I wouldn't say it was centralized. They repeatedly begged over and over for volunteers to help moderate and even administrate the instance. Nobody stepped up, it seems.
They reached out to the community. The community declined their requests.
One guy stepped up as an admin. It's the owner of the new instance. He didn't have the necessary access to go in and pay the bills or have the deep server level access to fix things that went wrong.
Oh don't get me wrong, definitely donate to your instance. But it's just not possible to keep running an instance if the one person with full control of the infrastructure disappears; feddit.de had the same issue, and feddit.de/feddit.org was AFAIK always doing well in terms of donations.
Lemmy as a whole is still very much alive. We lose servers every now and then, but no server is the whole platform.
If your server disappears, look for a new one and pick one that will fit your needs better this time. Or help pay for costs if that's why it disappeared.
It's a real catch-22. The ability to spin up new servers leads to plenty run by your run-of-the-mill person with some knowledge about hosting. The downside is that it's inherently unstable due to relying on your run-of-the-mill person with some knowledge about hosting to maintain a social media server, and it's always easier to destroy than it is to create.
Each time a server goes down, there's some percentage of users and communities that won't return due to the effort of relocating and starting all over. Why go through the effort of finding a new server, especially one run the way you want, and start over when the same thing could happen within a month. It's like when a Discord server disappears, but your account gets deleted every time as well.
I think people just have to make informed desicions on what servers they pick.
Using small servers run on a raspberry pi in a shed by a single person is fine if you are that person. But if that is not your server you're better off picking a more established server that has a more proven presence.
This problem can be solved by education.
Using the email comparison, most people would pick a provider with good reputation (hotmail, gmail, protonmail). There are plenty of shite servers out there, I'm sure. But noone picks them.
I really want municipalities to spin up their own instances (or at least pay for hosted instances.)
Imagine a world in which local (and larger) governments have their instances and don’t have to rely upon corporations like twitter. @[email protected], etc.
I thought about that for a long while really. Would be so amazing for your "Local" feed to be actually, well, local!
You could see the events from around the neighborhood, yet still use your account to connect to the outside world.
The Internet and big platforms have withered local social activity and organizing somewhat, distancing us from our immediate environments and leaving all of us scattered. Would be cool to reverse this, while still enjoying the freedom of connection to everyone around the world!
I thought the issue was that the admin in charge of the domain name registration just disappeared for like a year and the other admin didn't have access to renew it. Where did you get the idea it had to do with funding?
Personally I use Voyager, a few teaks and it looks similar to Sync, but it's perhaps missing that 1% of polish that Sync has. Overall I'm happy with it though.
Might also be worth checking out Lemmy Apps which could help you narrow down your choices!
Connect is an amazing app, made by my a very responsive dev from Canada. There's no ads and it's frequently updated, I raised a couple issues in the app community and they were fixed immediately, and it's super customizable. I tried most of the Lemmy apps and it's my favourite by far, oh and it also has swipe gestures that you can customize.
Who doesn't? My friend worked for a fastener company based out of Green Bay for a while. They would give it coozies that had their slogan "biggest nuts in town" on them. Maybe that's a sample of their work.
Eternity has such a feature, "Only NSFW" is it called in the filter menu. Works okay-ish as in that it takes some time to load (I assume it has to load the whole feed and then locally filter out SFW posts)
Not for nothing but when people brag about not liking porn about blocking porn instances I just assumed they're the biggest perverts of all. Why else would they make a big deal about it? Just like how conservatives like to joke about cucks but then they're all into cuckolding porn. Same things with trans porn. It's like some kind of weird post-nut guilty conscience thing. My point is there's a lot of fucking perverts in this thread mouthing off for no reason.
Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.
In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.
This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.
This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click "Settings".
At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says "Blocks".
Here you will see "Block user" "Block community" and "Block instance". Click the down arrow below "Block instance".
This will open up a search bar. Type "lemmy.ml" and click it after it shows up.
That's it! You've blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don't need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!
But wait, we aren't done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under "Block user". Now type "UltraGiGaGigantic" Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.
If you use the connect app you can block instances, and all messages from people on that instance. You can still read them if you choose to, but i usually scroll past
I don't mind NSFW content - after all, it's a broad category - I just don't want a firehose of porn and gore. Some days that's all that's in my feed, and I have to open each one in turn to block the community.
