Project 2025 creator wants to ban gender-affirming care for trans adults
Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts recently endorsed taking care away from transgender adults, saying in an episode of the PBD podcast that the organization is currently "running the numbers" on the supposed correlation between gender-affirming surgeries and violence. His proposed solution? "You outlaw it."
"But where there continues to be disagreement is on what you do with adults. At Heritage, we believe that so-called transgender surgery is bad for anybody because of what you saw in Rhode Island yesterday," Roberts said, referencing the Monday mass shooting that left three people dead, including the shooter, and three others critically injured, all of whom were related to the shooter. Police have described the attack as targeted and domestic in nature.
"There does seem to be a mounting body of evidence that suggests a correlation between that surgery at any age, mental health issues, and increasingly, although we're running the numbers on this at Heritage, acts of violence," Roberts added, falsely.
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We should just ban white men then too, eh?
Can we?
It's probably for the best .. we have not done a very good job with most things ..
Hey!!!
.........I actually did kinda ok with the grilled cheese I made last night. I mean, it wasn't great. It was still burnt, but it was considerably less burnt!
I like that it didn't result in a mass shooting =)
Baby steps.
I feel like a large celebration is in order for this milestone in our demographic's development, white men need constant positive affirmations or we rapidly fall back into old ways and start checks notes murdering everyone who doesn't look like us ..
He conveniently doesn't mention that the shooter was also a Trump supporting Nazi.
The mass shootings are all just blending together. Which one was this?
February 16 at a high school ice skating game in Pawtucket, Rhode Island.
Strong contender for Most Useful Idiot of 2026, there. Hard to see anyone topping that with only ten months left.
For the curious..
Yes, ignoring Nazis among their movement and party is a regular feature of conservatives/Republicans.
Breaking News: Inch Given, Mile Taken, more at 11.
To be fair, they took the inch too.
A number of them beyond reckoning. Thousands.
Tens of thousands.
It’s because this choad has only one angry inch to give
Preventing trans people from physically transitioning isn't going to make them not trans.
No, but they're trying to exterminate the groups. Once they're done genocide-ing the immigrants, they'll add on the other undesirables. That's why they're making the camps so big.
I’ve been shouting from the fucking rooftops They will come after ALL trans healthcare, and indeed all other rights. No one cares. They are mostly totally ignorant of us, so they believe whatever bullshit they read.
Just like the republicans will come, and likely succeed, in overturning Obergefell.
I won’t be able to legally access healthcare, nor will I be able to marry.
Remember, all of our “activism” is because we want special rights, not the same ones that cishet white people take for granted every goddamn day.
they start with kids because they have no rights and are thus easier to oppress, and they then use that to come after the rest of us
Heritage Foundation should collectively off themselves publicly.
A Kirk if you will
If anyone wants to help out in private, I won't complain.
By his logic, if one trans person shooting folks should make all trans medicine be banned, the ridiculous amount of white male mass shooters should see all white dudes put into prison camps at birth.
Not only that, but us straight, white dudes do so many shootings that despite there really not being that many trans people they’re still under-represented. It’s not like there were only five shootings and so 20% was by a trans person, there were so many that it’s less than a percent.
It’s not just the flat numbers, but the percentages, too.
How about they run the numbers on fat cis white guys. Then compare them.
You can really see meal team six's gravy seals holding the thin crust line here!
What are those plate carriers supposed to cover?
That's a dinner plate carrier.
Lmao
There is a correlation between Christian indoctrination and political violence. I think we should outlaw that. Exposing your children to religion is traumatic and should be considered child abuse.
Opus Dei are quite dangerous, they even support slavery. Kevin is probably part of "the cult within the cult".
https://www.youtube.com/live/aqgfhZpRZhg
Caked-on Orange makeup for guys, and botox fish face for women still good though, right?
Arguably Botox fish face for women (and boob/butt/lip/cheek surgery) is also gender affirming care .. not sure what the orange make up is .. clown affirming care?
Project 2025 creator needs to feel the same type of fear that he is whipping up.
Viagra is gender-affirming care.
Excluding the fact that banning something only serve to make a less safe black market thrive be it drug, liquor, sex or gambling
White man are the biggest source of violence in the USA at least, so should we also ban manosphere cult leader like Tate and his other rapist friend and other white nationalist discourse?
They probably want the black market for gender affirming hormone therapy to be a dependency, as that means they'll be in control of the goods and prices. They also have a history of trying to extort the transgender community to force them into work as sex workers, see Epstein emails for context on this.
ok fuckhead, but make it include all gender-affirming care for everyone, trans or not.
no boner pills, no hair transplants, no leg-lengthening, no plastic surgery to change your appearance. be hypocritical more you rat fuck.
And they don’t care at all about intersex newborns being ’corrected’ to conform to whichever binary a doctor decides and totally without the person’s consent, nor infant boys having their most sensitive part cut off for 100% cosmetic reasons, again without their consent.
