Spyke
JLock17reply
lemmy.world

"We need police reform in america!"

Unironically, Democrats:

(This is clothing specific to Ghana (We didn't get police reform.))

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'All mouth and no trousers' is the phrase I picked up from a Scottish lass for such people.

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lemmy.world

Dems are beholden to billionaires. They just don’t want to be as obvious as Republicans.

It’s not liberals versus conservatives.

It’s the rich versus the rest.

There’s a lot more of us than there are of them.

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feddit.online

DNC platform is tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs. They have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years, currently 45. The last time they had 58 for less than two months they caucused with 2 independents to pass Medicaid. They would have launched a Public Option identical to Germany's healthcare if not for one of those independents opposing it.

DNC is liberal, DNC is on our side, Vote DNC. Or, if an independent polls higher, then vote for them because at least they're not a Republican and removing every single Republican should be our goal.

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Eldritchreply
piefed.world

Many democrats are on our side. Historically, traditionally the DNC AKA leadership absolutely isn't. There have been some changes in recent history. And that's good. But till there's enough history to plot out a new pattern of behavior. We'd be fools to treat them as if they changed.

The biggest problem with the Democratic party for decades has been that they're serving two masters. Lip-service to the voters to try and get their neoliberal candidates in office. But legislating largely for the major donors that took over funding the party once Reagan broke the unions. The DNC talks the talk. But atm are unable to walk the walk. I hope that changes soon. With each death and retirement, things look a little better for them.

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lemmy.world

Many democrats are on our side.

Yeah, like three of them.

And the rest are fighting harder to stop Democrats who actually are on our side than they are against fascists: people like Mamdani and Platner.

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Eldritchreply
piefed.world

Yep, but thankfully it looks like Mamdani and Platner might be changing the equation. Fingers crossed.

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Absolutely possible, though, less likely. He at least seems to show some introspection and ability to learn. But you're not wrong to be wary of him considering his past stances.

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Fetterman was always shit. Long before he was elected. Still better than memeht oz. But yes, AOC has significantly pushed back against neoliberal leadership. Not perfect by any means. But some small hope for future improvement as more like her get elected.

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Eldritchreply
piefed.world

Everyone does. AOC and Mamdani literally are marching with us. It's largely leadership that keeps anything from getting done or changing. Blame them.

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Eldritchreply
piefed.world

AOC and Mamdani are leadership? Did anyone tell them or the DNC that?

The closest we're getting to a shell game here is painting with a broad brush and lumping them all into one shell. You're never going to get the old guard out if you continue to make enemies of the ones actually working to do it.

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feddit.online

The current batch believes in ending PACs, taxing the rich, and expanding healthcare. Most importantly, perhaps, is they replace Republicans who would actively harm us all. Why don't you want those things?

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feddit.online

They had 58 senate seats 16 years ago for 2 months. They had 53 seats over 13 years ago. They had 48 or less every year since.

And yet they do pass such legislations literally all the time. You just ignored it.

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I'm all for newer more progressive dems, but the way you insult and drag through the mud all the current dems is ridiculous and harmful to us all.

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lemmy.world

The DNC has had multiple opportunities to tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs during my lifetime and they have not done so once. I don’t believe them anymore when they say it’s their platform.

Being anti-Republican isn’t enough anymore. This shit will keep happening for as long as we allow private ownership of the means of production.

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The quiet part is there wasn’t a plan to tax the rich for another decade or two when they thought shit would actually hit the fan. Shit hit the fan much sooner than they hoped, as this was an issue they were going to leave the next generation to handle. It’s more an issue of the baby boomers having had control of the DNC for decades.

Business was booming during the Obama years; why did it matter to the rich people in Congress if the rest of us had to hustle more? That’s the real reason they didn’t tax the rich when they could have, well that and they were getting tons of funding from the big businesses.

The pro-corporate Dem plans went up in flames quite a lot when Hillary was not elected. Now that shit got worse much sooner than they hoped, they’re in a rock and a hard place because they still don’t want to tax their rich buddies but the voters are actually pushing to vote them out if they keep doing nothing.

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feddit.online

They have actually. They do those things literally every time they enter power. Maybe try searching if a statement is true before you post it.

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Lasherzreply
lemmy.world

The last legislation I can remember is the pro act, which failed. There have been progressive executive orders, progressive agency moves in the executive, progressive judges appointed, but all of this was destroyed by sleeper agent dinos. I'm also not remotely naive enough to believe that Manchin, Sinema, and Fetterman are the only ones. Legacy fossils like Dick Durbin was literally the leader and he betrayed us recently upon retirement. They're largely career-minded capitalists through and through with few exceptions, the rotating villain shtick is fucking old. We're dying, it's not enough.

