May as well go on the dark web and add your personal info to the latest database dump from whatever hackers. Will be funny once the credit reporting agencies get all the identity theft fraud from the leaked data. Of course, they’ve been breached themselves probably more than some gamer chat forum because their security is a joke. It’s like at this point, the only reason not to post your personal info is so you don’t get swatted when you make a comment someone doesn’t like about Nicki Minaj or some other asshole.
There's loads of other reasons to be anonymous online too.
Mostly for your own physical safety. Also none of this crap is about protecting kids. Middle aged wine-moms need to parent their stupid kids instead of letting the family iPad be the caretaker. Pornstars aren't at fault if little timmy sees a pair of tits or a vagina, that would be the kid's parents who are at fault
Not an unpopular opinion, I know, but I will die on the hill of Discord being the worst possible service for anyone who thinks they want to offer support for their software.
It's so comically bad for what SO MANY people use it, and is genuinely a point at which I'll just abandon the software and look for something that has an actual support forum.
I never understood the appeal of Discord or chat in general. Going all the way back to ICQ, I found it distracting. I'm guessing most people using it multitask, but I don't so I always just sat there staring at the program waiting for a reply.
I literally just did this. Except I'm not trying to drop any money into it at the moment, so I did a free hosting option (flarum).
I'm also going to hijack this comment to shamelessly plug my new forum, in the hopes someone might be willing to come join (https://unfinishedprojects.flarum.cloud/).
As an old: You kids and your TeamSpeak .. back in my day we used Ventrilo, and we were happy to have it! (uphill both ways or something about my lawn).
This is the part where my mom would mention party lines.
In some rural areas there was something like not every house had a unique phone number, but as a side effect you could just pick up the phone and talk to all the people on that same party line at once.
Squatting on a party-line to play WoW is just a wild pairing of technological eras to me. If we go by the invention date of the former they're more than a century apart (1878).
Yeah back on the days of analogue telephone lines every phone number ultimately required 2 copper wires going all the way from the nearest local exchange to the telephone handset in the home or business, so many smaller towns and rural areas got party lines as a way to save on copper and switching costs. Instead of a dedicated pair of copper wires to every house with a phone, all of the houses on a given block were on one line (all on one electrical circuit), so you'd pick up the phone and be able to talk to (or listen to) your other neighbors without dialing.
Edit to add: in some rural areas they'd even use the barbed wire fences already at farms as a wire for delivering telephone service instead of running new phone lines, sometimes even using Single Wire Earth Return to further reduce copper requirements
Back in the day my college had very strict filtering on the WiFi. I learned how to use SSH tunneling through PuTTY to bypass the firewall to connect to X-Fire. I was so 1337.
Something about it isn't as super-convenient like Discord but, Signal desktop has a pretty good screen presentation mode that works pretty well. I dunno how bad the latency is or anything though.
The thing is that Discord is sort of like three or four things all in one and it's really difficult to find a good replacement that does them all while still having a nice userbase.
TS6 supposedly has screenshare. Big drawback from my view right now is no mobile client 😕 still, probly gonna be switching any day now, at least for gaming sessions!
Haha I was just kidding, he probably was too. Genuinely down but it seems logistically tricky, if there's a haunting that needs addressed we can talk about flying me in then ;)
He sounds like a cool guy. The bit's at least as old as cheech and chong, and the core premise of "How High" is gaining the knowledge of the dead by smoking their remains to pass college entrance exams. I used to tell the kids they should scrape my lungs for resin, here's Willie Nelson to elaborate the concept :)
It's not about your age though, it's about getting your information, that's the entire problem. Don't let them tell you otherwise, they and the government are getting and keeping this information no matter what they tell you.
i mean, that if i made the account at age 13 and its now more than 5 years ago hence its of age. but that didnt roll of tounge that much so for the benefit of the joke omittet that nuance
It’s open source, decentralized (federated), supports voice/video, roles, persistent rooms, and you can self-host if you want full control. It’s basically the only thing that feels like a real discord replacement without being locked into one company’s servers.
I installed this yesterday and couldn’t find one room related to video games that had any chat messages in the past few years. I put a message in anyway, but not optimistic.
no no, i mean not sufficient in the way that cant handle voice and video calls with a stable connection between multiple people.
we wanted a discord alternative that allowed us most or all of the features of discord for our DnD campaigns and streaming to one another. it just wasnt stable for more than two or three people. let alone five lol.
not dissing it though, light tools always have their place. its just difficult enough trying to explain to a passive group of 30+ year olds that discord is the devil and we need to own the means of communication without offering a smooth(ish) transition process with similar quality and features.
If it wasn't closed-source I'd actually recommend Teamspeak for that use case. Elsewise, of the ones I've known personally the stablest would be Mumble, but the problem is the clients.
