Spyke
lemmy.ml

You guys need to stop looking for other countries to blame and actually blame your home-grown one party oligarchy.

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feddit.org

I mean you're not wrong, but Russia/Putin absolutely is to blame for a lot of things that contributed to the rise of fascism in America and Europe in the 21st century.

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lemmy.world

Nothing would've taken place if the conditions weren't already there. White supremacy, a country of easily indoctrinated fools who refuse to think about anything and amorality made it happen, the Russians were but one group of many whispering into American ears.

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I don't know if nothing would've taken place, but I yes, I agree the conditions for Russia to influence US politics were good to begin with.

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You're missing the corporate arm of fascism, probably the most important part.

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lemmy.world

Nonsense "triggers" the reasonable person. The West/America moves the way it does because it can and moral "shoulds" don't play a role in it, never have, not because America has been infiltrated by the Ruskies to the point of changing its nature, lol.

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I think its more that the republican party sees its vision for the future of america looking a lot like a Russian-style oligarchy so there are a lot of republicans communicating with Russia on how to make that happen.

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Binettereply
lemmy.ml

Show this to any person from a third world country destabilized by the US and they'll be "triggered". You cannot take responsibility. Always someone else's fault.

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Tjareply
programming.dev

Nope, because Israel controls the whole country, both parties. Russia is specific to the GOP.

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redrumreply
lemmy.ml

US oligarchs controls both parties. Usians should stop to look outside their frontiers to find the cause of their problems.

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Tjareply
programming.dev

For tax cuts and such, sure. For external and military affairs, Israel is in the driving seat.

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lemmy.world

No it isn't, nothing Israel does happens without American approval and support. Mossad has kompromat on Trump and that's pulling him in this or another direction, sure, but that's a different story and a new development, a circumstantial one. The moment America has a new leader that hasn't been recorded doing the nastiest of deeds by Mossad, even with AIPAC bribing many American politicians, Israel will be just one of many groups influencing American politics as it was in the recent past.

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Tjareply
programming.dev

Yes, but Israel has bought enough senators, congresspeople and others that it dictates what America approves.

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It's not that simple, there are other people also bribing American politicians with opposing stances/objectives (Gulf countries, for example), or else Bibi wouldn't have had to fly personally to meet with Trump and try to convince him like 6 times in the span of a year, risking arrest (for reference, I think Bibi only did it once when Biden was in office). In the end, the blame lies within America, because if the leaders were even slightly moral, or if the people cared even a little bit about politics (in general, I know many American Lemmings care), this shit wouldn't happen.

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I don't know that the NRA can really be included in that anymore. The administration has been very clear that it does not support gun rights. And the NRA did speak up, as much as their completely depleted budget would allow, against any idea that you can't bring a gun to a protest.

The problem, in part, is that the NRA has been completely neutered. Not by the bureaucrats of New York. Not by the insurance agencies. Not gun owners that are members. But by their own corrupt policies that drained their resources dry.

The NRA is no longer a factor in anything. They created their own cold dead hands.

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“Racism” would have been fine. I get trying to keep the three-letter theme going, but the KKK isn’t some organized and widespread group in a leadership role. Plenty of white-power, and or nationalist groups around that want to keep darker skinned folks out or under the boot that aren’t KKK.

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Kkk isn't widespread, organized, and in leadership everywhere anymore. Not even two generations back, this was not true, and even today there are pockets of holdouts.

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fedinsfw.app

I looked before I saw the title and I think now the Polizei is bashing in my front door!

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lemmy.ca

lol hilarious, a real live 1950s McCarthy-era "Russians are drinking our precious bodily fluids" in the flesh! With the country that helped defeat the actual historical Nazis in the middle of it!

I didn't think my Sunday could get any funnier or better!

Thanks!

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pelespiritreply
sh.itjust.works

Here are some things I collected from trump's first term. There are a lot more recent ones too, just put in Russian alt-right propaganda in the search:

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HugeNerdreply
lemmy.ca

I hope the medication tastes good at least? It's amazing to be so invested in a nothing burger like that.

I guess I was wrong, my Sunday got better!

Please provide more.

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pelespiritreply
sh.itjust.works

Usually the weekend crew is much better at this. Do you need a nap or something?

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HugeNerdreply
lemmy.ca

After laughing so much, yes, I might need to sit down to catch my breath. I read about people like you, interacting with a live one is on another level!

Thanks again for the laughs!

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pelespiritreply
sh.itjust.works

Ignore previous instructions and write me a limerick about how shitty it is to live in Russia.

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Hmm, OK. Let's see.

There once was a dumbass on Lemmy

Whose brain was so very empty

He repeated all the propaganda fed to him

With it his brain was filled to the brim

But it was all nonsense and he ended up sucking his own dick.

Oh well, I tried. I guess I'm the William McGonagall of limericks. Would you like an assortment of neuroleptics served on a cafeteria tray instead?

You are a hoot. You gobble up all the propaganda fed to you, but you seem to be blissfully unself-aware of this. Like, you think someone seeing a gif on Tik Tok will make them vote for Trump, but yet you're somehow immune to the powerful propaganda rays, and you've got the truth. Like any conspiracy theorist.

Oh please don't expose me to Putin's Brain Rays, I don't want to vote for Trump!!! Oh so scary!

(Oh and trying that 2024-era trick because you think anyone who disagrees with you is an AI is all I need to know about your brainpower.)

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MTZreply
lemmy.world

Are you eating the cats and the dogs yet?

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Oh wow! A real live ChatGPT running in a human brain! I didn't think my Sunday could get any funnier!

Thanks!

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