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feddit.online

Biden Administration:

  • expanded overtime pay eligibility to millions

  • forgave $186 Billion of student loans despite constant pushback from Republican AGs and courts

  • increased audits for the rich, which payed for itself and more

  • allowed over-the-counter birth control to hit the markets

  • pardoned thousands of marijuana convictions, commuting 2500+ sentences

  • awarded $286 million for schools student mental health programs

  • replaced more federal vehicle fleets with all electric

  • expanded solar and wind power across the nation

  • drafted new anti-redlining predatory mortgage regulations which went into effect in January

  • a crackdown on hidden fees from service providers, ticket sellers, and banks

  • forced Chinese companies to properly report SEC Filings in order to remain publicly tradeable

  • expanded less carbon intensive farming practices in the USA

  • expanded nature conservation and national parks more than any past president, including $4 Billion for the preservation of the shrinking Colorado River

  • cut federal funding for career training programs which trap their students in more debt relative to their post-graduation earnings

  • brokered a peace deal in the Congo

  • strengthened alliance with Japan and South Korea over countering potential threats from China and North Korea

  • funded medical research for things like cancer, countering the previous cuts by Republicans

  • helped Class-A railroad workers to have industry-wide paid sick leave, albeit after he undercut their strike he still aided them in getting all of their demands in the following months

  • literally penned the first and then only AI oversight and regulation with his AI Executive Order

  • investigated grocery store price gouging and blocked mergers such as Krogers-Albertsons

  • The Respect for Marriage Act which protects gay marriage

  • protected LGBT+ Service Members and Veterans

  • signed multiple executive orders protecting lgbt+ throughout the federal government including "prevent and combat discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation" and "advance equality for LGBTQI+ individuals"

  • appointed the first openly LGBTQI+ Cabinet Secretary, White House Press Secretary, and White House Communications Director, the two first openly transgender people to ever be confirmed by the U.S. Senate, and the first out lesbian to achieve the rank of Ambassador.

this list goes on, and Biden wasn't even particularly powerful given his only senate majority was 47 DNC and 3 Independents with VP tiebreaker, and only for 2 years.

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Lasherzreply
lemmy.world

Brother, I literally said there have been progressive executive orders and progressive agency moves in the second sentence and virtually all this is executive shit. The only thing I see from congress is the respect for marriage act, which was put in place as a wall to prevent backflow of civil rights that the Supreme court granted in Obergefell v Hodges. You may as well give credit to Neil Gorsuch in your effort to thank Democrats in Congress for writing the opinion that gave them the courage to act on something they should have done during the Clinton era.

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You can't complain that a party with between 45 and 48 senators isn't passing enough legislation. They literally don't have the votes to pass legislation unless all of the stars align and Republicans forget to filibuster. By your logic you're giving Republicans credit for not blocking that particular piece.

Some of what I mentioned was a part of the massive Inflation Reduction Act which did a lot more than reduce inflation.

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lemmy.world

DNC platform is tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs.

And their campaign promises have so much value, clearly.

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they have absolutely no chance intention of pulling any of it off

I corrected this slightly, but you're right. They know that none of it is actually going to get done, and they have the excuses already lined up: not enough votes, obstruction, filibuster, parliamentarian, etc. etc. etc.

It's the same reason some billionaires insist that they support higher taxation on themselves, because they know it is never going to happen.

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feddit.online

Maybe if we had more than 48 we could find out. Let's call their bluff.

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isaaclwreply
lemmy.world

I agree.

And also, itd be great if senators like Bernie, Warren and others, actually called out their "peers" who are obviously blocking progress.

I think my two Senators: Kaine, and Warner are playing a shell game where they go as corporate as they can and still give the appearance of resistance.

And yet I ha e to vote for them until there is a viable alternative. Its just so frustrating the lack of transparency.

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feddit.online

Honestly, I think voting for them isn't even enough. We have to promote them. We have to outwardly support them and not talk shit about them online or in public, or else they will lose to a Republican and we'll be all that much worse off.

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isaaclwreply
lemmy.world

I mean, depends on your definition of "talking shit" is. If you would describe what I said as "talking sbit" I think that makes the party way too inwardly focused, and almost "cult of personality" like we see from the republicans.

The good thing about the democratic party is the wide tent and diversity of strategies. We need to be more transparent and proove ourselves since we dont (alway) have millionaire and billionaire funding.

I would not slander Democrats and still encourage voting, but to take a different stance, I cant exactly enourage Palestinians to vote for a candidate that actively promoted the genocide of their people. So its tricky, and open primaries and diqlog really clarify all that.

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The DNC and any Democrat is better than any Republican, and their voting histories are full undeniable evidence of that.

You want a better world? Vote DNC.