It's also important to recall that if we want to look for alternatives we have to be very willing to look for stuff that's not Discord 1:1 because otherwise what would be the point. Plus, it's unfair of us to ask full equivalence from hobbyist developers to match what a corporation that is selling our data to ensure cash flow can do.
I stood my ground on not using this useless software for like 10 years. If there was no in-game chat or voice I just didn't, but almost all games where that is necessary have it.
i made an acct last week because my lesbian game night group decided to start a ToR clan. none of us are going to age verify, so i guess we're going to get a new app. if i can convince them.
Meanwhile, I have a 16-year-old son who plays Roblox a decent amount, they do facial scanning and then put you in groups based on their assessment. Or at least that is my understanding. Dude just turned 16 this week, but they put him in the over 21 category. Granted he does have a full beard and has a ridiculously deep voice, but he did at 14 just like I did. I'm not worried about him gaming with older people though, he doesn't really want to leave the house so he's not going to get raped by some predator, plus the 21+ crowd is generally more mature. And whatever they have to say, he's probably already heard it anyway. And I dare a predator to come here lol. They'd never find him.
It's fucking wild. I want to go back to 1999 when the N64 was the hot thing and the government wasn't tracking everything everyone does everywhere all the time.
Granted he does have a full beard and has a ridiculously deep voice
Reminds me of my high school buddy that had a beard / deep voice, and looked just like his older brother. He would use his brother's old drivers license to buy beer and smokes for us.
I'm checking out fluxer but it's getting hug of death right now. Root also looks promising but they are closed source and VC backed which gives me pause.
Maybe used to be these startups would compete for user affections by being more benevolent.
But nowadays the bare basics of even being competitive in the business is having a plan for gaining critial mass and then rapidly enshittifying for revenue before selling your product users to some new private equity overlords.
Open source used to be more of just a preference, or a virtue. Now it's basically the only way to not guarantee your exploitation.
100% agree. Just wish this was common understanding amongst the masses. But here I am on lemmy and not reddit, where most folks are aligned on FOSS or death.
I'm in my mid thirties and I sure as hell am not giving my identity documents to a service that gets hacked every other week
May as well go on the dark web and add your personal info to the latest database dump from whatever hackers. Will be funny once the credit reporting agencies get all the identity theft fraud from the leaked data. Of course, they’ve been breached themselves probably more than some gamer chat forum because their security is a joke. It’s like at this point, the only reason not to post your personal info is so you don’t get swatted when you make a comment someone doesn’t like about Nicki Minaj or some other asshole.
There's loads of other reasons to be anonymous online too.
Mostly for your own physical safety. Also none of this crap is about protecting kids. Middle aged wine-moms need to parent their stupid kids instead of letting the family iPad be the caretaker. Pornstars aren't at fault if little timmy sees a pair of tits or a vagina, that would be the kid's parents who are at fault
If you use Discord as a forum for your project/game/whatever, this is the perfect time to stop doing that. Seriously.
Just install Discourse, or a commercial product such as XenForo (they have a pay-once self-hosted option), or even phpBB.
We need project forums to be discoverable, easy to access, not tied to a commercial platform.
Discord is shit as a forum anyway - it's a chat room.
It was a lot easier to find answers or reply to questions on phpbb forums.
Not an unpopular opinion, I know, but I will die on the hill of Discord being the worst possible service for anyone who thinks they want to offer support for their software.
It's so comically bad for what SO MANY people use it, and is genuinely a point at which I'll just abandon the software and look for something that has an actual support forum.
Yeah I genuinely can't stand the layout of some of the support sections in discord.
I never understood the appeal of Discord or chat in general. Going all the way back to ICQ, I found it distracting. I'm guessing most people using it multitask, but I don't so I always just sat there staring at the program waiting for a reply.
I literally just did this. Except I'm not trying to drop any money into it at the moment, so I did a free hosting option (flarum).
I'm also going to hijack this comment to shamelessly plug my new forum, in the hopes someone might be willing to come join (https://unfinishedprojects.flarum.cloud/).
As an old: You kids and your TeamSpeak .. back in my day we used Ventrilo, and we were happy to have it! (uphill both ways or something about my lawn).
This is the part where my mom would mention party lines.
In some rural areas there was something like not every house had a unique phone number, but as a side effect you could just pick up the phone and talk to all the people on that same party line at once.
Squatting on a party-line to play WoW is just a wild pairing of technological eras to me. If we go by the invention date of the former they're more than a century apart (1878).
Also: rude!
That's amazing. I'm gonna tell my mom that, she'll love it.
