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Bethesda announces a new Fallout... reality show

Fallout Shelter (working title) is a new reality competition series based on the hit Amazon drama and computer game of the same name. The dwellers (contestants) live together in a top-secret vault, where they will compete in a series of games that tests the seven core attributes from the Fallout world. Strength, perception, endurance, charisma, intelligence, agility and luck (S.P.E.C.I.A.L).

The series will not only test dwellers’ core attributes, but also their loyalty and alliances. It’s a game of power dynamics, popularity and social strategy which will ultimately result in a huge cash prize, but do you have what it takes to be the most S.P.E.C.I.A.L?.

I am sort of speechless, but for all the wrong reasons.

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lemmy.zip

A reality show vault? Not even Vault-Tec had any experiments that were that cruel.

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Or vault 81. One side had a full community to be tested on and observed, the other side had scientists watching the experiment.

It’s just a shame hardly any scientists showed up. They’d have had some great tv to watch after starting their molerat experiments.

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lemmy.world

Yeah... this seems pretty on brand really.

Actually, it seems really well themed, a messed up reality show is exactly the kind of thing you might find in a vault. The thing to remember though, is that Vault-Tec is supposed to be satirical... Bethesda should not become Vault-Tec because that would be unethical... Right Bethesda... Right?

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suppo.fi

Games getting turned into a massive franchises tend to put me off of the entire thing

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lemmy.world

fallout 1 sucks now because 30 years later they made a reality show

yeah i dont get it

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sh.itjust.works

I think it's more like "I can't enjoy fallout 1 anymore knowing what it eventually became".

I don't agree but I get it.

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mander.xyz

I don't even get it. Everything after fallout 1 has no bearing on fallout 1. It's exactly the same as it was when it was released. It's not hard to not think about things you don't like lol

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piefed.world

It’s like how I can’t stand to watch Kevin Spacey movies after we all found out about who he is.

Does it mean he’s no longer a talented actor? No. Does it make his movies suck? No. Does it taint everything he ever did and now seeing him reminds you of how shitty he is as a person?

a Resounding and emphatic- YES.

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mander.xyz

That would be a good comparison if Fallout as a franchise was a person who committed sexual assault I guess

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The crime doesn’t have to equate to ha e the same effect. Someone should have probably explained this to you by now.

When I said, “It’s like….” I didn’t mean “it’s identical to…” Understanding nuance goes a long way in these cases.

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if thats the case, everybody should have stopped liking fallout after the brotherhood of steel game came out. and yet they didnt.

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lemmy.zip

Good news everyone, we created the Torment Nexus reality TV show, from the game "Don't create the Torment Nexus"

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I'm half expecting Peter Thiel to say "maybe we should build a bunch of fallout shelters and then initiate a nuclear holocaust so we can outlast all our enemies, and also run some experiments while we're at it" in an interview tomorrow, wearing a vault suit and giving a thumbs up.

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"Amazon announces a cheap way to bank on an existing franchise"

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I'd be shocked and appalled by the tone-deafness if Mr. Beast hadn't already literally made a Squid Game style gameshow. Media literacy and irony are both well and truly dead.

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lemmy.ca

Just get people to agree to live in crowded vaults and have them sign a waver accepting any and all psychological torture performed on them. That's a functional Fallout reality show.

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lemmy.world

that's just real life at this point, with algo social media

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What if we made it Vault 68, 69, or 43. No psychological torture required for any of them. That or if you really want to fuck with someone we have Vault 77 or Vault 12, Vault 12 would be particularly vile since then you'd have to be in Bakersfield.

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aussie.zone

My fav season was 2028 when the dwellers failed the 'stealthboy raid' task and they released FEV into the vault

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lemmy.zip

What the hell? Premise they’re going with just makes it any other gameshow. Missed opportunity to have each “Vault” have some kind of unique experiment or twist.

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lemmy.world

This is like designing a Game of Thrones fighting game.

You can throw all the clever nods you want into the product. You can read the source material to high heaven and spend all the time in the world perfecting it. You can hire the best and brightest fighting game devs to come in and design the best game ever.

Fundamentally it will never work. Game of Thrones’ charm is in its politics, feeling of isolation, and world building. There’s no way to bring anything out of that in a fighting game. As soon as you put Renly against Joeffry in a match to the death anyone that’s a fan will just look at the product befuddled.

For this reality show you’re taking a franchise that’s known for its single player experience and tight top notch writing for both the games (at least 1 and 2) and tv show and stripping that away in favor of a format that encourages none of that. All it’s going to be is some weird challenge with loser kids going “OMG I WASNT EXPECTING THAT!!” and “What. The. Fuck. “ for 30 minutes. It’s not going to be good. And it’s gonna be a shit stain on the franchise.

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Yeah, it reads like they wanted to make that reality show and then just slapped a random franchise on it for PR reasons.

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lemmy.world

I think there’s a real angle there for something, in regards to the various vaults and what they are for. But I can’t see how that would convert to anything practically doable. But imagine squid game, basically, with each season being a different vault and a different experiment. Of course it can’t work as a reality show for obvious reasons, but I really do think it could be a hit show as a seasonal anthology series.

The tests and the vaults are a big part of the fallout lore after all, and part of it’s charm. I think there’s a lot there, even something that could work as a reality show were we not civilized and peaceful and instead allowed something like real life squid game concepts in reality shows.

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fedia.io

That's fucking stupid. Why? Who asked for this? Just make the damn games. Maybe I'm biased because I think this sort of thing is unentertaining trash, but I legitimately don't think that Fallout fans like this sort of thing.

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lemmy.zip

This isn't for Fallout fans. It's for people who watch Netflix/Prime and saw the Fallout show. Reality shows are pretty popular on these platforms (Beast Games is #2 on Prime right now) so that's who they're going after.

