Spyke

One of the episodes that had me in stitches was when he ate seafood from a dumpster then went out in his rowboat for a cruise.

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It would also kill you if it was fired out of a cannon without breaking apart somehow

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Soulphitereply
reddthat.com

Potatoes could. The leaves, sprouts, and underground stems (tubers) of potatoes contain a toxic substance called glycoalkaloid. Glycoalkaloids make a potato look green when it's exposed to light, gets damaged, or ages. Eating potatoes with a high glycoalkaloid content can cause nausea, diarrhea, confusion, headaches, and death.

Also, the sentient mutant vegetables on Atrack of the Killer Tomatoes will definitely want to do harm toward OP.

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Not to mention, if you try to swallow a potato whole (as one does), you risk choking to death.

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sh.itjust.works

From what I understand, green potatoes are rendered harmless by boiling, as the poisons are water soluble. Though they are not rendered inactive by boiling, they are diffused through the water, rendering it inadvisable to reuse for boiling other foods. Following that, harvesting these poisons is relatively easy and a good way to get Cheney, that asshole, to keep to his own fucking food.

Not disagreeing, trying to keep food waste down.

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Axolotlreply
feddit.it

I am sure you shouldn't eat raw potatoes anyway

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lemmy.world

Hey I didn't say all of them, and the chicken that defeats me in single combat is welcome to feed upon my corpse.

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This is an argument that it’s morally fair to be chickenarian

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Probably hard to from their hospital bed, but I don't see what this feast fit for a squire has to do with that.

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Wheat grain is strictly a vegetable, being an edible plant part. But people usually use the word to refer to a socially-constructed category which is completely feels-based. Membership tends to be determined by flavor profile, nutrition content, and whether the given part falls into another popular sub-category (such as fruit or nuts). This is why fruits like the tomato and pumpkin are usually sorted as vegetables separately from fruits with generally sweeter flavors like the banana or orange.

Vegetables like grains, legumes, and certain tubers will often be grouped together as "carbs" due to their high carbohydrate content which distinguishes them from low-calorie, high-fiber vegetables like spinach or broccoli.

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CannedYeetreply
lemmy.world

Wheat is a plant. If wheat was a vegetable we wouldn't need the distinction between plant and vegetable.

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There are parts of plants that aren't edible. One definition of vegetable is the edible part of a plant.

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Oh yeah? Do you think a bit of fiber finally moving all that trapped poop is harmless? We don't all have guts of steel like SOMEBODY.

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When I was on a strict diet, I actually bought 5 dollar rotisserie chicken and made a stir fry of sorts with broccoli, spinach, carrots, peas. I'd skip breakfast just to be able to have a big dinner and be satisfied going to bed. I'd try to get close to 120g of protein a day, (I'd eat half a chicken a day) and technically as much veg as I could stomach. I figure I was eating around 1500 calories a day. It worked but it was boring.

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axxreply
slrpnk.net

That's really stretching the definition of "vegetables".

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fedia.io

Would a medieval peasant have access to that much meat?

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sopuli.xyz

King Richard I was once captured for ransom while traveling undercover trough Austria.

His cover was blown specifically because he tried ordering a roast chicken.

There are a few variations of the details in this story though, a peasant could definitely have owned a chicken and eaten it when it died but it was probably way more valuable to sell it.

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Denjinreply
feddit.uk

Doubtful, most common meal for peasants would have been a sort of stew of vegetables and oats called pottage.

A whole chicken would have been prohibitively expensive either to purchase or in lost money from sale at market, same for pork or beef.

Fish though would be plentiful and cheap and a valuable source of protein. Oysters were considered peasant food until pretty much the 20th century.

Wheat bread similarly would have been a rare luxury, especially made from refined white flour, rye and buckwheat, roughly ground would be far more common.

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bitjunkiereply
lemmy.world

I read this comment in Max Miller's voice and it definitely enhanced it

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Oysters were so common that they were incredibly cheap, but they were not considered peasant food. They were enjoyed among the different classes.

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Depends on time and place, of course. Peasants in the late medieval period in England ate more meat than we do today (about 40% of their calories).

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AA5Breply
lemmy.world

A roasted bird? Why not? Y’all are making assumptions that this is a chicken and the peasant a small farmer but why not a traveling mime trapping pigeons from the square?

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lemmy.ml

Even in the 1960s eating a whole chicken would have been a luxury, this isn't peasant food, that's the gout inducing diet of a king

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ronl2kreply
lemmy.world

I doubt anyone today eats a whole chicken for lunch.

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I used to work at Boston Market, and there were definitely customers that would order a whole chicken just for themselves and eat it. Not every day or anything, but it wasn't rare enough to raise eyebrows either.

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lemmy.world

Soft white bread? Nobody but rich upper class people could afford soft white bread until well past the industrial revolution.

That's also a pretty large roasted bird that's being eaten in complete absence of stew.

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Roast chicken on a nice crusty sourdough is amazing. Get some butter or gravy in there it's a hell of a meal

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discuss.tchncs.de

fun fact: whole-grain bread is probably healthier than soft white bread anyways due to an increased content in fiber, so there's that ...