Yeah back on the days of analogue telephone lines every phone number ultimately required 2 copper wires going all the way from the nearest local exchange to the telephone handset in the home or business, so many smaller towns and rural areas got party lines as a way to save on copper and switching costs. Instead of a dedicated pair of copper wires to every house with a phone, all of the houses on a given block were on one line (all on one electrical circuit), so you'd pick up the phone and be able to talk to (or listen to) your other neighbors without dialing.
Edit to add: in some rural areas they'd even use the barbed wire fences already at farms as a wire for delivering telephone service instead of running new phone lines, sometimes even using Single Wire Earth Return to further reduce copper requirements
The Kinks even wrote a song about it
mIRC
My server wouldn't let you on with mIRC unless you were at least cool enough to disguise it/use a bouncer. Kept the M$ riffraff out ;)
I'm that old too!
But that's way before I started real online gaming, where Vent was during the peak of my online gaming days.
Uh oh!
Still remember my number lol
Ahh "Vent." My biggest memory there is people trolling with the sign-on TTS.
"My ROFLCOPTER GOES SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI...."
Anybody remember the brief flash in the pan that was "X-fire"? Haha
Back in the day my college had very strict filtering on the WiFi. I learned how to use SSH tunneling through PuTTY to bypass the firewall to connect to X-Fire. I was so 1337.
I can still hear the ripping jeans sound effect
Obligatory Moonbase Alpha TTS
YES!!
When I stall and forget what the heck I was saying, thanks to this video I'll sometimes just go "...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...AEIOU..."
Probably about how I'd react to having to fix a component on a moon base too. XD
"Snake? SNAKE? Saaaaaaake 🍶...."
Team speak is voice mainly, but yea.
Me and my friends use it to stream our gameplay or watch movies and stuff together. Nothing else I've seen really allows you to do that easily.
Something about it isn't as super-convenient like Discord but, Signal desktop has a pretty good screen presentation mode that works pretty well. I dunno how bad the latency is or anything though.
The thing is that Discord is sort of like three or four things all in one and it's really difficult to find a good replacement that does them all while still having a nice userbase.
Wow this felt oddly personal.
Have you never wanted to view your friends face?
Some people must have friends who have faces for radio. Lol
could be about the missing chat features.
TS6 supposedly has screenshare. Big drawback from my view right now is no mobile client 😕 still, probly gonna be switching any day now, at least for gaming sessions!
Just use a picture of your dead grandpa, I'm sure he won't mind..
I tried to do that, but some guy ran up to me and shouted something about "desecrating" and graves"
Just tell the dude you're refilling the grave, as you toss the bones back in...
People really need to learn how to mind their own fucking business. Sheesh.
I figure ai probably knows what ai is looking for, so I'm just going to generate a fake selfie if I need to.
Is it even looking for black and white / greyscale photos?
What if I give it a B&W of my own face? 🤔
I assume they fixed it, but I heard a few months ago gmod models were working.
I am Heavy Weapons Guy, and this is my ID Verification.
Discord will be using video verification
Should I dump the ashes out or leave them in the urn?
My dad wanted us to roll his ashes into a joint and smoke him.
We respected his wishes to be cremated, but I'm sorry daddy, I don't think anyone's gonna be smoking your ashes..
Coward. I'll blaze your dad, hmu if he starts haunting you over this
Umm, okay. I still have ashes available, you gotta roll it and smoke it yourself though..
Haha I was just kidding, he probably was too. Genuinely down but it seems logistically tricky, if there's a haunting that needs addressed we can talk about flying me in then ;)
Have you seen "How High"?
I was just joking too, but dad seriously said that, almost every time we had friends over and a doobie going around..
He sounds like a cool guy. The bit's at least as old as cheech and chong, and the core premise of "How High" is gaining the knowledge of the dead by smoking their remains to pass college entrance exams. I used to tell the kids they should scrape my lungs for resin, here's Willie Nelson to elaborate the concept :)
They need a phoyo AND valid ID like drivers license
I thought the articles were just listing both as options
i can find norman reedus's drivers id with enough digging
My discord account is old enough to buy alcohol but yet they think I’m 13 because I play Minecraft to much while discord is open.
Right. I should be able to be common sensed through age verification at this point.
It's not about your age though, it's about getting your information, that's the entire problem. Don't let them tell you otherwise, they and the government are getting and keeping this information no matter what they tell you.
Your discord account is older than discord? How did you do that?
i mean, that if i made the account at age 13 and its now more than 5 years ago hence its of age. but that didnt roll of tounge that much so for the benefit of the joke omittet that nuance
Also it makes no god damn sense.
sir this is a wendys
Matrix + Element.
