know how invasive the questions asked by medical stuff can be. sure this is something with extra questions involved. these questions are not my point.
(just for example I have been asked unprompted - and in details - about my sexual activity by a diabetic doctor. things like that happen a lot. it's exhausting to be trans in the medical system.)
Its exhausting to be anyone in the medical system. I can't think of a single person that isn't beaten to with in an inch of their mental limits by the medical system.
No real questions here tbh, I'm just so glad you were able to get what you wanted! Having genitals you don't want is unbelievably fucking uncomfortable in my experience. I hope it was the relief you needed!
My surgeon made Me a new pee pee hole, around where most women keep theirs. You definitely couldn't fit a penis in there, though, it's tiny. It's for pee and jizz only, same as the old one. I suppose I could still do sounding, but I don't want to.
Ejaculate is a bit of a cocktail. The sperm comes from the balls, but there are glands along the duct that connects the testicles to the urinary tract that add a liquid which can sometimes be seen separately as precum. During ejaculation, those liquids are pushed out, and mixed with the sperm load if one is present. Those glands and the duct can be kept during surgery.
Like how almost all people have nipples and milk ducts, almost all people have the same genital components, they're just shaped and positioned differently. These glands are the same as the ones that make the wetness of vaginas, and the tube connecting the testicles and urinary tract is the same as the womb, vagina, and inner vulva.
Jizz is only a few percent spermatozoids, the rest is seminal fluid mainly produced by other organs like the prostate and seminal vesicle, so you can absolutely ejaculate with no testicles
Did you have trouble finding a doctor willing to do it, or get a lot of push back? I've heard how hard it can be for women to get sterilized sometimes, so I imagine there would be a lot of push back on this too. "Are you really really really sure for real?"
I had a lot of trouble with the doctor stuff. Bottom surgery in general in Australia is a nightmare. There's this guy, Andrew Ives, who used to be the #1 recommendation for bottom surgery in the entire country. So I booked a consultation with him, months and months in advance. And then he retired.
I eventually found a surgeon with a great bedside manner, who could do exactly what I wanted, including the special feature I wanted. The only problem was, he wanted Me to see TWO licensed WPATH psychiatrists. Most people only have to see one psychiatrist, but I had to see two because My surgery is less common.
At first, I thought you were describing a zero-depth vaginoplasty sort of situation, but then realized you really did order "nuttin'". I'll admit, I was just as confused as Jimmy. Thanks for digging up this classic ad too.
I have no questions (your replies here tell the whole story already), but just wanted to say: this is incredible and I'm happy for you!
I kept a little bit of the sensitive tissue. Just the tip. It's under My skin so I can wank by rubbing it. But I'm not really into the whole having sex thing most of the time.
I see You capitalize Your first person pronouns, and in Your bio You specify Your third person pronouns (They/Them), so would You also like that for second person pronouns?
I made this post because A: it's funny, and B: I want other trans people to know this is an option, so they can be happier with whatever choice they make.
Pretty quick and simple. I don't have to dilate or anything like that. I walked out of the hospital three days after the surgery, and a week later I was taking care of Myself
I didn't like having a twig and berries. It got hard at inconvenient times and got in the way of wearing tight pants. Plus I don't like the concept of having a sex object attached to My body. Now that I have no genitals, I wear leggings and cute dresses all the time.
According to most people's definitions of sex, yes I'm asexual. But I do enjoy some of the secret kinds of sex the patriarchy doesn't want you to know about.
Yep, I've got the glans under the skin so I can have fun with it while also being smooth. There's no bulge or nothing, enough material was removed that it's actually kind of indented around that area.
::: spoiler NSFW
One of My favourite ways to have sex is with pain. If you're knife-shy or don't like permanent scars, stimulating a bruise as if it were a sex organ is a good way to bring a masochist to orgasm. My partner Ivy really enjoyed that one when it visited Australia. We also have a lot of fun together in the astral plane.
:::
Bottom surgery isn't for everyone, some people aren't comfortable losing what they have. But for those who do want it, it's awesome, and sometimes life-saving. The most important thing is doing what makes you happy and comfortable.
By the way, if eliminating random boners is all you want HRT on its own will usually do that. I've also heard DHT blockers like finasteride can cause erectile dysfunction as well, though I can't say for sure if it's guaranteed.
Definitely do your own research before taking drugs to change aspects of yourself. I'm just a person on the internet.
Finasteride can occassionally cause ED. The hair pill (1mg) version has about a 97% chance of not doing that, though. I wouldn't trust it to stop boners, personally.
Still waiting for one brave soul to undergo the combined phalloplasty/vaginoplasty. That's where they first take your existing dick and surgically transform it into a vag and vulva. Then they take a piece of your arm skin and construct a replacement dick for some reason.
I guess so. Is that movie any good? I don't usually like horror, Hellraiser was too much for Me with all the bugs. But I really liked Crimes of the Future.
