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Disney deleted a Thread because people kept putting anti-fascist quotes from its movies in the replies

”Share a Disney quote that sums up how you’re feeling right now!”

That’s what Disney posted on Threads the other day, and people immediately replied with lines from Star Wars, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, and even Mary Poppins. The throughline between all the quotes: they were pretty pointedly anti-fascist and clearly aimed at the current administration

Disney deleted a Thread because people kept putting anti-fascist quotes from its movies in the replieshttps://www.theverge.com/news/863980/disney-deleted-anti-fascist-threadOpen linkView original on discuss.online
lemmy.world

LoL.

Conservatives support the god damned storm troopers too.

Edit: ICE even aims like them too.

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lemmy.world

Disney are also really shitty at removing any context in their movies. An interesting scene at the beginning of the movie Encanto a flashback references an unknown conflict in Colombia resulting in the death of the grandmother’s husband. What conflict Disney? Who were the bad guys Disney? Further research by an interested viewer will reveal that it was a civil war involving a right wing of rebels backed by the US, rose up against a leftist government.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Encanto isn’t about the conflict, though.

It would seriously break the flow of the story if they took time to explain the geopolitics of the area.

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ladreply
programming.dev

The original comment reads more like: they could've used an abstract conflict without specifics allowing to identify it

I would add: maybe that was intentional, also maybe they thought that the US were on the side of good in that case

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right wing propaganda in shows and movies has always been seen favorably and useful for the govt, thats why they allow military to protrayed a certain way.

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Phoenixzreply
lemmy.ca

Fair enough

I'd love to see the cheeto do a trial by combat, that would be outright funny

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Arcane2077reply
sh.itjust.works

There is a world, not this one, but somewhere, where the President of the United States is challenged to a trial by combat by the King of Denmark over ownership of Greenland

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The king of Denmark is a former frogman (i.e. Danish Navy Seal). I would love to see that fight.

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You'll get your wish starting late Jan 2027

When Vance becomes eligible for 2 year plus 2 full terms

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Look if there was a way I could sovcit my way to a golden fringe slap fight I'd take it all the way to the top of the conspiracy (lose a slap fight against the president? That's a hell of a story). Something tells me it's more complicated.

I know this dude who lost a slap fight against a toad. He was lynched for treason and running round with other dudes wives and daughters. Imagine how far I could go if I lost a slap fight against a president.

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You're not wrong but a monarchy isn't strictly speaking the same as facism so I guess it's technically plausible

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cons had problems with the 13th and 15 doctor, because of the gender, and ncuti , also surrounding several episodes "Gender issues"

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lemmy.world

peter quill is a fictional character and i havent seen a guardians movie where he went fasch. is there a comic where that happened?

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Think they're referring to the actor Chris Pratt and comments he has made in the recent past.

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right, a character being portrayed by a dick. but that doesn't necessarily make the character themselves a dick.

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sh.itjust.works

Ironic for a company that recently made Andor.

You might have already heard its praise, but I wanted to add that it’s not just a political thriller, it’s about fascism. More specifically, it’s about the dilemma of doing nothing and pretending everything is fine or doing something even if it means using the tools of your enemy.

Senator Mothma’s speech at the end was creepily relevant, you just need to replace palpatine for another name.

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Aceticonreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

The rest is pretty cartoonish Bad Guys Bad, Good Guys Good.

Andor was way more nouanced.

Further Andor showed the machinery of Fascism from the inside and had various different kinds of people with different levels of commitement and reasons for participating in it.

You could really feel the machinery of Fascism slowly closing its maw on people who were just pro-Obbey-The-Rules rather than pro-Fascism and either coopted them or crushed them. Meanwhile in the rest of Star Wars the Empire was pretty much just is Big Powerful Evil For The Sake Of Evil Guys + Mindless obedient human puppets.

For the Empire side Andor showed people under Fascism, the rest Star Wars just shows the symbology of Fascism (down to the detail that all the members of the Empire are human, never other species) but not the human side of it or the machinery influencing and even forcing them to behave as they do.