It’s open source, decentralized (federated), supports voice/video, roles, persistent rooms, and you can self-host if you want full control. It’s basically the only thing that feels like a real discord replacement without being locked into one company’s servers.
I installed this yesterday and couldn’t find one room related to video games that had any chat messages in the past few years. I put a message in anyway, but not optimistic.
We have to invade and propogate!
Same picture with FPV or vintage HiFi.
be the change you wish to see in the world.
now is the perfect time to assist in this developing landscape and make into something we can actually call our own.
You can't order or group chats on Matrix.
Depends on the client. Nheko can group for example.
You mean to say XMPP (eg.: Snikket + Conversations), right?
i like how light it is, but its just not sufficient for a 5 person DnD/gaming group like mine.
Not sufficient as in not sufficiently light? IRC (eg.: ngircd) is even lighter!
no no, i mean not sufficient in the way that cant handle voice and video calls with a stable connection between multiple people.
we wanted a discord alternative that allowed us most or all of the features of discord for our DnD campaigns and streaming to one another. it just wasnt stable for more than two or three people. let alone five lol.
not dissing it though, light tools always have their place. its just difficult enough trying to explain to a passive group of 30+ year olds that discord is the devil and we need to own the means of communication without offering a smooth(ish) transition process with similar quality and features.
Oooh!
If it wasn't closed-source I'd actually recommend Teamspeak for that use case. Elsewise, of the ones I've known personally the stablest would be Mumble, but the problem is the clients.
It's also important to recall that if we want to look for alternatives we have to be very willing to look for stuff that's not Discord 1:1 because otherwise what would be the point. Plus, it's unfair of us to ask full equivalence from hobbyist developers to match what a corporation that is selling our data to ensure cash flow can do.
Yes! I'm joining "the young people"!
What do we do nowadays? Are we still tubular?
I think it'll be neato.
Such a hip cat, daddio.
Hell yeah, dawg, that shit’s hella tight, fo rizzle.
I hope irc comes back.
irc never left, we just stopped using it
I fucking love Music/Band, those guys fuckin’ rip.
I stood my ground on not using this useless software for like 10 years. If there was no in-game chat or voice I just didn't, but almost all games where that is necessary have it.
How validated I feel as it crumples.
i made an acct last week because my lesbian game night group decided to start a ToR clan. none of us are going to age verify, so i guess we're going to get a new app. if i can convince them.
Are you a bad enough lesbian to set up matrix?
This is amazing. Especially out of context.
Arent all of us 56 years old this year?
I turned indeed 56 on Jan 1
What a coincidence! Me too!
April 20th here
keep up, we turned 57 this year dude
Meanwhile, I have a 16-year-old son who plays Roblox a decent amount, they do facial scanning and then put you in groups based on their assessment. Or at least that is my understanding. Dude just turned 16 this week, but they put him in the over 21 category. Granted he does have a full beard and has a ridiculously deep voice, but he did at 14 just like I did. I'm not worried about him gaming with older people though, he doesn't really want to leave the house so he's not going to get raped by some predator, plus the 21+ crowd is generally more mature. And whatever they have to say, he's probably already heard it anyway. And I dare a predator to come here lol. They'd never find him.
That's....SO creepy.
It's fucking wild. I want to go back to 1999 when the N64 was the hot thing and the government wasn't tracking everything everyone does everywhere all the time.
Thank you 9/11
Reminds me of my high school buddy that had a beard / deep voice, and looked just like his older brother. He would use his brother's old drivers license to buy beer and smokes for us.
Wouldn't mind being a teenager again. Ok, maybe not these days, but in general.
I backed up local copies of a couple of chats with some stuff I actually care about, using Tyrrrz DiscordChatExporter 2.43
just use the broccoli from veggietales worked for me
Oh I thought we were taking discord out back…
You can already pretend to be a kid in a room with other kids on discord! There's a HUGE CSAM problem on it.
What's that? Is it like IRC with a GUI? /s
switched straight to teamspeak
that's the app we used playing dayz thank you i could not remember
I'm checking out fluxer but it's getting hug of death right now. Root also looks promising but they are closed source and VC backed which gives me pause.
Basically a non-starter at this point.
Maybe used to be these startups would compete for user affections by being more benevolent.
But nowadays the bare basics of even being competitive in the business is having a plan for gaining critial mass and then rapidly enshittifying for revenue before selling your
productusers to some new private equity overlords.Open source used to be more of just a preference, or a virtue. Now it's basically the only way to not guarantee your exploitation.
100% agree. Just wish this was common understanding amongst the masses. But here I am on lemmy and not reddit, where most folks are aligned on FOSS or death.
I'm 42. My wife is 40. Are we too old for discord?
Probably?
Until you give them your official government ID, you're 13 as far as discord is concerned
Lol