Spyke
sh.itjust.works

Cereal is the most delicious thing in the universe that doesn't require anything more than pouring two things into a bowl. No peeling, heating, mixing, blending, layering, etc. Two things, in a bowl, and what you don't use goes back in the place it came from.

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lemmy.world

That bowl was a little big for me, I'll just drain the milk back into the jug and put these soggy bits back in the box.

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deHagareply
feddit.uk

That money went nowhere near any kids with flies in their eyes. The government got their cut though, and then used food as a weapon, literally as bait to capture rebels who were then abused

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Pennomireply
lemmy.world

If you use a funnel to pour the cereal into the jug, you can have a swig of soggy bits on demand!

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lemmy.today

I've seen a few people attempt to open a "cereal milk" restaurant, where you can order CocoPuff milk, Cinnamon Toast Crunch milk, Fruity Pebbles milk, etc.

The few I've seen have flamed out pretty fast, which is predictable for an idea that was obviously cooked up by a couple of rich college kids while passing the bong, and then convincing their wealthy fathers into coughing up the starting costs.

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I've seen it written about at least 3 different times, in different cities. Like I said, it's the kind of an idea that sounds like genius when you're baked.

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alaphicreply
lemmy.world

Until one day, when you're eating soup and innocently toss in some croutons, only to realize that what you're eating is essentially cereal: savory edition, which you find so inexplicably disgusting that you can't even stomach the thought of regular cereal for a depressing amount of time

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lemmy.world

Neither coffee nor vanilla is a bean. Coffee is a seed of the coffea family and vanilla is an orchid

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Soup is a dish preparation. While I am fine with arguing that even drinkable coffee is a soup or broth and cereal has soup like properties. No, coffee is a very different part of the plant kingdom than legumes or orchids. If you just call a blue whale a bird, it does not become even remotely true.

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FishFacereply
piefed.social

Who is out there saying soup had to be vegetarian, or that croutons make soup not soup? Half of the chart is a waste of potential controversy

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slrpnk.net

I think that with enough sauce, chicken alfredo becomes a soup. Where do I fit on the chart?

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That would be ramen Alfredo, so you’re not quite a soup anarchist, but that’s probably for the best.

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Okokimupreply
lemmy.world

"Ugh I hate clam chowder. Its just hot ocean milk with dead animal croutons."

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curiousaurreply
reddthat.com

Or embrace savory cereal and put cheese, sour cream and hot sauce into oatmeal. Trust me.

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FishFacereply
piefed.social

That only happens if you reverse your arbitrary categorisations and let them dictate your feelings about things, instead of realising that categorisations are a) arbitrary and b) can be refined.

Cereal has to, at least, involve a cereal like rice or oats or whatever as the main ingredient.

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alaphicreply
lemmy.world

You mean, like... Corn?!?!

Vegetable soup (with corn) has entered the chat

And my point stands.

Also, you and your strict interpretation of 'cereal' have room to talk right after lecturing me about arbitrary categorizations... Sounds like someone needs to take their own advice, eh? 😋🙃

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It’s the best when you’re baked too. It really helps with the dry mouth

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village604reply
adultswim.fan

You don't even need to add 2 things together. Cereal is great on its own

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sh.itjust.works

I've yet to meet a cereal that was better dry. Some came damned close (Cracklin' Oat Bran is my fave), but still not better.

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Life?!? You're technically correct because Life is awful with milk, but Life isn't anything more than an ingredient for homemade Bits & Bites.

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sh.itjust.works

You're right, only because they suck at being cereal. It's boxed gruel disguised as cereal.

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Ehhh, other cereals are just sugary gruel. I’d prefer fewer calories directly from sugar / corn syrup in my diet.

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Depends which cereal we're talking about. I've watching those 'lets make lucky charms / something with chocolate' videos and they're basically making a complicated soup, solidifying it, and cutting it up into tiny pieces, just to make a basic soup of milk afterwards.

The weirdest thing to me was realising zalot of cereals already contain milk. Actual liquid milk, that is, baked in.

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lemmy.ca

I'm still can't believe some crazy guy 100 years ago convinced the whole country that eating sugar with milk is somehow a healthy breakfast. And the same guy convinced the same country to do the genital mutilation on male infants.

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zalgotextreply
sh.itjust.works

You're combining the two Kellogg brothers. One thought that pleasure was sin, and that a good diet should be as bland as possible to maintain piety. The other thought his brother's cereal tasted like shit and was really hard to market and sell, until he added sugar and salt, then subsequently became filthy rich.