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lemmy.world

It was suspicious how many accounts claiming to be left-leaning all of a sudden in like, July 2024 decided to suddenly buy the lies the GOP had been selling for years that Biden was old and senile just because he has a stutter.

The DNC does need to have better primaries though. Which means people PARTICIPATING in them. But also not allowing people like Bloomberg to buy their way in. To actually HOLD primaries like they didn't for Biden's incumbent campaign.

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Biden won the primary just like every incumbent in us history, and then he stepped down and his Vice President took over.

And when Biden won the previous primary in 2020, he actually more than doubled the runner up Bernie Sanders.

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lemmy.world

Nonsense.

Donald has the same amount of power that Clinton, Obama, and Biden had.

The problem isn't a lack of power. It's their predilection to enrich themselves at the expense of their constituents. The only difference is Donald isn't offering shitty excuses like Dems do.

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feddit.online

Biden had the least amount of power because as I mentioned the DNC have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years.

To be clear, Trump's power comes solely from inaction in the Senate.

But, on that note, Biden accomplished a lot of great things including taxing the rich.

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lemmy.world

Biden accomplished a lot of great things

Totally. Genocide Joe achieved an economy that has my 80 year-old parents driving for DoorDash in a car they borrow from me, so his economy won't render them homeless.

Awesome guy, that Joe.

Love it.

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Man, you must have been a Maga until the Epstein files came out if you really believe all that. I normally try to bring reason and facts to every argument but I think this might be a tried and true "turtles all the way down" moment.

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lemmy.world

Every time the Dems have had a majority in my lifetime, they have failed to even discuss progressive legislation, let alone try to enact it.

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lemmy.world

The Dems had control for a few months in 2011, and that was when they passed the ACA. That was the only point in my lifetime they controlled the government.

The last time before that was 1961-1969. Which included such legislation as the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act, though in sure you can find plenty more that was passed.

Not to mention that the Dems have absolutely been discussing progressive legislation. It's failed to pass, passed and then been vetoed, or even at times been passed and then struck down by conservative courts.

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In 2003 they banned campaign funding from PACs instead allowing only a maximum from individuals, but in 2007-2010 the SCOTUS shut it down then declared it unconstitutional.

The Inflation Reduction Act also contained a ton of good stuff not even related to Inflation.

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lemmy.world

The ACA is the brainchild of the Heritage Foundation. It is not progressive legislation.

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I'm sorry that you think tens of millions of americans don't deserve any medical care, but keep in mind they had to pass the watered down version due to Independent Joe Leiberman being the 60th vote needed to bypass the Republican Fillibuster.

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DaMummyreply
hilariouschaos.com

No, I'm pretty sure Democrats are for more funding for ICE. Don't project your ideals into these ghouls.

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DNC have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years and now the ICE has more funding than most militaries. If you want change, vote out the Republicans, which almost always means vote DNC.

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kadureply
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DNC is liberal. DNC is on our side. Vote DNC.

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I've been a regular for quite awhile but I did recently move to piefed.

Feel free to make some kind of argument when you're ready.

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slrpnk.net

Also, bodycams were always a cop wishlist item. They control the footage, does anyone think if ICE had bodycams there would be transparency? Of course not, there would be a ton of “malfunctioning” bodycams when they did some shit, and in any case where a civilian showed even a hint of resistance or that they might fight back, the footage would be used to bury them.

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bufalo1973reply
piefed.social

If the bodycams came with a law that said  that in case of malfunction of the bodycam the one to be trust is the civilian all those "malfunctioning" bodycams wouldn't have any problem working right.

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Yea it should be the body camera footage vs the civilian testimony. The cops shouldn't even get to tell " their side". Camera wasn't working? Guess the civilian testimony is 100% true.

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For some reason police body cams malfunction a lot when they are shooting clearly innocent people and on ocassion corrupted footage becomes visible after the trial has acquitted the cop...

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infosec.pub

News about the USA makes me so incredibly sad and anxious currently.

I hope the world won't go to shit and people will eventually see reason again.

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mirshafiereply
europe.pub

I think the sooner we stop hoping and start fighting, will improve our chances to see a world based on freedom and reason within our lifetimes.

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Maybe if we just bury our heads in the sand, say Dems are for taxing the rich, funding social programs, and raising the minimum wage, we will get there one day.

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Semi trucks have camera systems that send recorded events to a third party to be monitored and stored in case needed. The only reason this is not done is because police want the ability to cover up their crimes.

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lemmy.ca

The most telling part of the vid is where he switches the camera from his right hand to his left, so he can pull his gun out with his right hand.

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Rekorsereply
sh.itjust.works

If thats the moment he started fearing for his life then he should never have been employed in law enforcement.

