Papers, Please creator Lucas Pope says he no longer reveals what he’s working on in case it’s stolen or ‘slurped up by AI’
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/papers-please-creator-lucas-pope-says-he-no-longer-reveals-what-hes-working-on-in-case-its-stolen-or-slurped-up-by-ai/Open linkView original on lemmy.ca545
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You know, I feel him there. I can't even imagine how to make a successful follow-up after two games that were not just smash hits, but brilliant and unconventional too. Everyone is basically expecting a piece of genius (me included). Not to mention the step up from Papers to Obra Dinn was so huge in terms of production and scope that it's easy to expect another escalation.
To be fair, the first spawned a genre and the second is a masterpiece, he set an impossible standard. But you could have said that before the second was released.
If I could tell Pope one thing, it's "just make games you think you'll like dude"
It frustrates me that I'll never be able to enjoy Obra Dinn again for the first time. This will probably for ever be a one of its kind game, and it makes me sad
Try the roottrees are dead.
Definitely not the same, but have you checked out Seance at Blake Manor?
What other games came out that were like Papers Please? I only ever played/heard of that one.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3419520/Quarantine_Zone_The_Last_Check/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3431040/Thats_not_my_Neighbor/
Those are the closest two I think.
There's others that get more into FNAF type of gameplay, or straight detective sorts.
I would call Not Tonight a 'paperslike'.
Speaking as Brit who is salty as hell at Brexit, I really enjoyed "Not Tonight". It takes the Papers, Please mechanical framework and applies it to a new socio-economic context for some really effective satire. If you hadn't mentioned it, then this is the one that I would have commented to add
The upcoming I Have No Change has a certain Papers-esque feel to it. You're stuck in a kiosk doing mundane things, and narratives are told through the characters that visit your kiosk.
He's in a tricky position but I'd like to see him create anything that he finds interesting. It doesn't need to be as refined as Obra Dinn, but it would be a shame if he didn't release something just because it's 75% as good as Obra Dinn.
Lucas Pope is a much smarter person than me, so I'm sure he'll make the right decision for him. I'm sure just making money doesn't mean all that much to him anymore.
Perhaps he could take a page out of the book of authors and publish a new game under a non-de-plume?
I'm going to miss his blog about game development, even if I don't intend to do it, reading about how he figured out how to do the Obra Din graphics was pretty rad.
I heard the lead guy for HuniePop say the same not very long ago. He said the turnaround time for games made in regions with looser IP laws could be insane at times, and before you know it, your preview assets show up in some product.
Papers Please, Obra Dinn, and Moida Mansion creator Lucas Pope. Awesome free little retro-LCD game, if you haven't played it before? It's short, but it's got multiple endings and you can speedrun it. What more do you need?
Thanks for the recommendation of Moida Mansion. I hadn't heard of it before, but I loved Papers, Please so much that I'm already sold on trying it.
(The Papers, Please theme has been my alarm tune for the last few years. Rather impressively, I haven't gotten sick of it yet — I suspect because every time I am woken to my haze of groggy misanthropy, it just makes me appreciate the song more, because it's so thematically appropriate)
I see you don't know who Lucas Pope is or what his previews consisted of. I really liked his blogposts about designing a game for a retro handheld console that really doesn't seem worth buying. His dev blog gave me more vivid appreciation for the art of games.
I really hope he'll publish the dev blogs after the game.
Thanks for the recommendation about his Dev blogs — I didn't know he had done these, and they look really cool; Papers, Please is one of my favourite games, so I'm always keen to peer behind the scenes
Here's a link, if anyone else is interested. This might not be the specific post OP was talking about, but you'll be able to find it from here if not
If you're gonna be a dick, at least get it right
The phrase is "Assume makes an ass out of you and me"
I airways heard it as "Assuming makes an ass of you and Ming."
I dislike the way you talk to people
Aaaand blocked.
I don't think there's any chance of Lucas Pope putting out a crap game. A great game that's incredibly niche, I could see that though.
Well you got stuff like this:
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/ai-generated-rip-off-of-unfinished-japanese-indie-game-beats-original-to-release-sparking-concerns-about-safety-of-sharing-dev-progress/
Unfortunately I think Lucas Pope's concerns are valid.
Right. AI coding assistant help users move fast. If the user is a thief, that's on the thief. A competent developer of a thief, considering the game worked at all. AI alone accomplishes none of this.
I think something happened with Ridiculous Fishing pre-AI too. A really hasty clone gained a bunch of undue attention.
Smart. Ethics are a thing of the past.
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I mean, valid.
this is so sad. he provided so much as a solo dev showing his work. check out his YouTube channel.
Good idea.