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it might be, but it still fits into the context. especially considering how peasants unintentionally might have been healthier simply due to their poverty, which might seem paradoxical.

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lemmy.world

Skyrim ass meal. need a wheel of cheese with it.

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arc99reply
lemmy.world

Try a ploughmans meal - bread, cheese and pickle. Awesome as a lunch.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

The branding of ploughman's lunch was invented in the 60s but that same Wikipedia page states it had been a common meal for rural labourers for centuries.

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arc99reply
lemmy.world

The pickle is probably the new aspect. Farm workers have obviously been eating cheese, bread, pasties, cold meats etc. since forever.

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Fermenting veggies has been around a long time too. It might not have been a pickled cucumber, but something pickled wouldn't be unheard of.

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lemmy.world

Thank you for this info. I wouldn't have thought to look into such a thing. It reads to me like it was created by marketers, though, not politicians. It says "the Cheese Bureau, a marketing body affiliated with the J. Walter Thompson advertising agency" created it in the '50s.

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Tangy pickle yes. Branston, piccalilli. Or pickled onions, relish, or somesuch.

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feddit.org

A medieval peasant on a celebration day. I doubt they could eat a whole as chicken every day

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sh.itjust.works

Depends on which era honestly. The medieval period lasted for nearly a thousand years and could vary about as much as one would expect, so for example a very well off peasant during the high medieval period maybe could have eaten a whole ass chicken for a while at least. Probably wouldn't have though, at least not without turning it into soup or a sandwich equivalent.

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Yeah communally like a couple times a year if lucky and most likely spent hens or cockrels not this monstrosity of a broiler meat bred bird.

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feddit.org

The roast chicken is usually not an egg creating machine though.
They are fairly young male chickens, that have been raised just past their maximum growth rates.

I guess that wouldn't have been that much different in medieval times. The difference nowadays is, that we have specialized breeds for egg-laying or meat production vice versa and the respective 'wrong' sex of each will just be 'discarded' right after hatching.

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piefed.ee

"What is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent chicken meal?", "Get your hand off my baguette!"

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Peasants? Even many nobles didn't eat like that every day.

People think that the typical nobleman in the Middle Ages ate like King Henry VIII. That isn't true. Did you know that they determined that at least at a few points in Vlad the Impaler's life he was basically living on a vegan diet? They ate a hell of a lot of vegetables and grains because meat was still expensive for everyone involved.

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Lucky_777reply
lemmy.world

This. You had a steady diet of vegetables and bread. Maybe eggs if you had chickens and some small bit of land. Those times were harsh as fuck

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Or our lives are abundant as fuck, which makes everything else look like absolute poverty.

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Also they weren't guzzling wine and ale at all hours and when they did drink it was usually cut with water or what they called 'small beer' and very young wine (which didn't have time to properly fermented and reach full potency) that had limited alcohol content. Also they did drink water. In the same way that in places in the world where they have limited water treatment facilities they still drink water even if it isn't the best.

Again... they weren't stupid. They might not have had the depth and breadth of modern medical technology on how alcohol affects you, but people knew what it did and they know what addiction is (even if they made it out to be a personal weakness) and how terrible it was.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

You're eating like Final Fight.
(Hits a trashcan)
Roasted chicken.
(Hits some tires)
Bread.
100% health let's go!!!

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Fun fact: the fork wasn't ubiquitous across Europe until the 1700s.

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If by "peasant" you mean "knight of the fucking round table" then yes

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lemmy.world

A few things to unpack here.

  • That chicken is roasted nicely, but I completely understand if that was bought in that condition at the grocer's.
  • Plain bread is a travesty. it needs to be either toasted and/or you need some melted butter or gravy to sop up.
  • Pair this with some fruit or pan seared/roasted vegetables. Even microwaved beans would make this nutritious. Takes very little effort, very easy to do.
  • Even peasants had access to beer, ale, or home-made short-beer/kvass. Gotta calorie-max so you can work in the field tomorrow. Plus, the alcohol helps with the constant muscle-aches and fatigue from endless labor.

There are innumerable ways to elevate this meal, but I'll keep this comment short. Anyone, feel free to message me or reply here if you want tips for that.

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edinbruhreply
feddit.it

Plain bread is perfectly fine as long as it's not one of those super dry breads

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lemmy.zip

super dry breads

Technically that's not bread. That's... Hm... Wheat buttscratcher? Anywho, a proper bread with no industrial processing is moist. :)

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edinbruhreply
feddit.it

The 0.62€ industrial baguette I buy at Despar Is fine and not dry despite being industrial

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lemmy.zip

How long does it keep the moistness? Is it still moist the next day? What about day after that?

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edinbruhreply
feddit.it

The day after it's fine. The next day it's meh. Provided you keep it in a paper bag and not out in the air

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Then it's slightly better industrial bread (was it baguette?), but yeah. Leavens or emulsifiers or weird making process lead to it. Like they also used one of the water retaining emusifiers instead of proper starch content - those tend to keep moistness for up to 48h since baking and then it evaporates instantly.