What is the Hannibal Directive? Are you allowed to talk about the Hannibal Directive on PieFed? While you're there, also ask if Jews learned about false flags from the Reichstag fire event, or have they ever done one before that?
Exactly. Some don't use tankie instances, PieFed doesn't suit me. And again, one of my gripes with PieFed is their stance towards a social credit score.
PieFed works the same way that Lemmy does. The software is freely available to anyone that wants to download and set up their own instances.
That’s what I was mentioning with Lemmy, the software is developed by Tankies and they run their own instance (Lemmy.ml) but anyone is free to download the software and run their own server, and that’s how you have .world, .zip, hilariouschaos.com, etc.
It’s the exact same with PieFed. The guy who runs fedinsfw.app is in no way affiliated with the creators of PieFed or any other instances. He just downloaded and installed the software.
It's EXTREMELY high cost compared to centralized models. The cost per user is through the roof, and larger instances (Which are still absolutely miniscule on the web) can barely stay afloat with their costs.
I have a question/concern. When I go to fedinsfw I see a lot of SFW posts there. I haven't done much digging and I'm still a fediverse noob, are those posts showing up because fedinsfw is federated and those posts originate from elsewhere? Or are people going to fedinsfw to post non-porn? I hope people aren't going there to post SFW stuff, I feel like we might be splitting up an already not-particularly-popular website into two websites, neither of which have a catchy name.
Fedinsfw is federated. Are you viewing posts by Home, Local or All? If you view by All you will see all of the posts that Fedinsfw has access to. If you view by Local you will only see the posts on the Fedinsfw instance.
I'm saying I find it baffling people use forums for porn, and in mu opinion, these people share qualities with people who walk around with shirts like this.
Would you be able to elaborate on those two points?
First of all, calling Lemmy or PieFed a "forum" is a stretch of the term, just like Reddit. Even so, traditional forums have been used for porn basically as long as they have existed. Reddit owes a ton of it's existence to porn. LemmyNSFW was a pretty big instance. It seems like a great platform for that content too. It's easy to split content into tags or specific communities. It's easy to host still images, text posts, gifs, full videos, pretty much anything you want.
Second, what qualities are you saying that people who use Lemmy for porn have in common with people who wear those kinds of shirts? Porn is pretty widely popular. Wearing tasteless graphic t-shirts is, in my estimation, a small sunset of the population of porn enjoyers.
First of all, calling Lemmy or PieFed a "forum" is a stretch of the term, just like
By which weird definition? They are literally open forums.
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a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
"we hope these pages act as a forum for debate"
> a website or web page where users can post comments about a particular issue or topic and reply to other users' postings.
traditional forums have been used for porn basically as long as they have existed.
Yeah and it has always weirded me out. It's like those people who watch porn with their friends. Like supposedly heterosexual adult men spending their free time watching porn together? Idk man, you do you but it's not my cup of tea. No judgement. I just don't get it.
Yeah it's probably good for sharing images, but... do you have a hard time finding then yourself? The internet really isn't short for porn. Loads of sites are literally full of UHD quality videos of whatever you happen to be into.
And it's not like it's actually the creator posting stuff. >95% of the time at least it's someone horny posting someone else's picture and going "what do you like my so-and-so".
And you really can't argue that Lemmy is a good platform for sharing videos. It's just not. It's good for sharing links to videos, sure, but not videos in and of themselves.
mmy for porn have in common with people who wear those kinds of shirts
I don't think I need to define vague associations my brain made when writing a reply on Lemmy. Hard to put a finger on it, but I'm sure you get the gist of what I meant.
Yea I noticed this one too. The thing here is for the users to help with the costs, otherwise it's gonna end like lemmynsfw.
AFAIK lemmynsfw ended like it did because the main admin disappeared.
Ironically it demonstrates what happens when something is too centralised
I wouldn't say it was centralized. They repeatedly begged over and over for volunteers to help moderate and even administrate the instance. Nobody stepped up, it seems.
They reached out to the community. The community declined their requests.
One guy stepped up as an admin. It's the owner of the new instance. He didn't have the necessary access to go in and pay the bills or have the deep server level access to fix things that went wrong.
