10-Year-Old Ukrainian Boy Thrown Off Bridge in Germany for Not Speaking Russian
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Hope the murder charge sticks when they find his dumb ass. I don’t care if the kids were speaking demonic; you want to send something off the bridge? Do the the world a favor and send yourself
German here: if they find him, it probably will. Our justice system is not perfect, but we can usually be proud of the results.
Seriously. If you’re so insecure that you argue with children you’re already a child yourself. If you feel the need for violence toward a child, I don’t think I want you sharing this planet.
My anger says that if they want to be violent towards children, then we can throw them in with a polar bear to see what they think about stronger and larger predators attacking smaller more vulnerable people.
This hits, anyone who does stuff like that is literally a coward. Or a pyschopath.
Sounds like a healthy lesson for them.
Technically it's the opposite of healthy 🙃 But it is a necessary lesson!
Them being...?
*attempted murder
Just want to make sure that people reading the headline, but not the article, the kid survived the attack and is in a hospital.
*attempted murder
Nah they definitely will considering this is a clear case of hate crime that ended in murder + it's the Russia-Ukraine situation
The kid fortunately survived.
Glad that the kid survived, but it's still a hate crime
There is no "hate crime" in German law though. He'll be charged with attempted murder.
In this specific case yes, hate counts as base motive and escalates manslaughter charges to murder, as murder is manslaughter with base motive.
He's still going to jail for attempted infanticide, and I imagine that for a long time
10-year-olds aren't infants. It was attempted murder.
Nobody died dude
so?
Just correcting misinformation, no need for panties to get in a twist
oh my bad, the way you worded it made it sound like you were saying "nobody died so what's the big deal)
Lol it's hard to universally convey tone in text across all cultures
yeah, very true.
I had to reread the article because I thought I missed something. The 10 year old survived the attack and is in a hospital.
I dunno, there's plenty of people that need to be sent off a bridge. JS
Hexbear and Lemmygrad cheering
And yet they constantly whine about being defederated and demand to know what they've done, because clearly they've never done anything wrong ever.
The answer to the question is simple, honestly. It's because they're shitty people.
They're intentionally shitty people. None of them have real political views because they are all still in middle or high school and don't have to pay bills and don't have real jobs. They're entire purpose is to troll. They just get on here and look at what anyone is talking about and take the opposing stance to be pricks. Those people would defend any given serial killer or fascist war monger if it meant someone got upset.
No no, it's not "trolling," they call it alternative debating!
A sad bunch, the lot of them.
Sounds like they're your run of the mill contrarian cunts
They're probably just Russia disinformation bot farms for all we know. If they are real people, that's extremely disappointing to me.
Be disappointed, because many of them are real people.
There are plenty of real human fans of socialism and communism sadly.
Don't lump socialism in with what those people are doing.
fuck socialism: social democracy ftw
Why not? Same totalitarian crack heads.
Yeah, Bernie Sanders is such a totalitarian.
If you think that terrible people can't be adults with jobs I suggest you go downtown and eavesdrop on people wearing suits.
People can have “real political views” that are different from yours, y’know.
I think they’re crazy as well, but thinking they’re all just teenagers who don’t know any better is naive. Especially if you look at the US, you should know it’s full of adults with really horrible political views.
You people just can't stop making shit up. Im really mad at reddit for forcing you onto the fediverse
Are you aware that Lemmy is written by people like that? I haven't checked, but I don't think that they're all teenagers.
I just can’t wait for the damn emoji bug to get fixed. So tired of the same crappy images being posted by them on every comment thread filling up the screen and making browsing the already crappy tankie thread even worse. So glad LW defederated from them.
But then how will you appreciate the 1000 different variants on a clown face labelled "Liberals" ?? 😱
Is this something that only happens on the desktop version or what? I'm on Jerboa and people keep mentioning it but I've never seen it.
You're not missing out
Your instance is defederated from them, so you wouldn't see those comments.
You're the one whining
Children being thrown off bridges? No, no. He clearly fell. This story is clearly just capitalist propaganda. Great communist countries like China and Russia don't have murder. Everything atrocious is merely done for self-defence.
^/s^
Clearly the bomb aboard Prighozhin's plane was just defending itself
No one on hexbear is cheering for this. Wtf are you talking about lol
Lemmy.world's take on red scare propaganda
Where? I haven't seen anything like this.
Keep deluding yourself, dude.
Are these people cheering in the room with us now?
For real, people are going wild demonizing others, this is "democrats worship abortions" tier
Dude look at this guy's post history. He does the shit you're talking about
I think it's kind of funny you have 15 upvotes at the moment from people that hasn't read my comment history
I read your comment history. You come across as a young edgy contrarian. You seem arrogant and obnoxious, you act as if you're intellectually superior and yet your comments lack any real substance. Your boorish metaphors are repetitive and trite, regurgitating the same theme endlessly, that you're smarter than everyone else. It would be laughable if your fragile ego wasn't so pathetic.