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lemmy.world

Meanwhile in the rest of Star Wars the Empire was pretty much just is Big Powerful Evil For The Sake Of Evil Guys + Mindless obedient human puppets.

If you think Star Wars does it bad - which I'm not entirely disagreeing with you on - dear god never watch Rebel Moon

Single worst piece of scifi I've ever seen in my life, and I've seen so much scifi. I watched all of Dark Matter for some reason, and Rebel Moon is so much worse. Why did they give the Big Evil Fascist a Fascist Shillelagh? I don't fuckin know man it's the worst movie ever.

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saimenreply
feddit.org

Andor is much more about anti-fascism than other Star Wars pieces. But in a more adult and realistic way. That one has to get their hands dirty and give up some ideals.

On the other hand it shows good people meaning good things are still doing bad things simply because they are part of a fascist regime of which they might not even be aware of (because fascism is about manipulation and propaganda).

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lemmy.ca

Yeah I'm not into that kind of thing. Rogue One was weird enough trying to be Saving Private Ryan while having the toys I played with as a kid on the screen. And I find it kinda find it boring when shows spell out what they're about instead of having a deep subtext so I tend just get annoyed by plot holes since there's nothing else to think about.

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Andor isn't nearly that straightforward about it. It's complicated and messy, with self-interested people juxtaposed against the idealists. Most of it is character-centered, soul-sucking spycraft tension like The Lives of Others or Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, but then also exasperating bureaucracy as in Chernobyl--and Stellan Skarsgard is equally phenomenal in Andor. Your toys aren't here either; no lightsabers, few scenes with the old droids, very little time in space. Most of the time you need the architecture and the stormtroopers and Imperial dress whites to recognize it as a Star Wars setting.

It's completely different than any Star Wars screen production before it.

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To add to what Aceticon said, Andor also shows the random evil of fascism, where people who just want to live their life and have no motivation to rebel are easily sucked into the insanity and given no chance to live their lives under the radar.

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discuss.online

Watching Succession (which is based on the lives of media families like the Murdochs, the Redstones, the Maxwells, and the Sulzbergers) made me realize how little they care about the message their entertainment wing gives.

They will play both sides if it pays off. They don't care.

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I agree. That show was a very good insight into rich people and their mentality.

Even though it was hard to watch at times, it was worth the watch cause of the insight.

They truly live in their own bubble that ensures only like minded people stay there

::: spoiler Tap for spoiler In fact the whole point of the show was how ruthless Logan was and that his children were stuck between a rock and a hard place. They could never leave that life cause they are so used to the luxury, although Connor gave a decent try.

They could also never be as ruthless since they had a decent amount of humanity left.

So even with all their money and luxury, they ended up feeling very unfulfilled and like a failure. :::

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mad_djinnreply
lemmy.world

Andor was a pacification tool meant to supplicate the weak liberals who refuse to actually, I don't know, DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE CURRENT REAL LIFE SITUATION. You too can resist, by watching Andor from your couch! Thinking is just as good as doing!

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I saw Andor as a blaring, screaming, raging wakeup-call for anyone who thinks that sitting and thinking about doing something is the same as doing something.

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Ok now apply the same kind of criticism to the anti-liberal memes you're consuming on the internet. Who do those benefit? Who benefits from dividing people?

Where does this stuff originate from? Some millionaire trust fund baby influencers on youtube or twitch? Why is this Hasan guy on the front page of a website owned by Jeff Bezos?

Keep on repeating the bullshit that Jeff Bezos wants you to about liberals being the real enemy. You're soooo much smarter than everyone else LOL. You're really "fighting the power" when you consume the content the billionaires want you to consume.

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lemmy.ca

Is anyone surprised that a corporation doesn’t t share the same values as the creatives it hires?

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Maybe people who have never worked before might be surprised.

