Spyke

There's actually a way to make a question so that you can receive 3 possible answers

0, 1, or [No Response]

Or depend on how soon they have to send the answer, more info can be relayed... i mean if the the bit was sent to 1PM and it can mean a different meaning if that same bit was sent to 5PM

So you can actually just write one LONG quesrion that list out a bunch of answers like a multiple choice question:

If answer is [Response A], send "0" to 1PM, if answer is [Response B], send "1" to 1PM, if answer is [Response C], send "0" to 2PM, if answer is [Response D], send "1" to 2PM, if no response, we'll assume ur dead, from the options aforementioned, What [Question Here]?

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Ediacariumreply
feddit.org

Once you're able to use time as an information, they can send a message with a character limit. For every letter they need to wait:

Remaining Message Length^Alphabet Size*Index of Letter*time interval

So, if future people want to sent the message hello and our time unit is 1s, and the max message length is 5, they need to send the bit to exactly 26^4*7+26^3*4+26^2*11+26^1*11+26^0*14 = 3276872 seconds or 54614,5333min or 910,242222h or ~38 days after the start time.

We can choose smaller time intervals, but with a long enough message, we'll eventually reach the year 3000 again. Alternatively, we can move the start time into the past, at the expense of quite a few possible messages.

This is the same problem as trying to map an n-dimensional array to a one dimensional array

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Ediacariumreply
feddit.org

If you're not asking about anything that we currently don't have a word for, we can use words as the alphabet, sure.

We then need to transmit a list of words, they're allowed to use, otherwise our count is off, because I'm sure that 974 years from now english won't be the same, as it is today. They'll have a lot more skibid rizz than we do now.

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use Chinese xD

logographic languages tend to last longer, especially now all the characters are digitized.

A "Computer" didn't exist in ancient times, but they still used words that have always existed to create new compound words: 电脑 ("Electric" + "Brain"). Airplanes didn't exist but they still came up with the word 飞机 ("Flying" + "Machine")

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You can't send bits at a constant rate in this case. You essentialy get to send one very large number, the amount of time since your decided starting time (plus the one bit we were actually intended to use). The bit count grows logarithmicly with time

Thus, the amount of bits n you can send over t time steps would be

n = log(t)/log(2) + 1

As an example, say they wait 8 seconds before sending you a 1. You have received the number 1000 and the bit 1. That's a total of 5 bits.

If they choose to wait twice as long, 16 seconds, they have in effect transmitted the numbers 10000 and one additional bit, a total of 6 bits. Double the time but only one additional bit.

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that's more than one bit, though, which is part of the question's constraints. In practice that means [No response] would be the same as indicating 0 or even 1 and they cannot convey additional information by controlling for time of receipt, likely because they can't control time of receipt

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lemmy.ca

if no response, we'll assume ur dead

And there was no response, for Ur - the city - died millennia ago. If only Skippy had stayed in school.

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lemmy.world

If we're talking binary, the most common response will likely be...

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In the year 3000, comedy has reverted back to the year 2000. What is this, a year for ants??

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Thank you for saving me the effort of putting that and not knowing how well it would go down. Do Americans know of Busted?

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lemmy.world

The annoying thing is we won't be able to know if we can trust the answer. I f you'd ask now there's also people who'd say yes.

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Are we on the right track with physics right now? 1 for yes; 0 for throw it all away and start as fresh as possible.

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Year 3000, every single human is born from a biological reactor, they're genetically modified to be subservient and strong and infertile. Everyone on earth serves and praises the few remaining masterminds who locked their brains in jars, kept alive by nutrient tubes

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Assuming quantum computing has finally delivered on its promises by that time, how would I interpret that single bit?

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Put it in a box with a cat, a vial of poison and a decay timer that releases the poison. Obviously.

Edit: Just what is this downvote supposed to mean? Someone get me a box.

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turboSnailreply
piefed.europe.pub

They’re just backup copies hosted in the Galactic Museum. There’s no way a species that stupid would survive long enough to invent FTL travel. Just surviving the nuclear era was borderline miraculous.

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murmeladereply
lemmy.ml

Way out in space, two aliens are watching Earth and talking to each other.

The first alien says, “The dominant life forms on the Earth planet have developed satellite-based nuclear weapons.”

The second alien asks, “Are they an emerging intelligence?”

The first alien says, “I don’t think so, they have them aimed at themselves.”

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Enjoy the fireworks from a safe distance. I think the Low Earth Orbit is too close. Always wear protective goggles too. The flashes can be very bright.

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Are we still alone? 1 for no, the xenos are out there. 0 for yes, we killed them all.

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