Quentin Tarantino making characters that say the N word over and over or are involved in erotic foot fetish scenarios and then casting himself to play those characters.
He seems more like a guy who never got past the emotional age of 13 than a racist. He probably really loved setting up a situation where he gets to rattle off an edgy, shocking round of nonsense in front of the whole country and giggle as people get offended. Your offense is probably playing into his pleasure more than the particular word he used.
OK, I'll give you a small benefit of the doubt that "negro" was the common and accepted term, but that was a long time ago. Even still, it literally just means black, so your point is really stupid. You're saying Americans refuse to call them black and only call them black. It's stupid as fuck.
Also, for the "negroid race" thing, race is made up. Black is almost certainly more accurate than that shit.
Finally, one last thing, calling people black is far from an American thing. It's the norm around the world (using the native language's word for black usually).
Kind of like that part in Genesis where Abraham his wife and presumably God all show that they have a cuckolding fetish while they engage in multiple cuckolding/blackmail schemes?
Nope. Abraham and his wife Sarah. They like to go to other cities pretend like they weren't married and then when someone fucks Sarah then God makes the bull pay them money. Happens multiple times. Really fucking weird. Abraham liked watching people fuck his wife and presumably so did God.
There's a whole chapter about cum in the bible. Rules about what to do when you cum on your neighbor's goat, what to do if you someone cums on you. Basically the whole thing is part of the tabernacle racket. Pretty much any time someone cums they have to bring birds to the tabernacle to cut in half and set fire to. Probably written by a bird seller if we're being honest with ourselves here.
Genesis 38:9 But Onan knew that the offspring would not belong to him; so whenever he would sleep with his brother's wife, he would spill his seed on the ground so that he would not produce offspring for his brother.
Those prophetical books tend to have been rewritten to make them prophetical in retrospect, so it does have that element.
I believe it was King Josiah, ~600BCE, who compiled the books and had them lightly edited into a History of the Kingdom kinda deal. The whole theme of the Kingdom of Judea being the Rightful Leader Of The Tribes really gives it away. There's a lot of convenient propaganda.
Lemmy has a strong atheism bias. You'd think as much as they cling to the "rationality" of it they'd realize that the stats literally show that religious people live longer. DIYing your own tight knit subcommunity that looks out for each other and have a shared set of traditions to mark both the passage of time and provide a structure for people cope with significant life events is a LOT harder than getting one off the shelf. Like it's super hard to even find the people who want to do that without accidentally starting a cult. Like I've thought about trying to find people to do regular group meditations and create holiday traditions with and then realized I'm literally describing either a cult or something that could easily become one.
And that's the other thing; most religions have some kind of regular meditation built in on how they relate to the world that usually focus on gratitude and prosocial behavior. Because it's a tradition that almost always predates modern psychology they don't always reliably meet those ends but the fact that they often do is a big part of why prayer of some kind is such an enduring tradition in most world religions.
People are so ready to dig on humans even a few centuries back for doing stuff like singing / chanting over an tincture / extract or other concentrated medicine they're making but how the fuck else were they supposed to time how long it takes for to brew a medicine with a narrow therapeutic range that needs to be exact? They didn't have fucking kitchen timers!
Some of us have moved on from atheism to post-theism. In part, because some atheists can be very annoying. (Thanks a lot, four horsemen of the dorkalypse).
To your point, I do sometimes miss the music, rituals, fellowship, and liturgy of my old church. It was a mostly wholesome experience, and many of the people were very good people. In particular I miss being a member of the choir.
It was interesting (and revealing) when I left the church to experience which of my old friends from that church were very accepting of my walking away, and which ones wanted nothing to do with me anymore.
Anyway, I have found that my table top gaming groups (mostly RPG games) have helped a lot with social needs. Not a full replacement for a church, of course. But it is an activity that creates interpersonal bonds and encourages folks to be vulnerable around each other at times. And, a little bit like churches and temples, the quality of the experience can vary greatly from one group to another.
You must be so used to people being contrarian that even my sarcastic criticism triggers your aggression or whatever this is.
Just relax and take a deep breath, nobody here is an enemy.
I'm merely pointing out an interesting idea that to a lot of (maybe even most, or even all) people, history, and therefore one's worldview and values, are subjective and based around an authority of some kind.
No need to make this weirdly personal and hostile, we are only discussing ideas.
Well obviously there’s a biological and psychological component, which would transcend cultures. Probably goes back to times in our evolution before we were even considered human.
That would explain its robustness across culture and history, but I can’t come up with even a shitty evopsych explanation. Bigger dicks scoop out more of the previous male’s ejaculate??
Same reason oral sex probably predates modern humans. Pleasing your partner is advantageous. Whether the bigger dick actually does this is a matter of perception. Just like in modern porn.
And also, what women thinks, "the best part of sex for me is the mess at the end! The more I have to clean up after, the better, especially in this time of no running water!"