He's got a plan for his backup admins.
Yes, but I know that server cost was a thing too. Correct me if I'm wrong.
They used to post updates.
Oh don't get me wrong, definitely donate to your instance. But it's just not possible to keep running an instance if the one person with full control of the infrastructure disappears; feddit.de had the same issue, and feddit.de/feddit.org was AFAIK always doing well in terms of donations.
Sort of the Achilles Heel of the Fediverse generally speaking.
It's a loss network of hobbyists, not a self-reproducing state agency or profit motivated business.
I chose to see it as a strength as well though.
Lemmy as a whole is still very much alive. We lose servers every now and then, but no server is the whole platform.
If your server disappears, look for a new one and pick one that will fit your needs better this time. Or help pay for costs if that's why it disappeared.
It's a real catch-22. The ability to spin up new servers leads to plenty run by your run-of-the-mill person with some knowledge about hosting. The downside is that it's inherently unstable due to relying on your run-of-the-mill person with some knowledge about hosting to maintain a social media server, and it's always easier to destroy than it is to create.
Each time a server goes down, there's some percentage of users and communities that won't return due to the effort of relocating and starting all over. Why go through the effort of finding a new server, especially one run the way you want, and start over when the same thing could happen within a month. It's like when a Discord server disappears, but your account gets deleted every time as well.
I think people just have to make informed desicions on what servers they pick.
Using small servers run on a raspberry pi in a shed by a single person is fine if you are that person. But if that is not your server you're better off picking a more established server that has a more proven presence.
This problem can be solved by education.
Using the email comparison, most people would pick a provider with good reputation (hotmail, gmail, protonmail). There are plenty of shite servers out there, I'm sure. But noone picks them.
I really want municipalities to spin up their own instances (or at least pay for hosted instances.)
Imagine a world in which local (and larger) governments have their instances and don’t have to rely upon corporations like twitter. @[email protected], etc.
I thought about that for a long while really. Would be so amazing for your "Local" feed to be actually, well, local!
You could see the events from around the neighborhood, yet still use your account to connect to the outside world.
The Internet and big platforms have withered local social activity and organizing somewhat, distancing us from our immediate environments and leaving all of us scattered. Would be cool to reverse this, while still enjoying the freedom of connection to everyone around the world!
I thought the issue was that the admin in charge of the domain name registration just disappeared for like a year and the other admin didn't have access to renew it. Where did you get the idea it had to do with funding?
From the monthly reports, they used to post updates. Looks like I'm wrong on that.
I also noticed. lol
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Duknow. I found it weird to call for subscription when we don't pay the sex workers
This makes me think, what if it was a co-op? With shared funding and all that.
I think it could be cool. However that shall be asked to sex worker unions first
Hell yeah
I never used lemmynsfw much, but honestly I think things moving from Lemmy to PieFed is a positive move in general.
Lemmy Sync doesn't seem to work with Piefed though. I'm still sad.
What I would really like is the opposite of a porn or nsfw filter. I want a filter so I can see only nsfw posts. Do any apps have this?
PieFed allows this to be set for your user account, which should thereafter work for any app that supports PieFed.See screenshots in https://piefed.social/c/piefed_meta/p/1626487/more-search-options-nsfw-and-minimum-post-score.
Edit: okay I forgot entirely how this works (it's a search filter, not a user profile one), but that post explains it regardless.
That's so close. If that could be done for the profile that would be perfect.
Put a feature request into the codeberg? The devs are extremely responsive, and as you say it's so close, it might be an easy add.
Lemmy Sync will probably stop working when Lemmy 1.0 is released. It hasn't had any updates for a long time.
I hadn't paid attention, but yeah I guess you're right. I'll have to start trying out other apps. Any suggestions?
Personally I use Voyager, a few teaks and it looks similar to Sync, but it's perhaps missing that 1% of polish that Sync has. Overall I'm happy with it though.
Might also be worth checking out Lemmy Apps which could help you narrow down your choices!
I'm trying out Voyager right now. It seems to be missing the swipe navigation that I used a lot in Sync.
Connect is an amazing app, made by my a very responsive dev from Canada. There's no ads and it's frequently updated, I raised a couple issues in the app community and they were fixed immediately, and it's super customizable. I tried most of the Lemmy apps and it's my favourite by far, oh and it also has swipe gestures that you can customize.