This you?
If only it was bullshit. Unfortunately it's not
They can't comment here so I guess we'll never know.
No it hasn't
Good. Fuck them.
You say that like we were the ones instigating with stones thrown from glass houses...
You, seeing this horrific headline: "Oh boy, I can't wait to dunk on my hated strawman enemies with this!"
Go check out hexbear, those guys love horror stories from the west. their dicks get so hard over it it's insane.
Loving horror stories from the west the same way people here seem to love CHINA BAD stories? I visited hexbear a while back and maybe I just happened to miss all that sort of content, but I mostly just saw things like saying trans people have rights and that war is bad. Perhaps I have to actively seek it out, since I just looked at a few pages of posts sorted by active. After that visit, I've thought of people screaming about how awful hexbear is as similar to people who pushed the war on drugs and made ridiculous claims like smoking one joint will turn you into a good-for-nothing bum.
I do wonder if the people who exaggerated and invent dramatic versions of what's posted there realise we can just look at it ourselves and see they're being silly? I guess what I really want to know is do they hope people won't look or have they not looked and are just assuming it's like that?
Hexbear is glaringly a false ally to Trans people.
In one breath the say they have rights and then in another they are with China that they should be killed.
Are you saying that because they defend China on some aspects that they defend China on ALL aspects?
I'm saying that because they defended that specific aspect of China...
Do you have a link to said post?
@[email protected] Though I probably will get downvoted for my shameless self-plug and stance against them, you should read my post on Hexbear: https://lemm.ee/post/5751850. If you don't have time to read it all, you should at least read the tl;dr and the Edit 1 near the end of the post.
So you made claims which you backed up by citing a nazi sympathizer and now you're mad because they called you out on it and hurt your feelings? Are you new to the internet? I ask because those are really mild responses and you seem like you've never encountered resistance in your life. This sums up the whole situation with hexbear nicely. Some people are incredibly mad that people on hexbear don't share the same viewpoints as them and also those people on hexbear might be a little mean. I don't see why lemmy.world defederated from them, but I suppose with enough crybabies, anything can be cancelled.
I first cited a nazi sympathizer without noticing this. After they refused to accept this, I cited the UN instead. Guess what they said in the comments? That the oppression of Uyghurs is not genocide.
The comments weren't entirely mild either. Have you not seen those screenshots of comments using insults? Don't you think it's a red flag that such a large portion of hate speech on Lemmy is from Hexbear?
If you like Hexbears, you should leave lemmy.world and go make an account on an instance that has not defederated from them.
You cited the UN and made claims that the UN themselves didn't make and you were called out on that too. Yes, I read your post, so don't try to misrepresent what happened. What are you calling "hate speech"? You keep misrepresenting what others are saying and then you wonder why you get insulted. Either you're completely clueless or you're just pretending in a poor attempt at gaining sympathy. Either way, you could use the bluntness.
I had made an account on lemm.ee a few days ago, actually. Unlike you, however, I'm not obsessed with hexbear and don't feel the need to go out of my way to interact with that instance (have nothing against them, just haven't gotten around to it).
And I saw exactly what happened when Lemmy.ml federated with them. Fucking yikes. I'm glad I got out of that hell hole.
Yet if I go directly to the source by visiting lemmy.ml itself, I don't see the issue you're talking about. Perhaps you are overly sensitive to viewpoints that differ from your own?
Of course, if I tell you to taste the shit sandwich you'll say it's delicious, I'm not here to change your tastes, man. You like what you like and that's all good. But funny that you use the same regurgitated talking points all these hypocrite tankies use to justify their shit. "I just have a different opinion, you're just sensitive" and get their panties in a bunch when they get contradicted in the slightest lol
They aren't strawmen. If they were this discussion wouldn't be happening.
The comment I responded to was responding to nothing but the article itself, proposing that there are supposedly entire communities that just loves hearing about children getting killed. Essentially what you're claiming is that the mere mention of something means it must be real. If I spend my time entering every post that mentions forests to talk about bigfoot, steering the conversation in that direction, does that mean bigfoot exists?
This is just vile. I don't even know what to say. An Adult attacking Children. He should get his fascist Ass to the Frontline and get brutally murdered. I hope that the Police finds this disgusting POS and locks him up. And I'm terrified that this is happening here in Germany.
Fight on, Ukraine! You have my support till you get the last cm² of you Country back.
Wtf?
Makes me wonder where this guy came from. Is he just some German neo-nazi type or is he a Russian that is a hard core Putin supporter? If the latter, why is he allowed in Germany? Though I suppose the question holds if he's the former too.
Foreigners living comfortably in the free west while supporting authoritarian assholes in their countries of origin make my blood boil. The fucking Russian bootlickers are just one side of the coin, the Turks who vote at the fucking airport for erdogan and then come back to live in a nice liberal society are just as bad. That’s an utter farce of an election.