I thought it was entertaining. I went in thinking it was like American Psycho, and I was VERY wrong. A story of revenge and making the best out of the hands you were given.
I love that you're now having the non-genitals you want and I love that by requesting that you've now been a pioneer paving the way for others 🏳️⚧️
You really should be proud of yourself for going through all the medical system interrogations and stuff and enduring people questioning you on things that are not their business.
Congrats for nothing 😁💕
It kinda is their business if they're doing the surgery. They can refuse to do things that they feel are unethical, inhumane, ect. Plus they have to take into account the person's mental status if they're in the right state of mind for an elective operation like that. It isn't surgery to remove an appendix or gallbladder. They can also refuse to do it.
But yeah, if that's what you want do you. They just need to make sure, for some pretty damn good reasons.
seems like you don't know how invasive the questions asked by medical stuff can be. sure this is something with extra questions involved. these questions are not my point.
(just for example I have been asked unprompted - and in details - about my sexual activity by a diabetic doctor. things like that happen a lot. it's exhausting to be trans in the medical system.)
Its exhausting to be anyone in the medical system. I can't think of a single person that isn't beaten to with in an inch of their mental limits by the medical system.
Its a pain we all share.
No real questions here tbh, I'm just so glad you were able to get what you wanted! Having genitals you don't want is unbelievably fucking uncomfortable in my experience. I hope it was the relief you needed!
Yeah, I'm way comfier now. And no more hair getting stuck under My balls! Now it only gets stuck in My butt crack! That's progress!
I reckon that's next on the agenda.
Where do you pee from?
My surgeon made Me a new pee pee hole, around where most women keep theirs. You definitely couldn't fit a penis in there, though, it's tiny. It's for pee and jizz only, same as the old one. I suppose I could still do sounding, but I don't want to.
Jizz in the form oft baby juices? Arent the berrys gone? Is there some biological thing i have still to learn?
The vast majority of the volume of semen is made in the prostate and seminal vesicles (which are right next to the bladder), not the testes!
semen is stored in the prostate and seminal vesicles
There's no room in the testes, what with all the pee.
Ejaculate is a bit of a cocktail. The sperm comes from the balls, but there are glands along the duct that connects the testicles to the urinary tract that add a liquid which can sometimes be seen separately as precum. During ejaculation, those liquids are pushed out, and mixed with the sperm load if one is present. Those glands and the duct can be kept during surgery.
Like how almost all people have nipples and milk ducts, almost all people have the same genital components, they're just shaped and positioned differently. These glands are the same as the ones that make the wetness of vaginas, and the tube connecting the testicles and urinary tract is the same as the womb, vagina, and inner vulva.
Jizz is only a few percent spermatozoids, the rest is seminal fluid mainly produced by other organs like the prostate and seminal vesicle, so you can absolutely ejaculate with no testicles
from the superior cloaca
Like a coke freestyle machine??
A cloaca is also a poop hole, which isn't the case here.
our science is not yet powerful enough
Did you have trouble finding a doctor willing to do it, or get a lot of push back? I've heard how hard it can be for women to get sterilized sometimes, so I imagine there would be a lot of push back on this too. "Are you really really really sure for real?"
I had a lot of trouble with the doctor stuff. Bottom surgery in general in Australia is a nightmare. There's this guy, Andrew Ives, who used to be the #1 recommendation for bottom surgery in the entire country. So I booked a consultation with him, months and months in advance. And then he retired.
I eventually found a surgeon with a great bedside manner, who could do exactly what I wanted, including the special feature I wanted. The only problem was, he wanted Me to see TWO licensed WPATH psychiatrists. Most people only have to see one psychiatrist, but I had to see two because My surgery is less common.
What’s the special feature you wanted?
Nothing.
Of put in a sniper nest
Where did they relocate your urethral opening, or whatever it's called? I mean, where do you pee from, now?
Around the same place most women keep theirs. Just, minus the vagina part.
is it just like a small small hole? do you have to 'dilate' like a standard bottom surgery (I forgot if that's the right word for that)
No, I don't have to dilate, I'm not Hank Hill. I have a perfectly normal width urethra.
Officially it's a meatus (mee-AY-tus), but asking where you pee from is probably easier for everyone XD
That's awesome, now I know the medical term for a pee pee hole and I can answer "where do You pee from" more professionally
At first, I thought you were describing a zero-depth vaginoplasty sort of situation, but then realized you really did order "nuttin'". I'll admit, I was just as confused as Jimmy. Thanks for digging up this classic ad too.
I have no questions (your replies here tell the whole story already), but just wanted to say: this is incredible and I'm happy for you!
I kinda want to see what this looks like
You want pictures of My crotch?