Non industrial bread keeps water longer, but more importantly loses it more gradually and from the outside in (so that at least the "core" is still moist).

(I'm not arguing pro/against breads here, or trying to, idk, shame you for buying baguettes lol, honestly just trying spread the knowledge)

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lemmy.zip

Crumb must be crumby, but "flesh" of the bread should be moist (do not confuse it with soft). Properly made bread shouldn't be wet or chewy.

When making bread you add water to the dough. Starch will keep the water and when baking, the flesh should retain it spread evenly. Industrial bread often dehydrates/dries it, as that's how it works with their emulsifiers or leavens - don't ask me why though, it's just my observation.

And you can be sure that dry bread is either old stale bread or fresh industrial bread.

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discuss.tchncs.de

a friend of mine brought me some self-made bread yesterday, and it was indeed moist, and i instantly loved it. i wish there's more bread like that one. idk why industrial bread tastes differently.

might be that they intentionally dessicate it for hygienic reasons? i.e. i imagine a higher water content might make it spoil faster.

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lemmy.zip

imagine a higher water content might make it spoil faster.

No, on the contrary, but if improperly stored in the store it could get mold, and it's more expensive to make.

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Plain bread is a travesty

This isn't plain bread, good sir, this is a baguette! Well, rather small one, but still.

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mlg
lemmy.world

No one before the 1930s had access to such a large breed of chicken lol.

They probably would have confused this picture with a miniature Turkey.

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lemmy.world

A lazy supermarket special - a roast chicken in a bag and a baguette roll picked up on the way to the checkout. We've all been there and I'm sure it makes a passable meal, but cooking is a skill everyone should endeavour to be proficient in.

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lemmy.world

Yeah but lets face it, a supermarket rotisserie chicken is generally cheaper and better than a chicken roasted at home. I dont understand the economic of it, but its true. I have up roasting chicken at home because its just never as succulent

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lemmy.world

Can confirm this will happen if you eat nothing but rotisserie chickens every day five days in a row

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Reminds me of a pretty recent game called Pentiment that's like an old school point and click adventure about a murder in a middle age German Abby where a bunch of conversations happen over meals & who you eat with can have an effect on a bunch if stuff in the game. it was pretty cool to include and I'm guessing they tried to go for some accuracy considering how much detail they use on the foods.

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😂 I don't think I eat that much meat in a whole month, but I also "cook" very simply. Quantity and taste are more important than style.

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Counterpoint: why am I only now finding out this gif exists?

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lemmy.world

Lol no. How about porridge with water every day of the week.

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Here I was wondering what's wrong with roasting a chicken. Not the most advanced of cooking skills but not bad.

Aaand he didn't even cook the chicken.

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feddit.uk

Add some veg, and some butter for the bread, and it's a good meal

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sh.itjust.works

Two? That's a whole ass chicken and a large loaf of bread. It's easily a meal for four if you add a few veggies into the mix.

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I agree, but since some chickens are small and some people are big, I figured I'd err on the side on the minimum. It sure as shit ain't one guy, we agree on that!

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You need some fiber dude, but other than that, the only other thing you're missing is a tankard of ale!

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lemmy.world

It looks basic but quite tasty if the prep and spicing has been done right.

Not every good meal has to be a Michelin Star affair, y'know. Sometimes, all you need is fries and two kroketten to be satisfied.

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A medieval peasant wouldn't waste so much work for a single meal. S/he would make a broth of it, with vegetables to make it last for days

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I'd halve the chicken, skip the bread, and add a bunch of vegetables, and some cheese, but yeah. In fact, that is pretty much what I eat as my main meal at lunchtime every day.

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lemmy.world

Am woman, would totally eat. Infact my dinner looks similar except my bread is liquid. And of course some broccoli and onions.

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lemmy.world

This was my Christmas dinner during Covid, lol. Pair it with Siracha and gravy from the roasting drippings and baby you got a stew going

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I don’t think there are any drippings. This looks like a Costco chicken with that ready to bake bread I’ve seen recently.

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lemmy.ml

I've literally been doing this for lunches. Bake a loaf of bread, have a rotisserie chicken on hand for the week, a block of cheese. Boom. Lunch.

And when I have some more time or am tired of that, make some porridge with oats and chicken. Maybe a little broth, some onions, seasonings.

Dont underestimate peasant mode. Lunch for the whole week for like $12

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Grab a head of romaine next time, slice it up and rinse it and have it in the fridge so you can grab a handful to add to your sandwich or bed under your hot chicken to catch the juices. Maybe grab an apple while you're in the produce section.

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fedia.io

Medieval peasant? Toss that sucker in a pot with some water. For the rest of eternity.

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I don’t often do a whole chicken but I do often grab a pack of chicken wings (£1.50 for more than I can eat in a single sitting) and sling them in the air fryer for 20 minutes. Man, I love chicken wings.

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