Norway Stunned After Machado Gifts Nobel Peace Prize Medal to Trump
“That’s completely unheard of,” Janne Haaland Matlary, a professor with the University of Oslo and a former politician, told public broadcaster NRK. “It’s a total lack of respect for the award, on her part,” she said, calling the act “meaningless” and “pathetic.”
LOL @ the both of them.
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Him pushing for and then accepting someone else’s peace prize award says everything anyone needs to know about him: he’s the biggest asshole in the world and has no shame.
Don't forget the middle part where he used the US military to kill a bunch of people and kidnap her main political foe.
I believe that if I were a past recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize I would be returning it. Not the money though, because fuck 'em, I'll keep the money.
I think I'd sell it. Hold a big public auction for it. It makes it even more of a statement, and even more money!
Yeahbut . . . See, we already knew that. Like, almost a decade ago that was crystal clear.
For sure, as a New Yorker, I’ve known longer than that, but it still amazes me that there are people who don’t know yet.
I hold he's afraid of dying because he's so close to death's door that he's doing the prosperity gospel's thing of trying to look good for god. He's siphoning all the money he can, getting awards and structures built for him thinking it's his way into heaven. Because a man like that would see holy salvation as transactional.
Mostly because he sees everything as transactional.
When you're a drag to be around, nobody hangs out with you unless they want something from you. And that just reinforces the worldview that everything is transactional.
Wow. I'm gonna start using the phrase «on a scale from zero to Maria Corina Machado regifting her Nobel prize, how desperate and useless are you right now?»
Why did they give it to a known trump collaborator lmaooo
Because there were (and still are) real problems in Venezuela. She is a key figure in the opposition, and it's widely suspected that the opposition party won the last election, but Maduro's party fucked with the vote.
In a sane world that respects Democracy, it sends a statement that the popular will should be respected, and that the Maduro government was illegitimate. I don't think the Nobel committee expected their award to precipitate armed intervention, which is the opposite of peace.
It's even more ironic because it's not like the will of the Venezuelan people is being honored, even now. Trump is ignoring Machado's party (even after "accepting" that gift of the medal) and is extorting what is left of the government in Venezuela to funnel oil money into a secret bank account.
Basically, the award makes sense in a pre-Trump world, but he has changed all the rules. That last cheeseburger can't come fast enough....
Then they're idiots and the prize itself is worthless. That was clear as day going to be the promoted result. If they just wanted to promote democracy they could have easily chosen an activist in a country not in the process of being attacked or an activist that wasn't currently encouraging war.
I don't give them the benefit of assumed stupidity. I think they were neoliberals who were particularly concerned by the nationalized industries in Venezuela and who thought even if they found him abhorrent Trump could be a good tool to help set the imperialist-capitalist world back arright.
It's been that way at least since they gave it to known war-monger Henry Kissinger...
I don't think we disagree on that point....
Kissinger on line two, chief.
Exactly. The peace prize means nothing. Hasn’t since Kissinger got it. 🤡
To appease Trump without awarding him the prize.
The same reason they gave it to Obama right before he started bombing civilians in the middle east with drones. It's a political maneuver that backfired.
The award lost any respectability it might have had the second it was given to Henry Kissinger.
And her as well. She's just Venezuelan trump.
Una vendepatrias
The problem that far too many people always miss is that appeasing a bully or a predator only ever encourages more of that behaviour. It never discourages that behaviour.
I don't think she's smart enough to read what you said let alone understand it
But it might prevent the bully from punching you that time. And everyone are cowards who won't gang up to fight the bully
Giving up the Nobel prize / lunch money might not stop them from asking for more next week, but prevent from punching you today.
Seems like she's working with what she's got, which is way less than the might of the US.
sadly he's already discarding her.
Hahaha what a loser
It's not transferable. She gave him the gold trinket because that's how you play Trump, but Trump doesn't get the actual peace prize assigned to him. People in here talking as if Trump actually got it.
He'll just go around telling everyone that's the Nobel Prize he won for 'liberating' ven.
It also isn't effective, Trump doesn't actually respect people who grovel toward him, especially if they aren't useful to him.
I would put this as sucking up.
Yeah sure either way he isn't into it.
Are you blind? He needs constant praise and rewards those that do it and punishes those that don't.
He wants it from people who are useful to him. I'm not blind.
Look at how he treated Zelensky and Machado. They come in and suck up, but he doesn't see them as useful.
Other leaders who openly dislike him (and he dislikes back, on a political level), such as Mamdani, Sheinbaum, and even Kim Jong Un, more easily get on his good side without sucking up (they sometimes throw a little praise his way, as you've observed).
When you take it too far it falls flat
He wants it from everyone. Zelensky have you even said thank you once (yes I know it was Vance but Vance is just propping him up). I'm not gonna bother with this if you're this blind. Ciao.
Why are you calling me blind? Why are you so closed minded about soemthibgbso inconsequential like "the precise amount of praise wants from each party"?
This rude behavior is ripped straight from The Everything App^TM
Well, it's Lemmy, so you can figure out the rest.
I mean, that's kinda what you get for giving it to a loser in the first place.
She's right wing trash, too, isn't she? Why are they surprised?
Who wants to bet Machado offered Trump the Nobel Prize in exchange for kidnapping Maduro?
Oh yeah she orchestrated the whole thing, not the US gov't
smh
Give the prize to a shit person, expect shit behaviour.