No, apparently consenting adults getting informed medical care is the problem.
The Heritage Foundation’s morals are completely backwards.
we must never forget this, and act accordingly. these people have defective morals. they have no right to tell any of us what's right and wrong
-Republicans
Hypocrisy is a feature of their worldview, not a bug. Them getting excluded from so-called "common morals" are just signifiers of power.
They're like the cruellest of school bullies, that's why they're also accusing of ordinary trans and gay people with being pedophiles, while their own are being involved in child sex trafficking. The cruellest thing any school bully can do is convincing the teachers that hitting back was worse than them hitting first, while continuing to torment their classmates.
Trouble is, if you take this away from trans people, some will kill themselves.
And if you take it away from angry white men, you just get angrier white men.
I am a cis gender woman.
I just found out one of my prescriptions is for a drug that is also used for gender-affirming care.
It made me so angry. I didn’t know much about that kind of care. It wasn’t my business and didn’t affect me. A patients care is between them and their doctor. Now, that I actually know what is prescribed, I realize how much stupider the whole debate is.
Just let doctors do their job. If a legitimate doctor prescribes a healthy patient something, it’s not any of our god damn business. Leave trans people alone and let them live their lives.
Amazing how the party of "freedom" chooses to ignore the nazi obsession of the shooter and instead focus on the gender identity of the shooter. How very "woke" of them.
However, let's be real here, they just want to make us all mad about this. They wouldn't go through with this as they don't really have the means to do it on a federal level. This is the issue with governance by trolling; It's pretty weak once you realize most of it is dog and pony show nonsense.
Regardless, let's all stand along the transgender community and call this shit out as it is: News manipulation to make a minority feel further unwelcome and create fear mongering around the misunderstood.
ORLY?
The Right is never bluffing about the people they want to hurt.
Not surprised, this is the main reason why I never said "Well I guess you should be 18 to transition", I knew gender affirming care bans were never going to be just for minors.
Trump himself gave up the game when he made 19 the minimum age for federal plans.
it's age 25 in oklahoma, in case you were wondering where the "your brain isn't mature until 25" lie was going this whole time
Jesus Christ
That's why I always push back on this stuff when people say it
I'm reminded of the TERFs who say "Oh so you're keeping the dick? Interesting..." while simultaneously making it nearly impossible to get Genital Reconstruction Surgery
They want us to transition as little as possible. Not because they think it will stop us from being trans but because it makes us easier to identify.
Of course he does. He undoubtedly wants to mass-murder trans people, too. Baby steps.
One of the first groups the Nazis targeted even before the night of broken glass were the LGBT. They're foaming at the mouth with rage about the LGBT, and they operate on a last-hired-first-fired basis. They'll work their way up to the Ls, Gs, and Bs eventually.
And white liberals will sit on their asses and allow it.
MLK fucking warned us about white “moderates”
Hey, at least he's not raising their taxes!
That's all still just parts of phase 1.
Shows how much he speaks bullshit here, considering there is no such thing as "transgender surgery" and it is too vague term to connect with any violence.
He goes by supposed correlation between surgery and violence, which even if correlation is true does not mean there is causation and does not justify outlawing it for everyone.
Aww. Does the poor widdle baby get confused feelings about pretty girls?
I know people who have done steroids my entire life and they are against gender affirming care
They will never understand that they are getting gender affirming care. Just for a different gender
Haircuts are gender affirming care. Clothing is gender affirming care. Glasses are gender affirming care.
Are they going to ban balding treatments for cismen too? That's gender affirming care.
Time to close all the gyms nation wide. Whatever will the gym bros do? Oh and no more cosmetic surgery for anyone.
There are no numbers. There is no correlation. This is a lie. But the harm caused to impacted people in the population will be real.
How about we stop gender affirming care for cis adults? Banning ED pills ought to do it. Also works to solve the problem of these fascists reproducing.
literally lying in order to pass policy meant to control a population should result in harsher punishment than federal prison. there is, quite literally, zero evidence to suggest trans people are more violent than cis people. these motherfuckers know that and do not care. okay, then we need to. we can't allow this to come to fruition.
I wish his anal.cancer would hurry up and kill him.
This man does not deserve the right to life.
Bullets work wonders on these useless pieces of shit.
The party of “small Government”
I did Nazi that one coming.
#HeritageFoundationAreDemons
How does this help the harvest?
Sooo... This guy planned a fascist takeover of the American government. He is going to be held liable for what he did right?
Right?
It's so fucking crazy that a handful of creepy weirdos have so much influence on this country, just because the Republicans hold power. I shouldn't have to care what an asshat like this "wants"; the rule of law should prevail and most people should be able to point and laugh at an unflushable turd like this.