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Ironically, pre-sugared cereal may have also reduced the amount of sugar in kids' cereal. For a while, kids were taking regular cereal and dumping sugar on it. Instead of actually parenting and telling them no, the parents started buying sugary cereal.

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Cortreply
lemmy.world

And both were done with the goal of reducing masturbation.

Knowing better has a full day's worth of content on this, if you'd like to know more

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Fuck that guy. I'm gonna go buy a box of corn flakes and eat it while I jerk off all day.

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chatokunreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

? I thought both Jackson and Kellogg didn't like sugar? Kellogg even believed excitement caused masturbation, and wanted bland unexciting food was the way to go. That and dick piercings that would make erections painful.

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Kellogg's theory was that bland foods that were full of fiber would stop people from masturbating.

Because he didn't approve of that kind of icky nonsense.

So I think the sugar came later.

I think Graham of Graham crackers was working with a similar concept.

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I'm always blown away by these tiny cookies. They came after me and bought them for fun once. I couldn't even eat them, they are beyond sweet. Eat some cookies for breakfast fatso

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lemmy.world

To be fair, my husband will just have 6 bowls of cereal in a row all of a sudden.

But my son… here he is with his mixing bowl.

Edit: when my son went through a miso soup phase, he would get the big mixing bowl and use a whole block of tofu. Probably straight up 2L of miso broth. For context, he is 6’2” and 19.

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ceenotereply
lemmy.world

Your son is producing fewer dishes. Be better, husband.

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ickplantreply
lemmy.world

Husband does reuse the bowl though. He is not a monster.

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Drusasreply
fedia.io

You should introduce your son to Korean soups/stews. If he likes miso soup that much, he'll find some favorites in Korea as well. I'm especially partial to spicy doenjang jigae (a Korean miso stew--you can mostly use the ingredients recommended to add to the broth as suggestions and use whatever you like because it's all about the broth).

This is very similar to how I make it except that I use packaged dashi and usually use shellfish and leafy greens, sometimes noodles (udon or dangmyeon glass noodles): https://www.beyondkimchee.com/doenjang-jjigae/

It's easier than it sounds. Put dashi packet in water. Heat then remove. Add doenjang, gochujang, garlic and heat up/mix. Add solid ingredients of your choice and heat until cooked through. Add green onions (optional, I guess, but c'mon). Eat.

So good. Thank you, Korea.

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He would probably love that. He does love some Korean instant noodles. Thank you so much, I shall be trying this!

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It's not substantially more difficult to make than it is to make packaged foods.

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We had a 4 box treaty, no more than 4 boxes of cereal could be opened at a time.

Leading to box reckonings where multiple bowls would be eaten to bring “peace to the kingdom”

🫠

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5714reply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Are the tofu blocks in America bigger or something, because 200g tofu isn't that much of a deal.

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TIL Canada has small blocks of tofu.

I've bought tofu in the US and in Japan and the standard block is the same size in both (approximately--400g in Japan; 14oz in the US). Can vary slightly by brand and it course smaller options are available, but that's the usual size for at least those two.

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fedia.io

It takes an enormous amount of energy to grow. One of my friend’s sons actually has stretch marks because he grew so quickly one summer.

Within limits, I think teenagers have a license to eat ridiculous amounts of food.

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NABDadreply
lemmy.world

When I was a teenager, my mom made some baked pasta and brought it with a 2 liter Pepsi to me while I was working on stage crew at the high school.

I took it up to the spot light booth and ate it.

When I got home she asked me how everyone liked it. I told her I ate it all. She said she made enough for the entire stage crew. I told her she was wrong, it was only enough for me.

I hit 6'4" tall when I was 14. At my lowest weight at that height, I was 165 pounds.

I wish I had been taught to eat a single serving, wait, and then eat more if necessary. It wouldn't have made a difference at the times when I needed to eat like twelve people, but it would have made it easier to stop eating like twelve when I didn't need to.

However, I've had smaller adults try to tell my kids that they were eating too much. How can you meet me, get a pain in your neck from looking up at me, and still think you understand how much my kids need to eat?

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MentalEdgereply
sopuli.xyz

I wish I had been taught to eat a single serving, wait, and then eat more if necessary.

My parents kinda did.

They did prevent us from eating more than about a plateful in one go, but it was never done in such a way so as to shame us.

If we were still hungry 15 minutes later, then yea have some more.

