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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Isn't this a legally the situation where you're allowed to just fill them with lead?

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lemmy.world

Yes, but since we brilliantly decided we were good with militarizing the police, expect for them to respond with a battalion's worth of goons that will absolutely mow down anything that moves without question. This is America.

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hemkoreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

So you'd need to take them out before either of them manages to call help, then call cops yourself that armed and masked men attacked your home and are laying dead AND then hope those cops won't just shoot you up themselves

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BlueDemonreply
lemmy.sdf.org

Isn't it the US that levelled a residential block for similar?

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Yes*

I don’t know about Texas in particular, but regardless you’re very unlikely to survive the experience if you do

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Warl0k3reply
lemmy.world

TL;DW: Only if the cops shoot at you first.

Which is correct - even in states with insane self defense laws, you're not allowed to kill someone just for breaking into your house.

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sh.itjust.works

I thought in Florida you could shoot people in your yard, especially if they aren't wearing the correct skin color?

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I live in Florida and that is indeed the case. As long as you fear for your life. Just say the magic words after.

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Jo Miranreply
lemmy.ml

That's the TL;DW of the second video.

The TL;DW of the first is that the ICE goons can walk into the house without a warrant.

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Land of the free.

Police can walk into your house without a warrant.

Police can sieze any property without a warrant (civil forfeiture)

Police can shoot your dog, or yourself, if they "feel threatened".

If, despite all they can do, the do something they can't, they get a few weeks of paid vacation.

Land of the free.

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ICE goons can walk into the house without a warrant.

Americans will be on the path to reclaiming their country when the goons start to fear doing so.

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programming.dev

Do we know these are ICE? Looks like the only indication is their gear saying "POLICE." Could be any police or anybody really?

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I've seen a lot of them putting that on their jackets. They are trying to muddy the waters on purpose.

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lemmings.world

Why we let people this fragile be employed in enforcement is beyond me.

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Homie, it's a feature of the police, not a bug. There's a saying: "the purpose of a system is what it does." This is why calls for 'reform' are futile. Only broken systems need repairing. This one is functioning as it was always intended to.

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Is it me or they don't have a fucking idea of what they are doing?

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lemmy.world

I mean technically the law allows you to shoot and kill people coming into your home if you fear for your life. They would have been justified in shooting these criminals breaking into their home.

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And then what? 3 gestapo members just got shot, we better leave him alone

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lemmy.world

I've got a device that quickly solves these problems. Guaranteed that upon its use, the invader's behavior would be significantly modified from that point forward. In fact, many people in the US own this kind of device as well, and the right to operate these devices is enshrined in the constitution for this exact scenario! Maybe It's time for people to start exercising this right.

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lemmy.ml

It's hard to say exactly what would have happened, but there absolutely would have been several effects. A lot of the bravado you see from these pigs is because they don't really fear any kind of consequence. Imagine the resources necessary to do what they are doing now, but for them to still feel safe in an atmosphere where armed resistance is likely.

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lemmy.world

Disagree. If one ICE gets shot, it’s cassis belli to be even more brutal. And the resistance loses the moral high ground. And the fence-sitters.

And it isn’t as if Alex shooting one or two would have saved him from the eight others.

Nothing gained, only lost.

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Well, Alex Pretti got shot either way. If he had taken a couple with him I would call that something gained.

I think a major point here is that these goons can act with impunity because most people haven't internalised yet that if you're being arrested or raided by them there's a high chance you'll be killed or disappeared to El Salvador. At some point, the best you can do is just to try to take a couple of them with you. Once people start treating interactions with them as the life threatening situations they are, they're going to have a lot harder of a time.

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NGC2346reply
sh.itjust.works

Americans are, for the most part, brainwashed out of any sort of rebellious thought. Therefore, they won't defend themselves, they will film, screetch and seethe.

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Filming is somewhat effective at this stage. People need to know what is actually happening, as the country is really big. When the retaliatory violence starts, it will likely be after one of these videos shows a massacre.

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