This is a disapproval to the woman. I don't remember exactly (and I don't want to read it again), but this isn't a thing that Ezekiel is glorifying, but rather showing how perverse the lady was.
thats not even the subject of this discussion.
the hidden subtext is.
people argue, the shit is made up to slander some woman for no real reason.
however the accusation is oddly creative,
that can only mean one thing: the author of this verse is into the thing they accuse others of.
"every accusation is a confession"
is a common comment whenever a conservative hateful man turns out guilty of commiting crimes they decried of others.
this happened so much, its kind of a meme
culminating in this thread
Quentin Tarantino making characters that say the N word over and over or are involved in erotic foot fetish scenarios and then casting himself to play those characters.
Tarintino shows the US as it is/was. N-word is a part of that history
And it's just a weird coincidence that it was the character he wrote for himself.
I don’t know his reasoning and I have no idea what kind of person he is, but I’d rather do something uncomfortable than ask someone to do it.
Nobody had to fucking do it, have you seen Pulp Fiction? It's an entirely unnecessary, and incredibly lame attempt at a joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5CX00i4uZE
probably just a pragmatic way to save time/$, need a pasty white guy to say N-word...Tarintino about as pasty white as it gets
He seems more like a guy who never got past the emotional age of 13 than a racist. He probably really loved setting up a situation where he gets to rattle off an edgy, shocking round of nonsense in front of the whole country and giggle as people get offended. Your offense is probably playing into his pleasure more than the particular word he used.
Lol, you think black people in the states want to be called "negros" or "negroid?" Lmfao.
Come on over and try it out on a crowded street. I'll be very excited to video tape for you.
OK, I'll give you a small benefit of the doubt that "negro" was the common and accepted term, but that was a long time ago. Even still, it literally just means black, so your point is really stupid. You're saying Americans refuse to call them black and only call them black. It's stupid as fuck.
Also, for the "negroid race" thing, race is made up. Black is almost certainly more accurate than that shit.
Finally, one last thing, calling people black is far from an American thing. It's the norm around the world (using the native language's word for black usually).
Applies to all skin shades.
Yeeeeeaaaaahh literally none of those slurs are okay to use
Kind of like that part in Genesis where Abraham his wife and presumably God all show that they have a cuckolding fetish while they engage in multiple cuckolding/blackmail schemes?
Nope. Abraham and his wife Sarah. They like to go to other cities pretend like they weren't married and then when someone fucks Sarah then God makes the bull pay them money. Happens multiple times. Really fucking weird. Abraham liked watching people fuck his wife and presumably so did God.
every time someone whips out a proverb, I just reply with this one.
It's funny seeing them looking it up
In this metaphor, what does the donkey dick and horse cum represent?
For whatever reason I took "emissions like a horse" as someone who farts like a horse. I have to say horse cum makes way more sense.
There's a whole chapter about cum in the bible. Rules about what to do when you cum on your neighbor's goat, what to do if you someone cums on you. Basically the whole thing is part of the tabernacle racket. Pretty much any time someone cums they have to bring birds to the tabernacle to cut in half and set fire to. Probably written by a bird seller if we're being honest with ourselves here.
I…. Don’t believe you. Lmao. Either that or sky daddy’s book is way more wild than I’ve ever considered
You really need to read the Song of Soloman. It's basically a dirty love poem.
"Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins."
"This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters of grapes."
" I am a wall, and my breasts like towers: then was I in his eyes as one that found favour."
Genesis 38:9 But Onan knew that the offspring would not belong to him; so whenever he would sleep with his brother's wife, he would spill his seed on the ground so that he would not produce offspring for his brother.
Onan had biblical pull out game
Now I'm imagining you lusting after horse farts.
Dick
Right.
Those prophetical books tend to have been rewritten to make them prophetical in retrospect, so it does have that element.
I believe it was King Josiah, ~600BCE, who compiled the books and had them lightly edited into a History of the Kingdom kinda deal. The whole theme of the Kingdom of Judea being the Rightful Leader Of The Tribes really gives it away. There's a lot of convenient propaganda.
Sorry, it's been too long. I could be full of shit anyway :P
It might be more a case of selecting than editing the canon anyway.
No, you were right to challenge me!
Are you spelling God wrong on purpose for some reason?
You are also spelling god wrong. It is without capital since there are like 5000 of them.
I'd prefer if no one ever had a reason to think about how to spell it
Lemmy has a strong atheism bias. You'd think as much as they cling to the "rationality" of it they'd realize that the stats literally show that religious people live longer. DIYing your own tight knit subcommunity that looks out for each other and have a shared set of traditions to mark both the passage of time and provide a structure for people cope with significant life events is a LOT harder than getting one off the shelf. Like it's super hard to even find the people who want to do that without accidentally starting a cult. Like I've thought about trying to find people to do regular group meditations and create holiday traditions with and then realized I'm literally describing either a cult or something that could easily become one.
And that's the other thing; most religions have some kind of regular meditation built in on how they relate to the world that usually focus on gratitude and prosocial behavior. Because it's a tradition that almost always predates modern psychology they don't always reliably meet those ends but the fact that they often do is a big part of why prayer of some kind is such an enduring tradition in most world religions.