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fedia.io

I mean, the show is decent enough, it was the first Fallout related thing I ever consumed, got me to play the games. Still think that this is pretty unrelated to that though. Not sure it'll succeed.

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Sounds like Fallout-themed Squid Game.

Also, Bethesda is not going to make a new Fallout game while Fallout 76 keeps printing money. Same with Elder Scrolls Online. The amazing thing isn't just how far Bethesda has fallen, it's how many people keep propping them up.

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lemmy.world

Bethesda is not going to make a new Fallout game while Fallout 76 keeps printing money.

I've said this all along, they want subscriptions and mtx, they don't want to make video games. Starfield was the last one we will get and we only got that because it was Todd's stupid baby. ESO and F76 are where they want to be going forward. They will keep expanding them and accepting people's money and license TV shows now I guess.

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lemmy.world

I've played over 200 hours of Fallout 76 without spending a dime. It's got more content than Fallout 4 by now and you don't even have to care about multiplayer. Saying they don't want to make games is just stupid.

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lemmy.world

I'm not sure what your point is - is it that they made Fallout 76 so you could play it for free? Or that Fallout 76 is proof they're going to make Fallout 5? Or what.

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lemmy.world

There's zero chance there won't be a Fallout 5 but Elder Scrolls is their next major game, so it won't be soon. In the meantime there's a great free Fallout game for anyone who wants it despite it not being titled Fallout 5. It doesn't require a subscription or microtransactions and making it sound like some sort of mobile game only shows you don't know what it is.

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lemmy.world

There's zero chance there won't be a Fallout 5 but Elder Scrolls is their next major game, so it won't be soon.

If it came out tomorrow it wouldn't be "soon," Fallout 4 came out 11 years ago.

In the meantime there's a great free Fallout game for anyone who wants it despite it not being titled Fallout 5.

The game is currently listed for $39.99 on Steam. Reviews are "mixed" after 5 years of Bethesda adding content to the game, which originally released to overwhelmingly negative reviews, so not "great".

It doesn't require a subscription or microtransactions and making it sound like some sort of mobile game only shows you don't know what it is.

The game does not charge for a subscription, but you most certainly have to have one, because you have to login to the game. There would be no way for them to try and sell you shit through their microtransaction store every single time you login otherwise. Which they do. You are not obliged to buy them, but you are obliged to view ads for them.

Now then. Every single thing you just said is demonstrably wrong. What exactly makes you the authority on what Bethesda intends to do with Fallout?

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lemmy.world

Sometimes I forget people don't have Game Pass lol. I haven't bought anything from Steam in over 5 years.

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So it's not free, you have to give Bethesda/Microsoft money every month and when you stop doing so, you lose access to all the games. Game Pass Ultimate has tripled in price over 8 years and there's no reason to believe they won't keep raising it. Lower tiers haven't risen as much I guess, but have been nerfed instead (no more day 1 new games, yay)

If you have a TON of free time, game pass is a good deal for sure, but at this point with all the price hikes, a few months of game pass is one brand new AAA game or 2-3 excellent indie or AA titles and I'd wager it takes the average adult several months to finish one truly big game like BG3 or Elden Ring (just to name two excellent games with decent scope from recent years), as time is a scarce resource.

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Of course, gotta milk the success of the show for all it's worth. Amazon is gonna fumble the bag so hard if they try to keep cashing in like this.

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I had to check what community I'm in, still can't believe this is not the Onion.

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Agreed, but it is a great platform to mod the heck out of. I recommend Wasteland Reborn, if you're looking for a stable modlist.

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fedia.io

Besides the main story (an incredible important element), it was good. The location lore was interesting. The radiant quests were fucking stupid. Most of the side quests were decent. It's overhated imo. Nuka-Cola World was boring as shit besides the Hubbologists, I'm not gonna lie.

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The main quest was terrible. Should never center the plot on the player when there's custom creation and open world. It's forcing a backstory or behaviour onto the player even if they don't want it.

I played a big Michael Clarke Duncan brute rolling melee as Idiot Savant. The intro and main quest was entirely incompatible with character, full of things they wouldn't have done, would do, or should do.

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sh.itjust.works

I never finished it. I was having a blast until I saw that I needed to collect a bunch of shit to upgrade the town. I lost interest so fast.

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That's actually one of my favorite parts, it's like a feed into itself incentive for my already packrat tendencies.

Now instead of just taking all their weapons/armor/clothes to sell, the random junk is also useful for when I get back home and can upgrade the town, my weapons, or my armor!

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I mean, you can just ignore Sanctuary and the other settlements completely. Honestly, if I play it again, that'll be what I do.

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I would pay good money for a remaster of Fallout 3 using the Fallout 4 engine (or preferably better).

I'd pay even more for a full 3D version of Fallout 1 and 2.

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sopuli.xyz

Reality show

a series of games

If you want a reality show, just drop people into one of the weirder vaults and that's it.

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Vault 108. Only one actual Gary, but everyone needs to pretend to be Gary. The exact rules need some thinking but it shouldn't be too hard to come up with something.

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lemmy.world

Testing SPECIAL with games seems boring. They should do a multi layered social deduction game instead, where everyone has different goals, lies to another and nobody really understands what is going on until the end.

So some contestants are actors, and think they know where the show is going, but they are tricked as well.

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They need to finish TES VI before they start on the next fallout. And the "announcement" trailer for that was like 6 years ago

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lemmy.world

The quality of the Fallout TV show to me is somewhere post-season 4 Dexter. Not at Dexter's worst but far from great. It is watchable. Entertaining enough. Not very memorable. Good for syndicated reruns background noise while you eat. Milking something that doesn't have a very high peak

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I think it's better than that. The fact that it's so incredibly close to the games visually was a nice surprise.

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