Microsoft says Copilot is for entertainment purposes only, not serious use — firm pushing AI hard to consumers and businesses tells users not to rely on it for important advice
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/microsoft-says-copilot-is-for-entertainment-purposes-only-not-serious-use-firm-pushing-ai-hard-to-consumers-tells-users-not-to-rely-on-it-for-important-adviceOpen linkView original on lemmy.world850
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Standard fart operating procedure
A salesman for an AI consulting company made the comment that we don't expect perfection from humans, so why should we expect it from AI? He was smug about it, too, like it was his big gotcha. Joke's on him, I'm the one that talked the bosses out of spending money with them.
“Is your AI accountable for mistakes? All these idiots are…”
That's such a bad argument too. The whole point of technology is to help perfect the output of humans. Why would we buy technology that is known to not do that
"You can get pretty good results most of the time and save money on labor!" Not like our whole business model is focused on expertise and compliance or anything. Surely our clients won't mind a few little mistakes here and there, as a treat.
The neat part is that we can't even claim that they're little mistakes or that there's few of them.
If we can't expect better from an AI than from a human, why should we use the AI (other than so you don't have to pay workers)?
I think there's an important semantic difference between worse performance and correctness. Tools, like AI, can underperform when compared to humans and still be very useful and worth investing into, but that's only as long as they perform correctly.
Yeah, the 'but' is the entire problem. In my experience, LLM chatbots are like if you made a 12yo a junior admin and fed them speed. Very quick to give you a confident answer, but wrong more often than not. The worst part is a lot of what I'm doing is coding, and it gets basic commands and syntax wrong
Like there's a big shortage of unemployed humans
Unless you plan on enslaving them, please refer to my previous comment RE: paying humans.
RE?
Is it Weskin time yet? That would certainly solve unemployment.
If it works, it's thanks to us. If it doesn't, it's your fault.
Ah, the famous "Fox News" defense of claiming you're an entertainment medium but you should totally trust it.
Reminds me of these Autopiloting cars LOL
They, do it all by themselves, fully and autonomously and are pushed so hard as well, but you may not rely on them, never take them for serious.
and didn't tusla recently discontinue the whole thing
For entertainment in Excel...
There are some real sickos out there man
Just like Fox news
That was my first thought, they're using the Fox News legal defense
What regulatory capture of the FTC does to MFer.
All this shit should be considered false advertising, at the very least.
Then why are they promoting it, in a pizza ad, as letting CoPilot handle the spreadsheets. Do they not trust their own product!?
They want your money, not your lawsuits.
My favorite part of that ad was that it was just “magic.”
He plugged in existing numbers and it generated some charts and there’s a line out the door!
Did AI renegotiate supplier agreements? Did it find a way to advertise in a new way? Ha, ha! Who’s to say, just use it why don’t cha??
its same mentality as drug supplier avoiding to get high on his own suppily.
Are you not entertained?!
Yes, that's why it's in Office
Trillion dollar investments, dishing out private nuclear power plants, redistributing water allocation nationwide, using it in every level of every structure of society and it's just for entertainment.
Anyone tell the politicians they bent over like hand worn muppets for a gag or do you think they already know and simply enjoy being treated for the fools that they are?
they already know, the money acts as lube
You're assuming they aren't willingly participating in screwing over the constituents to line their pockets or g to give lucrative contracts to their friends
Proposed revision: Do not use Copilot for business purposes.
But also don't look at our advertisements.
It's almost like it's only a data harvesting tool. Why tf should they implement it everywhere for free?
(to Microsoft) So, you won't be using your ai for vibecoding your updates anymore, right? ...Right?
..checking Microsoft's status page..
I guess Microsoft didn't get the memo they released, then...
I dont know about anyone else but basic things like windows search, windows update, excel, etc.. has always been buggy. I always find it strange people saying this is a new phenomenon, I actually think most things regressed from XP outside of UAC.
So true...
Theo whole OS is garbage. Used to be at least functional, now it’s an ad infested AI slop fest.
Surprise twist: I don’t and won’t rely on it for jack shit
Oh lord, I might get fired for doing this, but I smell a company-wide email about Copilot Monday morning.
Someone finally listend to their lawyers
Copilot: the Fox News of AI
In other words: Snake oil salesman back paddles after the ice he‘s standing on got very thin.
I think you were trying to say "backpedals."
Well, that's if they were on a bicycle, but they're standing on a paddle board over the ice. Why would they stand on a bicycle? that doesn't make sense. Neither does a paddle board on ice, but I already lost track of what the metaphor was about.
So it's not called Microsoft 365 copilot anymore then? Since that is fully focused for business and not for entertainment. Make up your fking mind Microsoft
Entertainment 365.