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pHr34kYreply
lemmy.world

Really? I know they dropped S03E01 because they didn't like Michael Jackson. The last time I checked, Disney+ still had a scene where Dr. Hibbert explained the "evil gene" that's shared by both Walt Disney and Hitler.

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they probably have problems with family guy now, since most parodies of seth mcfarlane is criticizing disney.

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lemmy.today

also waffling around with giving ORVILLE another season, since the show contradicts the GOP in everyway, and it gets conservative panties in a wad.

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oppy1984reply
lemdro.id

and it gets conservative panties in a wad.

No need to single out Lindsey Graham, I'm sure it upsets all the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" snowflakes.

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lemmy.ml

I watched the Orville and thought it was awesome, I was about to recommend it to my parents then I remembered ... That it totally goes against supply side Jesus.

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i think pallacki had issues with the series being so inconsistent thats why she left the show, the seasons were too far and few between.

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fedia.io

Somebody, somewhere, is updating their list of all the old pre-fascism movies and TV shows that will need to be erased from the culture.

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So their whole pre-2025 catalogue? Haha oh my.

Only in America is Hydra the good guys.

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Learn from the wisdom contained within our magical tales, child...

NO NOT LIKE THAT!!

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sh.itjust.works

He sits alone on a giant throne

Pretendin' he's the king

A little tyke who's rather like

A puppet on a string

And he throws an angry tantrum

If he cannot have his way

And then he calls for Mum

While he's suckin' his thumb

You see, he doesn't want to play

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Every country

has its ups and downs

Sometimes ups

Outnumber the downs

But not in America

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I was in Spain last year, and I think it was Seville that a literal Storm Trooper army marched past me on the street. It was a parade, but I've been wondering if it was an anti fascism thing.

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lemmy.wtf

But don’t worry, someone recorded it for posterity.

Link?

(Was it in the article? I failed to find...)

[With the help of an LLM] Here's a few worthy quotes:

[Edit: Thanks Susaga for pointing out the LLM lied. Hah. LLMs. Can't trust 'em. Good lines, pity they're not true quotes.]

"To be my own master. Such a thing would be greater than all the magic and all the treasures in all the world." — Genie, Aladdin (1992)

"You think you’re so clever, but you’re just a cowardly, backstabbing, murderous lizard!" — Simba, The Lion King (1994)

"A true hero isn’t measured by the size of his strength, but by the strength of his heart." — Zeus, Hercules (1997)

"I won’t be a pawn in someone else’s game!" — Pinocchio, Pinocchio (1940)

"You’re braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think." — Christopher Robin, Winnie the Pooh (1966–1977)

"I’d rather die tomorrow than live a hundred years without knowing freedom." — John Smith, Pocahontas (1995)

"You can’t own a human being!" — Dr. David Q. Dawson, The Aristocats (1970)

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Susagareply
sh.itjust.works

The LLM lied. Those aren't quotes from Lion King, Pinocchio, Pocahontas, Aristocats, or Winnie the Pooh. (Christopher Robin did say that, but not in that specific movie. And it's not particularly antifa either)

Also, Dr Dawson isn't from the Aristocats. He's from Great Mouse Detective, and didn't say the line there either.

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mmmexreply
lemmy.world

It is recorded as a video in the article (screen capture from scrolling Threads on a phone).

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jaybonereply
lemmy.zip

Can’t they just post screenshot, or just paste the text of the quotes? Like I really need to watch a video of this…

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BroBot9000reply
lemmy.world

Thank you for more excellent evidence that these racist piles of linear algebra are CONSTANTLY MAKING SHIT UP! Just don’t fucking use em. Pretty easy

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And it's worse than that.

Worse than just not needing them.

They induce atrophy of the cognitive capacities, and mislead and addict and poison and and and...

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Amusing that that got a big boost of upvotes initially, and since being corrected, the downvotes have boosted past the upvotes.

... Too many preferring the lies, and disliking the correction? XD

How dare that be corrected! XD

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