In the same vein, our parents made it a point that if we were hungry, we could eat. Wake up in the middle of the night hungry? No worries, fix yourself a sandwich or whatever else. They never, ever, shamed us for eating when hungry.

It was always "are you really still hungry" or "careful, too much too fast and you'll feel like throwing up" and also "don't forget to eat, I bet you're hungry by now" when we got old enough to prepare meals for ourselves.

Food was never off limits at home, and the amounts were always about feeling good. Enough to be sated, not so much you felt sick.

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tomkattreply
lemmy.world

My wife and I have been working out and losing weight and now the question is "am I hungry, or is it lonely mouth?"

Though I'm burning so many damned calories it's usually I'm really hungry. 🥺

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God this was my brother, by 14 he was 6'1 at one point his growing pains where so bad that a doctor gave him fucking pain killers. And the good shit at that.

Not to mention the sheer glut of food he could eat. I was a highly active runner and still growing my self and God damn he could eat circles around me.

We would have lost the house if food costs what it does now back then. My poor mother.

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oh yeah, I remember being able to eat an entire large pizza and 32 garlic bread bites in one sitting as a teenager

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lemmy.world

It’s human kibble basically

Try this:

  1. instead of a giant bowl pour a regular bowl with extra milk
  2. when you finish the cereal do not drink the milk
  3. pour more cereal
  4. repeat as desired
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lemmy.world

I unironically wish this was a thing. And was halfway decent and nutritious.

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This is what I would refer to the extra big bags of cereal as when living with a friend and it was his turn to do grocery shopping.

"1x bachelor chow cinnamon crunch, 1x fruity pebbles."

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87Sixreply
lemmy.zip

... Too warm?

You guys don't eat the cereal milk heated?...

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lemmy.world

Are you saying you heat the milk you pour in cereal? What in the actual fuck?

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87Sixreply
lemmy.zip

Yes??? I heat it as hot as soup would be??

Y'all eat it cold from the fridge???

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lemmy.world

Like sugary breakfast cereal or like instant oats or oatmeal cereal. Because if we're talking about hot milk in sugary breakfast cereal then I'm equal parts horrified, disgusted, and fascinated. Why, how did you start heating your cereal milk?

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87Sixreply
lemmy.zip

Idk??? I guess my parents always did it and I kept doing it until I'm now in my 20's

I eat all kinds of cereal. Nowadays I do half simple corn flakes and half oats with chocolate chips so I don't take in tooo much sugar

When I was little my parents would always buy sugary cereal.

Well...

I guess I just found out not to do this around other people LOL

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Corn flakes, and oats in hot chocolate sounds more like a confection than breakfast but hey man let your freak flag fly. Be sure to stay on top of the dental hygiene!

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lemmy.world

Cold coffee tastes great, hot coffee tastes great. Room temp coffee… not so much.

Same applies to countless other things as well.

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lemmy.world

When I was a teen in highschool... I was in a weightlifting gym class and I did soccer. When is get home, for a snack if have a party pizza (or two). Probably went through a carton of milk myself. God my mom was so pissed. I was probably half or grocery budget alone for a few years

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tetris11reply
feddit.uk

I've got a cousin like you -- football club all day every day. Ate like a wolf and ran it all off within an hour.

Then he quit football and chonked up because he didn't know how to reduce his food intake

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lemmy.world

Oh man, that hits home... just before COVID hit, I was doing 5k's and got injured. And I didn't transition to a lower calorie intake to adjust to the lower physical activity. Just as I was starting to get back into the gym... COVID landed and the gym was closed. Now, I'm a fat bastard. But trying to work on that.

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I mean I think it happened to all of us. I used to cycle 30km a day before COVID, and then once work became fully remote, I just started hibernating for winter and never stopped.

Also a fat bastard, but I live in the hope that it's nothing that a gym can't fix. Here's to 2026, friend!

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I had a project to track my calorie intake for a few weeks when I was 15. It was over 7000 calories a day.

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chewypoopsreply
lemmy.world

Cereal isn't food? I am curious to hear your logic here...

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HugeNerdreply
lemmy.ca

I'm sure you could scarf down an entire party size bag of Doritos on your own as well. That doesn't make it a good or preferred source of nutrition.

Try asking the kid if he can routinely scarf down a dozen eggs every morning. He won't, unless he's the size of Andre The Giant, because that's actual food that will correctly signal satiety.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/are-breakfast-cereals-healthy#sugar-carbs

Anyways I assume the story is referring to the industrial sludge Americans call "breakfast cereal", garbage that is designed to be addictive. And not, say, some kind of ancestral Kashi type of thing.