Connect seems like a perfect Sync replacement, but it also seems to not support piefed.
Yes it does, I'm using it ATM for both Lemmy and piefed accounts.
Connect for Lemmy has been great, and supports PieFed too.
Use the local view on fedinsfw
That helps, but there is definitely nsfw content that isn't on just the one instance.
I see...
You also want to see this guy's nuts.
Who doesn't? My friend worked for a fastener company based out of Green Bay for a while. They would give it coozies that had their slogan "biggest nuts in town" on them. Maybe that's a sample of their work.
Eternity has such a feature, "Only NSFW" is it called in the filter menu. Works okay-ish as in that it takes some time to load (I assume it has to load the whole feed and then locally filter out SFW posts)
Well, I'm definitely going to give this a try. Thanks
Edit: Its last update was Aug 2024. Not sure if it is going to stick around.
Been using it since i created my account, without issues.
Yeah I spent so long going through and blocking every non porn community on my lemmynsfw account and now I'm gonna have to do it all again...
Lemmynsfw is back up as an archive now. I was able to login to it and export my settings and import them into my FediNSFW profile. My blocks are back!
Lol, I did the same thing. It's one of the reasons I haven't been to enthusiastic about FediNSFW.
Boost for reddit used to let you go to a random nsfw subreddit. That feature has not appeared in boost for lemmy unfortunately
That was a feature of reddit. Just like r/random, you could do r/randnsfw. I enjoyed that feature. Looks like they got rid of that feature.
Not for nothing but when people brag about not liking porn about blocking porn instances I just assumed they're the biggest perverts of all. Why else would they make a big deal about it? Just like how conservatives like to joke about cucks but then they're all into cuckolding porn. Same things with trans porn. It's like some kind of weird post-nut guilty conscience thing. My point is there's a lot of fucking perverts in this thread mouthing off for no reason.
“Only my sexual proclivities are morally correct!!!”
I'm just not into porn and not interested in having it all over my feed
Does this mean I have to go through blocking 9348934 communities by hand again?
Just block the instance, it gets rid of all the communities, but not users yet.
... you can't block instances unless you're self-hosting, though?
Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.
In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.
This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.
This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click "Settings".
At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says "Blocks".
Here you will see "Block user" "Block community" and "Block instance". Click the down arrow below "Block instance".
This will open up a search bar. Type "lemmy.ml" and click it after it shows up.
That's it! You've blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don't need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!
But wait, we aren't done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under "Block user". Now type "UltraGiGaGigantic" Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.
Neat, thanks.
Check settings/blocks
If you use the connect app you can block instances, and all messages from people on that instance. You can still read them if you choose to, but i usually scroll past
you mean defederation
You couldn't, but you have been able to for the past several months.
Just remove the checkmark on "Show NSFW content" in your settings.
I don't mind NSFW content - after all, it's a broad category - I just don't want a firehose of porn and gore. Some days that's all that's in my feed, and I have to open each one in turn to block the community.
I think they mean as a self-hosting admin
I think they also really enjoy skimming through soo many communities ; )
As a self-hosting admin, they can just defederate the instance.
Also, they aren't the admin of their home instance.
I'm not self-hosting.
Well damn. Now I have a whole app of NSFW. Nice!
Where do I fit in? I'm pro porn, but anti PieFed.
Why anti-Piefed?
Probably a variation of misinformation about some configurable, off by default settings: https://piefed.zip/c/fediverse/p/1005977/piefed-admin-settings-that-allow-to-enable-or-disable-content-filters-they-are-disabled-by
I don't support their social credit score system, against shadowbanning, and it's an Israeli supremists instance.
Wait, what?
Piefed.social literally had the Palestine flag as a logo a few weeks ago
What is the Hannibal Directive? Are you allowed to talk about the Hannibal Directive on PieFed? While you're there, also ask if Jews learned about false flags from the Reichstag fire event, or have they ever done one before that?
Honestly if somebody asks for clarification and you answer with questions instead of explaining, you're making a bad service to your cause
That is the clarification and explanation of where my reasoning stems from.
No, it's just some questions that require either previous knowledge or to investigate to know what you're talking about.