That bullshit makes me resent double citizenships, its neither democratic nor fair, to either society. Make your bed and sleep in it.
I am a foreigner living in Germany and it makes my blood boil too. I feel really sorry for germans that they have to deal with these assholes and if they say something about it, they are called, racists, facists or na*is. I honestly wouldnt be mad if Germany gave more strict laws against foreigners, even if that means I have to leave the country.
In my office there is a russian asshole that is the most racist, misognystic, homophobic asshole that I have ever met in my life. He is pro russia and does everything he can to support Russia and damage Germany. Like he will leave lights on or equipment on during the whole night, just to consume electricity and gas.
As an ethnic Russian who migrated West from one of xUSSR countries - this is the reason why I stay as far away as possible from the Russian minority here. Fuck them all! Plus they don't really see me as Russian because I'm not from Russia itself originally, lol.
Turkish people telling Turks how Turkey is such a good country and that we should be grateful.... while living in Berlin 😐
Probably a Russian. Too many are living in Germany while worshipping Russian nationalism.
Scratch a liberal and fascist bleeds
I'm sure you sound really intelligent in your smug little head
Actually I sound intelligent in most cases. It's just that in a room full of people trying to make a racist propaganda piece I am playing chess with pigeons
Things intelligent people never say
Well i see you as a bit stupid based om evidence. It's kind of a nowwher game with you
You running out of batteries bub?
Maybe you shouldn't tout your genius when you can't spell 'on' or 'nowhere' or use a period properly.
Ooh, he's using evidence and logics, everybody. He's spitting objective facts! He's so empirically cool. Not cringy at all
FIFY
What
Did I scratch too hard? Oh well...
German neo Nazis wouldn't bother learning Russian. They'd think the kids were speaking Russian in the first place.
Exactly what I was going to say. If it's anything like in Poland, a typical neo-natzi is either:
1 Doesn't give a fuck. 2 Does it mainly for money. 3 Can't distinguish anything.
Though again, someone could have told the number 3. what to do.
Neo-nazis are Putin supporters, strangely enough. Which makes them traitors in addition to everything else they already are.
German thread in https://feddit.de/c/deutschland about the story: https://feddit.de/post/3075089
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I imagine Russian-speaking Ukrainians will have even more and more motivation to switch to Ukrainian language as shit like that happens. Even if only for the sake of pissing Russians off and cutting out cultural connections with them
Top ten tips and tricks to de-Russofy a maximum amount of countries as fast as possible (the last one is VERY effective).
Was this in an area that voted for AfD I wonder?
12%, which is fairly average. https://einbeckerpolitik.blog/2022/10/09/landtagswahl-rene-kopka-spd-holt-sich-den-wahlkreis-einbeck/
https://i0.wp.com/einbeckerpolitik.blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/LTW-Ergebnis-Erststimmen-WK-18-Einbeck.jpg
I'm almost certain it was a Russian German. A part of their community has been a huge pain in the ass lately. After leaving Russia twenty to thirty years ago in order to find a better life in Germany, they still speak so greatly of Russia and expect Germany to bow down to Putin.
Germans are even racist to white people. edit: lol the pressed germans
THIS is racist.
All people are, look at Americans vs Mexicans
But you can assume this person is Russian not German because a German wouldn’t be able to tell the difference
Your logic is...dizzying
Usually people realise that when you substitute *racism against one group with Jews it sounds bad , apparently you are to far gone
🤡
How so? You are taking a horrific story with an individual and trying to use it as propaganda. It's disgusting and you should be ashamed
He said without a hint of irony
Assassin aragorn**? Yea , not like they just substituted ukrainian with russian
Russian state media has literally talked about how they should just drown Ukrainian children. When an individual speaks to Ukrainian children and demands they speak Russian, and then throws one off a bridge into possibly a waterway (?), it isn't propaganda to wonder if the individual has Russian ties when this happened in Germany, and it's natural to discuss the prevailing beliefs of Russians in Germany as a result.
I mean if they regularly listen to RT, it isn't propaganda to wonder if someone listened to the segment when they suggested drowning the kids.
Yea , clutch your pearls and go to your eco chamber
You're literally doing the thing people hate when they say they want to defederate. It has little to do with a difference in opinion and it has everything to do with your insufferable attitude and shitty POV. I've yet to read a comment from you that was worth "understanding" as the image claims. The less of you I have to wade through, the better this place becomes.
Dude's a shithead regardless of what language he expected the kid to speak
Agreed. Seems some people are projecting unfortunately
russian isn't a race, Einstein
I don't mean to be rude but... what is the point you're trying to make? I don't follow.
How bout I downvote you because you're an ass?
That doesn't even make sense?
Holy fuck. How much of a deranged moron are you?