If it were actual food, you wouldn't be able to eat so much of it. Nothing in nature would have been easily available in industrial quantities like that, making it extremely unlikely we evolved to eat so much of it. It's engineered to be that way.

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Holytimesreply
sh.itjust.works

I could eat an entire fucking box of plain "corn flakes" if you let me when I was 16. No sugar, no milk. Was some store brand knock off cereal too. Didn't even have added sugar. Was basically cardboard flakes.

But fuck did I love them. I miss those shitty ass cereals now everything has a pound of added sugar ):

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tetris11reply
feddit.uk

I do NOT buy cereal for this reason. I have no restraint. Whether it be Bran Flakes (lovely), Special K (mmm!), or Crunchy Nut (oooh my god!), I will scarf the entire box down with milk in about 20 minutes whilst watching cartoons.

So I don't buy it. I know what I'm like. Thank god I never took up smoking.

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"But once I've got my Wheatabix, I know that I'll survive, I'll survive..." I know their adverts very well :P

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Hm. I remember I ate 6-8 scrambled eggs with two packed sandwhiches for breakfast when I was a teen, and I am only average height.

On the other hand, once my metabolism slowed down I started inflating like a baloon and had really hard time learning how to eat less xD

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jpepsreply
lemmy.world

I remember visiting some friends in the US they were so excited to have us try all the famous cereal brands like Fruit Loops etc. It was so sugary it was totally inedible to us, absolutely disgusting.

That said there obviously is cereal out there that can be eaten healthily.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Ah, so you're British or? Because I've brought plenty of American candy and snacks over to my Danish colleagues and they fucking love them.

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British, yeah. We just didn't anticipate cereal being so sugary. I also couldn't handle the drinks either lol. Seeing so many people drinking these huge drinks and knowing it was real sugar and not even a substitute is honestly one of my main memories of being in the US, which feels pretty sad. Amazing views at least!

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w3dd1ereply
lemmy.zip

It won’t last forever. It will rot the day after I buy it.

-_-

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antimidasreply
sopuli.xyz

Keep them in a well ventilated space, if they rot too quickly it may be due to ethane making them ripen too fast. A mixed fruit bowl is one of the worst possible ways to store fruit.

Apples offgas ethane as an example, making other things around them ripen faster. In a cool, ventilated environment where you replace the ethane with something inert they can last over the winter.

I tend to get 1-2 weeks of shelf life from fruit, though I tend to only buy the stuff that stores well. (apples, bananas, oranges etc.)

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I have learned more from your comment than anything else in my adult life.

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Jaxreply
sh.itjust.works

In my experience, without the drive of 'I need to eat better' really being cemented into your soul, this will just result in everyone covertly buying snacks and letting tons of fruit go to waste.

People do seem to like nuts though, barring a legitimate reason like an allergy; I don't think I've met anyone that dislikes nuts.

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That makes sense. They are full of fats, proteins, and other carbs. Lots of them are even dusted in salt or sugar

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slrpnk.net

One of my best friends doesn't like nuts. He's very sensitive to bitterness.

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See that just blows my mind, I would never describe nuts as bitter.

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Or they might develop cooking skills, which enables you to turn even the healthiest of ingredients into delicious junk.

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I bought a cantaloupe recently. It sat there for a week because I didn't want to cut it. Then when I cut it, it disappeared within hours.

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lemmy.world

Can't wait! I'd eat like 4-5k calories a day, and literally couldn't put on weight, although swimming competitively helped a bit I'm sure. Was just a bean pole.

Smoked an unhealthy amount of weed as a kid too, and my go-to high snack was a half gallon of milk and an Entemann's All Butter French Crunbcake. Believe it or not, I cannot eat like that anymore.

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I lifted weights (not competitively), had PE class and did folk dance and that was enough that I could also eat around 4-5k calories daily and not put on much weight besides a little muscle mass

Ah and I also cycled to school oftentimes

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although swimming competitively helped a bit I’m sure

Swimmers fallacy :)

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Stiffyreply
lemmy.world

Was it not illegal back then to smoke weed when you were a teen

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Krzdreply
lemmy.world

Ah yes, because the legality of it famously stopped so many people from smoking weed...

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Well, you could get put in jail! They would risk getting high for that? Bit stupid, honestly.

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Yes, it was. Nobody was going to jail over weed though. They handed it a year of probation if you got caught by the cops.