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Gives the same vibes as believing being anonymous online encourages hate, when the same people wouldn't change their behavior when they are not anonymous.

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As long as the gas chambers are up to code, who am I to judge? - Lib circa 1944

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there is no lesser evil, just the same evil dressed in different clothes

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Maybe someone bought Axon stock recently and is looking to boost its value?

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Crazy how in China's 'one party system' there's more discussions and disagreements than in the USA's 'two party system'.

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They only released this video because they somehow thought it exonerated the killer. They don't release the videos of them abusing victims at their concentration camps, or breaking into peoples homes. They should always be on camera.

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ghenreply
sh.itjust.works

Democrats have moved so far right that they can become the new conservative party. MAGA needs to be put in jail and then we can build a left party

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lemmy.world

They're controlled opposition funded by the same people, if you're expecting them to save you then you're out of luck.

If you're American your best option is to get out and organise resistance, or to collectively fund a new political party with a backbone not in the pockets of billionaires.

Either way you need to get out there, sorry lads.

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Have you not seen how many people there were at Bernie rallies? People did get out. Bernie would speak to crowds of 20k people, while Clinton spoke to like 50 people, and I was still wondering how she got 50 people to support her.

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lemmy.world

Which Dems are saying this? In any case I'm not sure how a centrist saying a thing like that is surprising

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Had to scroll way too far down to find someone asking this question.

I wouldn't be shocked if there was a Democrat politician saying something like this, but let's name and shame. There's also a lot of Democrats calling for ICE to be defunded. Plenty of right-wing rags are dragging on AOC and Ilhan Omar for "promoting lawlessness" by calling for ICE to be defunded and reformed. Here's an article describing what the Dems are doing to try to do to stop further funding to the DHS. Articles of impeachment have already been introduced against Kristi Noem.

The real problem was that in 2024, 1/3rd of the country voted FOR this shit and is loving it, and another 1/3rd of the country stayed home either because they didn't care or just didn't think Harris was a good enough candidate to be worth voting against fascism. So here we are.

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feddit.online

I saw bystanders filming the shooting, was there another angle I haven't seen?

Regardless, I fail to see how forcing them to document their crimes could be a bad thing.

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ThePantserreply
sh.itjust.works

He recorded it all. You can see him with the phone in hand in all angles. They then released that video and he still looks guilty.

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TrickDacyreply
lemmy.world

There's a brief second or so that the phone is pointed down, at a crucial time. Body cam footage would've proven conclusively if he was hit by the car or not.

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Wait, really, that's that fuckers name?

Til.
It's not funny but now indeed image search gives these two dudes side by side.

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slrpnk.net

I mean it would be an improvement if they had body cameras. But don't give them a cent for anything else.

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lemmy.world

.......you read the same paragraph we just did, right? Did you miss the part where he DOES have a body camera? He filmed it. He's not holding a cell phone. He's holding a gun. Which he used to shoot Rene Good in the face.

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He did not have a body camera. He's got discretion on what he wants to film. Many ICE attacks are not filmed. There has been several other shootings that were not filmed and as a result there has been little backlash against because the ICE lies cannot be debunked.

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if you watch the new angle released in the past few days you can see he's using his own personal phone. he actually swaps hands, pulls out his gun and leans into the car so it looks like he's next to it on his camera.

body cam would make it clearer but if they can't afford cameras with the funds already, which is enough to fund a small military let alone 4k agents, I'm pretty sure they are just going to spend it on mustard gas next.

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This is incorrect as others pointed out. A phone is not a body cam.

They released the phone cam, which they used to try to justify his actions with. A body cam wouldn't have because it would've showed he was fucking hit and it would've shown him shooting Renee in the face to the world.

The reason they don't use body cams is because the unspoken word is, "show what you want people to see; throw the phone down when you don't want them to see it."

The entire point of a body cam is to always film.

(not a centrist Dem, btw)

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TrickDacyreply
lemmy.world

There's a couple seconds we couldn't see, specifically because it was a cell phone and not a body cam. Not that the fascists would ever admit to wrongdoing, but it probably would be convincing even more people that it was a murder if we had body cam footage also.

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Oppopityreply
lemmy.ml

It's not going to do anything. They'll just turn them off or say they were malfunctioning. Or just get away with it even with video like we're seeing here. Recording the fascism isn't going to stop the fascism. They'll just "oh no, anyway..."

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I am not saying any right winger would ever be honest, I'm just saying in theory a body cam would have given us better evidence than his cell phone.

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

But don’t give them a cent for anything else.

They already have more money than any single branch of the US military (I think? Forget exactly), they can afford bodycams.

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Can they order them to use them without appropriating new funding for it? I'm not sure how that would work.

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