Imagine if the Democrats worked anything at all like this. Some random scribbler with a weird personal hobbyhorse expresses what they want in relation to a marginalized group and the entire party acts on it.
It cannot be stated enough: conservatives are WEIRD FREAKS. The Republican Party: same thing.
Does this ghoul go out in public? Does he expect to continue to be able to live in society, go into restaurants, rent cars, go for a walk?
This is the piece I don’t understand. Do these people not have a notion of the social contract? Do unto others? How could a person knowingly be associated with something like project 2025 and just keep on trying to exist in the public sphere?
"running the numbers" more like "transgender people make me feel funny so me and all my other pals who feel funny about it reckon the transgender people must be bad and violent, why else would I feel funny about it, papa always told me feelings were for women and degenerates"
Man, if only someone was warning everyone that the Heritage pigs were pulling the strings of the Republican Party, and planted their sockpuppet as the VP candidate.
If only there was a way to stop them from getting more power. Some way that wouldn't require desperate violence.
Like, yknow, putting a cross on a fucking piece of paper.
Really? Are Americans paying that stuff with all people's tax dollars? If so I understand why your health system is so fucked up.
Wow, is it too much to ask that our big evil movements to dismantle decent society and drag us into fascism have some decent leaders??
/s
What is "gender-affirming care"?
Anything they want it to be.
I dunno brah, I can't even define 'woman' /s
Most prominent example? Trump's hair.
Actually? Any cosmetic or medical action to augment someone's identity as either man or woman.
To a transphobic bigot? Anything that deviates from strict gender alignment with sex assigned at birth.
The best filtering example is "breast reduction for cis boys in Texas", since one study looking for underage "female mutilation" found that the exactly same surgery was more than twenty times as likely to be performed on a cis boy than trans boy.
Why is it this? Why do we have to make this shit news? Why not “Young Doctor Wants to Improve Healthcare”, or “Environmentalist Wants to protect Our Forests”?
This shit gets shared everywhere because we seem to love using these assholes to piss each other off. It’s like everyone wants to be angry.
He’s a piece of shit racist homophobe. Who fucking cares what he wants?
Are you fucking kidding me? Evil people are publicly stating their planned intentions to harm people and you’re asking why we don’t ignore it to focus on fucking sunshine and rainbows?
Sticking your head in the sand will not protect trans people from one of the most influential policy makers in the US.
Choosing not to get brow beaten 24 hours a day is not sticking my head in the sand. If you like being pissed off all day, by all means- scream this shit at as many people that will tolerate it.
I’m just not a fan of standing around being pissed off while those the could stop it- won’t.
A piece of shit racist homophobe who is DIRECTLY AND INTENTIONALLY WRITING US POLICY FROM AN UNELECTED POSITION. Trump is enacting all of project 2025.
If you can't figure out why this matters, idk bro.
People in power are following the plans laid out by this group. So, it's kind of important that we know what he's saying so we know what to expect and fight against.
I agree that no one should be giving him or what he has to say attention, but under these circumstances, I think that would be dangerous.
Buddy, I don't like the culture of ragebait that the Internet has fomented either, but this isn't that. This is an LGBTQ magazine reporting on an influential figure's intentions to disenfranchise every trans person in the US.
The news in its ideal form exists to tell you about important things that are happening, not to balance itself to make you feel better about the world (and things generally are pretty terrible right now).
The examples of "Young Doctor Wants to Improve Healthcare" or "Environmentalist Wants to Protect Our Forests" are totally nebulous in what they want to achieve, ambiguous in how they plan to achieve it compared to an org that's been systemically dismantling the US from the inside for over a year, and a type of story that gets reported on all the time when it's actually consequential.
And nobody is going to do jack shit abut it, so why waste the time getting pissed about it? All this is for is to make it people angry for nothing.
He's making policy! I wanted to put that in all caps, but I didn't. Outta respect, 'cause I understand.
Why are you people downvoting him? He's right! The more publicity we give these assholes, the more power they get.
Wouldn't you much rather see The Dodo run the news? Wouldn't you rather see "Kitten cries for help and finds new forever home" in the news?
Wouldn't you rather see "Former president trump, now homeless, shits himself and dies alone"?
No. You guys give engagement to the negative stories. So thats what they report. Thats what gets controlled to be reported. And now we're all here. In 2026.
Ya know, when I was a kid, we were talking about the future with flying cars that ran on water, and anytime it rained was a free fillup for your Fcar. That's Flying Car. "Fcar".
But NOOOOOOOOOO. You guys just had to ruin it with 9/11, and the oil wars that followed. Well oil would be near worthless if cars ran on rain water. And we can't make them fly, or there'll be 9/11 everyday.
And now? Now we're at a point where food costs a mortgage, nobody can own anything, and the local hobo gets laid more often than you.
The sad part is, I'm BARELY being absurdist here.
It’s lemmy. They love being pissed off here..