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What is awesome is that you will go through like six boxes of cereal in two weeks, but then when you buy six boxes for the next month they are still sitting there.

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Dammit this is so true. With us, it's chips. My teenage son poured himself almost an entire bag of Doritos into a bowl the other day. But them sometimes I notice our pantry is overflowing with bags of chips because everyone has magically decided they don't eat chips now.

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lemy.lol

We usually have four young people around the house ages 16-21 ((only three are ours). We're lower middle class and don't receive any food assistance. Our food bill straight up destroys our budget.

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lemy.lol

Yeah for me Costco is almost an hour away but Sam's Club is about 5 mins. So yeah that's where I do a lot of shopping. Thank goodness for bulk packs.

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Knightfoxreply
lemmy.world

I remember a reddit post from forever ago where the guy said that the grocery store had asked his mom to let them know when their son went to college because him leaving would impact the quantities of chocolate milk they stocked.

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Yeah that was me. Come home from school after eating a big school lunch, eat a quarter loaf of bread and 1L milk. Have a 2 hour nap, eat 2 servings for dinner, ask if anyone else wants more before scraping the leftovers in the pots and pans onto my plate.

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I saw this in a movie once. Ever since I thought it was super normal to do this and always got so sick.

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lemmy.today

I bought a family size bucket of chicken from the supermarket. 12 pieces. I watched my two kids race to see who can eat the most. I had a single piece.

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VitoRoblesreply
lemmy.today

They didn't even eat the whole thing. It was like half eaten and then they moved to the next piece. So like 5 half-eaten pieces of chicken each.

The oldest won for taking bigger pieces. They celebrated by then farting all over the place.

I'm tired boss.

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Sounds like a Tuesday night!

In all honesty, my son is the only one who lives with us now. Step-kids have moved out to college and beyond.

And you know what?

Sometimes I’d kill for someone to half-eat pieces of chicken and then fart all over the place.

Kids, man. They grow on you and then they grow up.

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My parents always had rice in the rice cooker and some kind of stew in the fridge. My favorite is the pig feet stews.

Cereal is overated

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“Mother won’t be back, son. We ate too much cereal and brought this upon ourselves.” - my husband, probably.

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Problem is a teenager that's physically active can absolutely demolish food supplies just keeping up with their calorie expenditure.

I ate 4-5k kcal daily without putting on weight as a teenager. If I did that now as a grown adult, they could make a show about me in a few years time and call it my 250kg life or something.

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lemmy.world

the solution to every human problem is "don't have kids"

no humans, no human problems

pull out of her.

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ickplantreply
lemmy.world

pull out of her.

Do you want kids? Because that’s how you get kids.

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lemmy.world

I knew a family that told their adult teenage son he could only have one bowl of cereal in the morning and that is what he did.

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MehBlahreply
lemmy.world

Just get a mixing bowl and put the whole box it and a half a gallon of milk in it and eat it like Otto did. Guy was 6'2" and two fifty at the time.

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ickplantreply
lemmy.world

Oh. So like what he does already. Got it. 🤦‍♀️

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No. He was eating a whole box of cereal using a small bowl. He was told he could only have one bowl so he switch to a large bowl. How is this hard to comprehend?

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When I was running a lot I would eat 1/2 a box or more of grape nuts, add 1/3 of that volume in honey, and add milk.

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My nephew moved in with us years back so at the time i had a partner in his 20's and a nephew in his late teens so I just groaned and doubled the grocery budget.

testosterone makes 'em a food hoover until they hit about 25, deal with it

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And it's dry... I was just looking at her in disbelief the whole time. Then we have lunch and she gobbled 1kg of fruit afterwards... Bitch's not even fat yo where she's storing all that shit?

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lemmy.ca

Excuse me, half and half!? People used to give me trouble for homogenized milk.

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BoxOfFeetreply
lemmy.world

I used to be dreadfully underweight before my Crohn's was under control. I tried to squeeze in calories wherever I could. Most of the time, I had meal replacement shakes with my meals. Then, I found meds that worked for me and my eating habits backfired. Every now and then, I may slip back to my old ways by following out a loaf of bread and filling it with a container of Nutella and eating the entire thing in one sitting. Hence why I am now 246lbs.

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That sounds like it was a lot to deal with I'm really sorry I had to go through that.

I definitely have some of the same issues food used to be pretty scarce because I grew up fairly poor and now that I'm doing well for myself it is sometimes difficult to remind myself that I don't need to eat like this is my last meal.

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