Also, Trump is a fucking spoiled toddler. He is an octogenarian Dudley Dursley.
Augustus Gloop, Veruca Salt, Mike Teevee, and Horace Slugworth combined and aged up 125 years
I feel like this is rather insulting to Dudley. He had growth through the course of the stories, became more empathetic and understanding. Trump hasn't grown emotionally since he was a toddler thus why he still behaves like one.
The award is meaningless and pathetic.
Anyone got an article that doesn't require agreeing to a fucking arbitration and class action waiver to read? jesus fucking christ bloomberg.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-machado-venezuela-maduro-nobel-peace-prize-ed23992bccabf128b7e849259d3c29a8
You're right, sorry for the oversight, I added one now. (I just used Firefox reader mode.)
He already got that sweet fifa piece prize, how much more proof of how peaceful he is does he need. I guess he's gonna liberate the Greenlandic peace prize next.
For how fucking worthless all this is now, at least the pageantry is telling.
Greenland should award him the artic peace price. I'm actually serious here.
ermm... Not unheard of. Knut Hamsun(Norwegian writer) gave his nobel price to Joseph Goebbels in '43?
It would be funny if the committee said that no one can have two Nobel peace prize medals so Trump can't be nominated again.
Marie curie, Linus Pauling,John Bardeen, Frederick Sanger.
I didn't know they got two peace prize medals each. Congrats to all of them!
Tbf, Linus Pauling ended up a big pseudoscience guy, who likely died of his own BS
Linus Pauling was 93 years old when he died of cancer. In the period leading up to his death he enjoyed mostly good physical health and retained cognitive function. Mega dosing vitamins is pissing away money, but certainly did not lead to his demise.
his wife also had the exact same cancer, and there's evidence that too much vitamin C impedes the biological mechanism to fight cancer.
yhea, at most it is only likely that his pseudoscience killed him.
It's funny that he thinks this will mean people see him as the winner, in the future, and not a petty little bitch. This will literally have the opposite effect of what he's looking for.
Did he at least give her a big golden chair she can sit in while she watches him fuck her country?
Too bad she didn't poison it
Then revoke it from her. It won't stop Trump from having his physical participation trophy. But it will put a big fat asterisk next to that year's every and send a message to future winners.
Better still, let the spite flow through them: revoke it and award that year to someone who Trump fucking hates.
They've already stated that the prize cannot be transferred or revoked.
Revoking send a stronger message.
There is no hint of Trump being a more peaceful person than Maduro btw..
The way I see it the Nobel Peace Prize committee can do one of two things to save the reputation of the award:
Or maybe give everyone an award at this point and make it meaningless
It became meaningless when they awarded it to Henry Kissinger. It’s been worthless ever since. The whole Nobel Prize is laughable. Don’t you know we live in opposite land?? Ultra rightwing lady abjectly begs the US to invade her own country …. and she gets awarded a peace prize?!?!
Holy crap I didn't even know this... And I thought it was meaningless when they gave it to Obama
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Nobel_Peace_Prize
Nah, they awarded the right person who's still doing the peace prizey thing for their country.
archive link pls kthx
The demented pedo-in-chief wants to trade it in when he is in purgatory.
CEO for president, Art of the Deal.
The Orange idiot got his participation medal.
I mean it’s a peace prizey thing to do. If it even had a chance of helping it makes sense.
She wants trump to completely take over Venezuela and install her as leader.
There are worse options available
And you know they're considering them first.
I don't understand. Does Norway not get news?
The Nobel prizes are silly to begin with. This just makes that more plain to see.
Hope the son of a bitch hangs himself with it
She turned it into the Simpbel Cuck Prize
She doesn't want it? Fine.
She has to give the money back.
The Nobel committee proved how political they all were when they instantly gave it to Obama after he got elected.
Even Obama was like, “Wait, wut?”
Ending neoconservative Bush administration is an instant qualification.
So McCain if he won?
Shrewd move by her, shows she’s prepared to use any lever she can to make things better for Venezuela, even gifting her medal in a nice frame to Trump. NB - everyone else does realise this isn’t the same as “giving him the prize” don’t they?
She’s literally collaborating with him so he will hand her the country so she can sell it to oil companies
wtf are you talking about
What’s to dislike about Machado? . She’s brave politician and activist with more legitimacy than just about any other potential leader of Venezuela, who is clearly prepared to do what it takes (suck up to Trump) to get the power to make things better for Venezuelans. Surely better the current dictatorship?
They live on planet Lemmy where doing whatever it takes to try to restore democracy & rebuild a nation is "collaboration" with the enemy & "selling to oil companies".
Glad it’s not just me. I kinda hoped that someone trying to make a positive change by doing what they can with what they’ve got would get more support - but no, just performative nonsense
Donald Trump is going to use this as a loyalty test, though. Just like calling it the "Gulf of America", or the "Department of War". He's going to start calling himself a "Nobel Prize Winner" and sic his brownshirts on anyone who disagrees.
I have a tshirt that says simply, THE GULF OF MEXICO, I wore it while I had to be in Texas and it pissed so many idiots off.
Fuming.
I wore that shirt well past its time to be washed.
Sure - if not this then something else. That’s a problem for the people of the United States to solve (no one else can). She’s doing the best she can with the tools she has to advance her vision for Venezuela, which seems better than anyone else’s..