Sounds like a sex bot that can also juggle.
I can see where an AI that fucks everything up all the time might be entertaining like a good slapstick comedy, but nah, Resident Evil Requiem is sufficient entertainment for now.
Topic aside: I want to play resident evil requiem. do i have to play previous games as well? I haven’t played any.
Naw, they’re tenuously connected aside from some specific moments and characters across the franchise.
Story wise it’s all pulp horror/scifi. If you want to play the highlights, the remakes of part 2 and 4 from the 2010’s are fantastic games and each stand on their own. 7 & 8 are a more modern style and really good straight horror experiences but not necessary to enjoy Requiem. The other entires can be rough as they were created with various elements of game design and language we’ve moved past and improved on since.
Resident Evil Characters wiki page can be a fun read for a little more context but not an absolute need.
Alternately if you want to get caught up without a 100 hour investment in play time, Noah Caldwell-Gervais does great long form essays on video game series’ and his resident evil one will get you up to speed for requiem in significantly less time.
I started playing them on original PlayStation release and have enjoyed them all for different reasons. The story is a hodgepodge of 30 years of writers and artists building a world that is both overly complex and charmingly simple. Each release can be seen as a reflection of the world it was created in and the horror and espionage tropes of the time. At the end of the day though, it is a very silly series that understands the ridiculousness of its characters and world and strikes a great balance between that and being genuinely scary.
Nope, my wife and I watched a stream and I'm only vaguely aware of the plots of the other games. It didn't take away from anything, and my wife clueing me in on the references really didn't add much of value to the experience.
Then how come my company just roll this shit out for work? Allstate just walk us through how us co pilot to type our emails. And to use it for note taking.
Because in the end, you, the person that is forced to use various AI chatbot/agent/model/whatever, will be held responsible for anything that happens after one of the 3000 decisions they imposed you to make with no way to check everything turns out to cause the slightest problem. When that happens, YOU were supposed to know that NOTHING the AI tells/says/do is to be expected correct, so it's your responsibility if something's gone wrong.
Already told them I refuse to let AI write my emails or make my notes. Fuck that noise.
Meanwhile, watching the NCAA game yesterday I watched multiple commercials from Microsoft stating copilot as something to use in your daily work place and work flow. And I didn't see any disclaimer that AI was for entertaining purposes only and that they weren't liable for killing your business.
Where I live, high ranking bank employees are required to use it for serious use and important advice.
Twist the reality all you want, copilot manages my whole life.
How does it feel to put you life into the hands of a dysfunctional black box?
it feels like my hole whole country's government, communications, health system, etc. can be shut down any time by stupid tech bros
That's complete and utter bullshit. Either stand behind your product or don't ship it universally. Pick a lane. Either it's worth using it or isn't, so which is it?
This wishy washy bullshit paints a picture of an embarrassingly inept organization, is that really what you're trying to project Microsoft?
then y the fuck is it prominently showing on the front page of office.com?!
I want to get off Mr. Bones Wild Ride.
fuck you mean, youre pushing ai as if its usable on every corner of the OS, and NOW you announced it to be unreliable?
they probably had Copilot write the new TOS that included this line and since nobody who uses AI reads the final output, nobody caught it.
they never expected consumers to actually read the TOS.
First entertainment purposes only is corporate language for gives the wrong answers and don't want to lose the lawsuit if we tell people to trust it. Just like Fox News.
So it's Microslop's Rule 34?
No worried, I don't have that junk on my Linux system anyways.
Hmm, this thing is on my work laptop…
I do a few things at work that I use AI for. Work had a gpt enterprise key, now we've moved to claude. Through O365, I also have access to copilot.
Pretty much anything I ask claude or gpt about, I can be sure to get a solid answer or one that was at least on Stack Exchange or Reddit. If that fails, and I drill down a little more on a problem, adding details, they'll both get a little better after a couple of questions and usually come up with a reasonable answer.
Not copilot. If you ask copilot something and it doesn't come back in one shot with an authoritative cited answer, just walk away. It makes no attempt to ensure the answer is right or sane. It either hit in training or it didn't. And if it didn't, trying to convince it to strike out in a few other directions to solve it is absolutely a fool's errand.
It's like they bought into OpenAI, then never got any updates or made any progress. I
I think they have access to the same models as OpenAI but choose to use smaller models to achieve higher margins / manage costs when people are using it all day long.
The name MSN Copilot makes sense.
that must mean outlook is for entertainment purposes only too, since it includes copilot now...
Cue, not queue
/petpeeve
Could be either, if there was other music playing first...
incompetent man babies. can't even own up to their fuck ups a like a real man.