I don't know the answers to those questions, and given your general attitude I'm not bothered to search based on your rants.
Hence, you're making a disservice to whatever message you're promoting.
Which instance are you referring to? Case in point, lemmy is made by rabid tankies, but you don’t have to use a tankie instance.
That person doesn't seem to know
Exactly. Some don't use tankie instances, PieFed doesn't suit me. And again, one of my gripes with PieFed is their stance towards a social credit score.
But specifically you mention “an isreali supremecy instance”. Which instance are you referring to? Our discussion is around fedinsfw.app
PieFed. I'm under the impression that fedinsfw is under the PieFed umbrella. Am I wrong in that?
PieFed works the same way that Lemmy does. The software is freely available to anyone that wants to download and set up their own instances.
That’s what I was mentioning with Lemmy, the software is developed by Tankies and they run their own instance (Lemmy.ml) but anyone is free to download the software and run their own server, and that’s how you have .world, .zip, hilariouschaos.com, etc.
It’s the exact same with PieFed. The guy who runs fedinsfw.app is in no way affiliated with the creators of PieFed or any other instances. He just downloaded and installed the software.
you know it's federated, you don't need to be on piefed
the server cost could not go on without ads or users donations. rip lemmynsfw
This is a core problem with federated software.
It's EXTREMELY high cost compared to centralized models. The cost per user is through the roof, and larger instances (Which are still absolutely miniscule on the web) can barely stay afloat with their costs.
It's the other admin from lemmynsfw who has taken it up.
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I have a question/concern. When I go to fedinsfw I see a lot of SFW posts there. I haven't done much digging and I'm still a fediverse noob, are those posts showing up because fedinsfw is federated and those posts originate from elsewhere? Or are people going to fedinsfw to post non-porn? I hope people aren't going there to post SFW stuff, I feel like we might be splitting up an already not-particularly-popular website into two websites, neither of which have a catchy name.
Fedinsfw is federated. Are you viewing posts by Home, Local or All? If you view by All you will see all of the posts that Fedinsfw has access to. If you view by Local you will only see the posts on the Fedinsfw instance.
Nice, thanks!
Replying cause I also still don't really understand how this works even after like a year. Hopefully someone explains it to both of us lol
The other guy's reply seems to be correct
We really need classifications for NSFW (Content) and NSFW (Porn) in general.
I don't really understand why people use Lemmy for porn.
It's a bit like walking around with a "Federal Boob Inspector" shirt imo.
What?
What "what"?
I'm saying I find it baffling people use forums for porn, and in mu opinion, these people share qualities with people who walk around with shirts like this.
Would you be able to elaborate on those two points?
First of all, calling Lemmy or PieFed a "forum" is a stretch of the term, just like Reddit. Even so, traditional forums have been used for porn basically as long as they have existed. Reddit owes a ton of it's existence to porn. LemmyNSFW was a pretty big instance. It seems like a great platform for that content too. It's easy to split content into tags or specific communities. It's easy to host still images, text posts, gifs, full videos, pretty much anything you want.
Second, what qualities are you saying that people who use Lemmy for porn have in common with people who wear those kinds of shirts? Porn is pretty widely popular. Wearing tasteless graphic t-shirts is, in my estimation, a small sunset of the population of porn enjoyers.
By which weird definition? They are literally open forums.
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Yeah and it has always weirded me out. It's like those people who watch porn with their friends. Like supposedly heterosexual adult men spending their free time watching porn together? Idk man, you do you but it's not my cup of tea. No judgement. I just don't get it.
Yeah it's probably good for sharing images, but... do you have a hard time finding then yourself? The internet really isn't short for porn. Loads of sites are literally full of UHD quality videos of whatever you happen to be into.
And it's not like it's actually the creator posting stuff. >95% of the time at least it's someone horny posting someone else's picture and going "what do you like my so-and-so".
And you really can't argue that Lemmy is a good platform for sharing videos. It's just not. It's good for sharing links to videos, sure, but not videos in and of themselves.
I don't think I need to define vague associations my brain made when writing a reply on Lemmy. Hard to put a finger on it, but I'm sure you get the gist of what I meant.
Sadly it's turning out to be just as terrible of a place as the last one. If things don't improve we hope it goes that way too.