People are so ready to dig on humans even a few centuries back for doing stuff like singing / chanting over an tincture / extract or other concentrated medicine they're making but how the fuck else were they supposed to time how long it takes for to brew a medicine with a narrow therapeutic range that needs to be exact? They didn't have fucking kitchen timers!
Some of us have moved on from atheism to post-theism. In part, because some atheists can be very annoying. (Thanks a lot, four horsemen of the dorkalypse).
To your point, I do sometimes miss the music, rituals, fellowship, and liturgy of my old church. It was a mostly wholesome experience, and many of the people were very good people. In particular I miss being a member of the choir.
It was interesting (and revealing) when I left the church to experience which of my old friends from that church were very accepting of my walking away, and which ones wanted nothing to do with me anymore.
Anyway, I have found that my table top gaming groups (mostly RPG games) have helped a lot with social needs. Not a full replacement for a church, of course. But it is an activity that creates interpersonal bonds and encourages folks to be vulnerable around each other at times. And, a little bit like churches and temples, the quality of the experience can vary greatly from one group to another.
I'd be okay with those people having to find their meaning elsewhere if all the historical atrocities went away too
yeah but it’s parable. so like… ?
Even in pre-history, men were somehow convinced that what women really wanted was: bigger dicks. Bigger dicks than human men could possibly offer.
It's such a weird preoccupation, and it seems like it's got to be deeper than just a cultural thing.
I wouldn't call 600BC prehistoric.
Depends on who your authority is
Since we have a written record, it's clearly history, accuracy disclaimers aside.
To a lot of people, religious texts are authority
Why did you switch to the word Authority instead of History? Is it because using the word history makes your argument invalid?
I don't even have an argument here. Chill.
You must be so used to people being contrarian that even my sarcastic criticism triggers your aggression or whatever this is.
Just relax and take a deep breath, nobody here is an enemy.
I'm merely pointing out an interesting idea that to a lot of (maybe even most, or even all) people, history, and therefore one's worldview and values, are subjective and based around an authority of some kind.
No need to make this weirdly personal and hostile, we are only discussing ideas.
Wow you're coming off as super chill and not defensive at all here. Lol.
Are they your authority?
With that definition, isn't Frodo dumping the One Ring into a vulcano history too?
Well, yes, 1955 CE is, in fact, history.
Sure, buddy. Now go play and let the adults talk.
Yooo why are you being such a dick?
Well obviously there’s a biological and psychological component, which would transcend cultures. Probably goes back to times in our evolution before we were even considered human.
That would explain its robustness across culture and history, but I can’t come up with even a shitty evopsych explanation. Bigger dicks scoop out more of the previous male’s ejaculate??
Same reason oral sex probably predates modern humans. Pleasing your partner is advantageous. Whether the bigger dick actually does this is a matter of perception. Just like in modern porn.
Ever heard of a peacock?
Hey! That's what I do with mine
Horse emissions that different than donkeys? Couldn't just pick a single animal here for reference?
Not if you're a true connoisseur of equine reproduction apparatus like our boy Zeke here.
And also, what women thinks, "the best part of sex for me is the mess at the end! The more I have to clean up after, the better, especially in this time of no running water!"
Bu-katholics?
The kind of woman who is actually a man writing about what he thinks women want...
How does this witch know about running water from the future that hasn’t been invented yet?
Romans had aqueducts at the time this was written
I like how everyone is taking the witch’s side on this one.
Well, they weigh the same as a duck and have spells to make your penis bigger.
Sign me the fuck up! 😃
Streams and rivers?
They like the normal amount. Like, about a tablespoon
https://youtube.com/shorts/sBlRc6ZlhDg
Ah, I guess the donkey dragon romance makes sense
" ... and in the morning, I'm making waffles!"
god, same
A girl can't have hobbies
Relatable
"Just don't think about it".
-religious people, unironically
hey, it's me, donkey
Oh hey there
right back atcha
It's definitely my favorite line in the Bible.
I have this verse reference on a bumper sticker.
Real Christians have this tattoo'd on their taint.
Just the ezekiel 23:30 part? Fuck yeah.
23:20*
type shit
Ezekiel's wheels considered size queens to be haram.
What? I didn't know they talked about Boeing engineers in the Bible?
BRB, need to make a t-shirt.
No quote, just:
Front: a small red and blue GOP donkey with dick out on the top left
Back: Ezekiel 23:20
Isn't GOP's animal the elephant?
Yes
Ezekilation 23:20
This is a disapproval to the woman. I don't remember exactly (and I don't want to read it again), but this isn't a thing that Ezekiel is glorifying, but rather showing how perverse the lady was.
thats not even the subject of this discussion. the hidden subtext is.
people argue, the shit is made up to slander some woman for no real reason.
however the accusation is oddly creative, that can only mean one thing: the author of this verse is into the thing they accuse others of.
"every accusation is a confession"
is a common comment whenever a conservative hateful man turns out guilty of commiting crimes they decried of others. this happened so much, its kind of a meme culminating in this thread