I mean, this is the internet, sending each other crotch pics it's what it was designed for 😄
Also, how do you stimulate for orgasm? Prostate only I guess. Or you don't want to have sex as well? Just curious, I'm happy that you're happy 🙂
I kept a little bit of the sensitive tissue. Just the tip. It's under My skin so I can wank by rubbing it. But I'm not really into the whole having sex thing most of the time.
I guess if you put it like that it does sound weird. But yes, I'm intrigued.
::: spoiler something like this :::
::: spoiler From Black Mirror 04x01 USS Callister
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PgsZBcCl5Vs
:::
Did you have an ideas of what it would look like before you had the surgery? Maybe there's pictures elsewhere on the interrnet.
My surgeon showed Me pictures of his other patients
I see You capitalize Your first person pronouns, and in Your bio You specify Your third person pronouns (They/Them), so would You also like that for second person pronouns?
Yes please!
Thank You for inspiring my most wholesome application of user tagging!
Based
@Grail dang, the nothing envy is real 😹
I made this post because A: it's funny, and B: I want other trans people to know this is an option, so they can be happier with whatever choice they make.
@Grail …despite being jokey, i hope my response didn’t come off as insincere
No, I took you seriously, I had nothing envy before the surgery. Now I've got nothing euphoria
I remember when I first got here, the biggest post was about the person who asked for advice on how to not poop for 3 days.
Now we are here with detailed comments on Genital Nullification Surgery, with GREAT answers in the comments.
How times have changed.
Awww, thanks!
What was the healing/recovery like compared to a traditional GRS?
Pretty quick and simple. I don't have to dilate or anything like that. I walked out of the hospital three days after the surgery, and a week later I was taking care of Myself
How smooth is it?
About as smooth as My bum
No Jimmy. Hold the Nuttin.
Why?
I didn't like having a twig and berries. It got hard at inconvenient times and got in the way of wearing tight pants. Plus I don't like the concept of having a sex object attached to My body. Now that I have no genitals, I wear leggings and cute dresses all the time.
Awkward boners an issue, I agree. But I can’t imagine giving up my family jewels because of that. Are you asexual?
According to most people's definitions of sex, yes I'm asexual. But I do enjoy some of the secret kinds of sex the patriarchy doesn't want you to know about.
Is the area still as sensitive as the item you had before? I mean, can you still masturbate ?
I can rubby rubby. It's less sensitive, but more pleasurable
Did the surgery relocate your glans somewhere to enable that or is that just the way it be?
Yep, I've got the glans under the skin so I can have fun with it while also being smooth. There's no bulge or nothing, enough material was removed that it's actually kind of indented around that area.
OK, that makes me curious. What is the patriarchy keeping from me?
::: spoiler NSFW
One of My favourite ways to have sex is with pain. If you're knife-shy or don't like permanent scars, stimulating a bruise as if it were a sex organ is a good way to bring a masochist to orgasm. My partner Ivy really enjoyed that one when it visited Australia. We also have a lot of fun together in the astral plane. :::
Oh, interesting!
Bottom surgery isn't for everyone, some people aren't comfortable losing what they have. But for those who do want it, it's awesome, and sometimes life-saving. The most important thing is doing what makes you happy and comfortable.
By the way, if eliminating random boners is all you want HRT on its own will usually do that. I've also heard DHT blockers like finasteride can cause erectile dysfunction as well, though I can't say for sure if it's guaranteed. Definitely do your own research before taking drugs to change aspects of yourself. I'm just a person on the internet.
Finasteride can occassionally cause ED. The hair pill (1mg) version has about a 97% chance of not doing that, though. I wouldn't trust it to stop boners, personally.
Yeah I've been on E for 6 years (And on T-blockers for only 5 years, yay no balls), and I still got stiffies back when that was anatomically possible.
I know nothing about the topic, but just wanted to chime in to say I appreciate your use of the interrobang.
You have unlocked some rare NSFW cosplay options, look around the comment section for inspiration...
Have you considered matching top surgery?
I have, but decided against it. Sex doesn't hold much appeal for Me, but I do like having My nipples sucked.
@Grail my question is, did you have to remove all your hair from down there before surgery? and can you still grow hair there now?
I did not have to remove any hair, and I can still grow pubic hair.
this meme made me chuckle
Is your name Ken?
No.
Actually, Ken has all of the genitals.
Not after the surgery
Getting a tattoo is too much of a commitment for me.
Still waiting for one brave soul to undergo the combined phalloplasty/vaginoplasty. That's where they first take your existing dick and surgically transform it into a vag and vulva. Then they take a piece of your arm skin and construct a replacement dick for some reason.
So you had the same procedure as American Mary's Ruby Realgirl, played by Paula Lindberg.
I guess so. Is that movie any good? I don't usually like horror, Hellraiser was too much for Me with all the bugs. But I really liked Crimes of the Future.
I thought it was entertaining. I went in thinking it was like American Psycho, and I was VERY wrong. A story of revenge and making the best out of the hands you were given.
No questions, just congratulations!! 🎊🎈🍾🎉
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