I don’t think that’s an autism thing. I think that’s just a thing for people who don’t have enough meaning and purpose in their life to feel like they had a day’s worth of experiences yet when the day is over.
hmmm, I don't know. I relate with the OP a lot, yet I love what I do with my days... it's just that there is a kind of exhaustion that is social in nature, and I feel I need my airlock time (as my wife says) after any social event to be at peace, even when I feel tired af.
This could be an introvert thing. Introvert vs extrovert isn't about being shy or anything like the stereotype. The best way that I've heard to describe it is that an extrovert refills their emotional batteries through social activities, big groups, etc. while an introvert has their emotional batteries drained doing that and needs time alone to let themself recharge.
You can have a socially anxious extrovert who lives for hanging out in a big group of friends even if they don't talk much or anything, and an outgoing introvert who just needs to come home at the end of the day and sit on the floor with their back against a wall for awhile before they have the energy to do anything else.
Yea, a lot of posts in this community are like this. They may be more prevelant (or challenging) in the autistic community, but are often just "the annoyances of life".
Note: I do think in your rationale is missing "lack of time" as a factor, though. Often applying oneself to purpose is not the individual's fault, they just don't have the time to be fulfilled.
My wife and I call it decompressing, it's not about relaxing the body, it's about spacing out and doing something that requires zero brain power. I'm pretty sure almost everyone does it in some form or another, some just get to start earlier in the day, others just seem to already be on autopilot all day anyway and it extends to their bed time. It's not a neuro divergent thing
Except when the Adderall allows you to be mostly functional on three hours of sleep, effectively nullifying its effects on the ADHD but still enabling the bad habit of staying up all night.
Me since I started studying. I'm trying not to do it much but it's just so easy to go to bed a little late every day.
And usually the negative effects just aren't there when I'm on my meds. Moreso when I'm out and about all day, then when a less busy day comes around and my body unwinds a little it all catches up to me.
It can just mean physically exhausted. Like, if I ride my bike for 14 hours at a reasonably fast pace, I'm going to be tired. But that doesn't mean I feel like i need to sleep.
Right now, yeah? I've last time I did it, I took a short break lying on the side of a stroad, then biked to a nearby abandoned park and lied there for a while, and then went to a non abandoned park and walked for 3 hours catching beldums in pogo I think. Then biked home.
6-8am - get the kids moving, make multiple breakfasts because they all want something different (including SO), get family prepared to travel, etc.
8am - start work.
3-4pm - collect some kids from school, sit in line feeling like you're the worst because you're not #1 in line for pickup, but you don't think being there an hour early is reasonable.
5pm - end "work day", begin "evening" and figure out what's for dinner (we planned this weekly, so it's not too hard) then make it.
7pm - bedtime ritual starts. deal with ensuing tantrums because "I don't want to brush my teeth" or "I'm in the middle of this activity" or "why do I have to read?!".
8:30-9pm - kids are in bed. finally.
9:30-5:30 - MY FUCKING TIME. 8 hours where the rest of the family is asleep and I get to manage myself... poorly. I need 5h, so bedtime before 12:30 is acceptable. Ignoring rounding errors, 10pm-12pm is for me. ignore it at your peril.
"I'm tired but also easily overstimulated" is practically the diagnosis code for autism in young people.
Also a great pipeline to misuse of depressants. One is fully Lego-pilled after coming out of rehab, because it gives him an outlet for all that restless energy the drinking had flattened out.
There's not really settled science here. I can relate to that a bit but I'm not diagnosed as neurodivergent or anything. Also I sort of grew out of this as I got older. I dont have trouble sleeping almost at all anymore but it used to be a big struggle.
I think this is not "having trouble sleeping", this is "having trouble going to bed".
The way it works with me is that I just need some "me" time after a day of activities. Normally I get back home around 5-6 PM, so I do some chores and then have 2-4 hours for myself. If there are other activities - or more chores - forcing me to start the "me" time later, then I won't just skip it, I will still sit the 2-4 hours at my PC, I'll just do it at the cost of my regular sleep time, and go to bed at 2AM instead of at midnight, for example.
Oh trust me, I know how it works I just put it all under "trouble sleeping." Its a bad cycle to get into, getting more and more tired everyday. I honestly think I was just addicted to TV/computers and didnt know how to mentally deal with the urges. Perspective is incredibly powerful when it comes to mental state, but also habits are as well.
I will say I value sleep a lot more now. I used to treat it as a nuisance that didnt benefit me much, but ive grown to understand how important it is, along with what I eat. Perhaps despising sleep is not a healthy thing.
I came back to say I realized that I also started doing my "me" time in the early morning if I was really tired early the last night. When I was younger I would make myself stay up and play games or watch TV or else I'd be frustrated I wasted my night by sleeping. I really like being up before anyone else in the house and hanging out that way too now.
You know what's crazy? I can be depressed because of various shit, but it never made me quit stuff I really want to do (learning languages). It's just that I am even more tired (and maybe depressed) later.
I don’t think that’s an autism thing. I think that’s just a thing for people who don’t have enough meaning and purpose in their life to feel like they had a day’s worth of experiences yet when the day is over.
Which is a LOT of us.
hmmm, I don't know. I relate with the OP a lot, yet I love what I do with my days... it's just that there is a kind of exhaustion that is social in nature, and I feel I need my airlock time (as my wife says) after any social event to be at peace, even when I feel tired af.
This could be an introvert thing. Introvert vs extrovert isn't about being shy or anything like the stereotype. The best way that I've heard to describe it is that an extrovert refills their emotional batteries through social activities, big groups, etc. while an introvert has their emotional batteries drained doing that and needs time alone to let themself recharge.
You can have a socially anxious extrovert who lives for hanging out in a big group of friends even if they don't talk much or anything, and an outgoing introvert who just needs to come home at the end of the day and sit on the floor with their back against a wall for awhile before they have the energy to do anything else.
Anecdotally, I'm fortunate enough to have my average day jam packed with meaning and XP, and I still like to decompress.
Yea, a lot of posts in this community are like this. They may be more prevelant (or challenging) in the autistic community, but are often just "the annoyances of life".
Note: I do think in your rationale is missing "lack of time" as a factor, though. Often applying oneself to purpose is not the individual's fault, they just don't have the time to be fulfilled.
No. Nobody gets overwhelmed by a lack of meaning.
Delete this.
"I'm revenge procrastinating, must be neurodivergence"
Tbf, there probably is a high correlation between those.
Tbf anyone can be overworked.
Revenge procrastination ? revenge against someone in particular ?
Unfortunately, for me it's against me, usually
ehhh
I do this exact thing every day but I have next to no autistic traits.
I have ADHD but not autism and I do this. It's basically normal ADHD executive dysfunction I think, for me at least
revenge bedtime procrastination
Sleep avoidance is real.
My wife and I call it decompressing, it's not about relaxing the body, it's about spacing out and doing something that requires zero brain power. I'm pretty sure almost everyone does it in some form or another, some just get to start earlier in the day, others just seem to already be on autopilot all day anyway and it extends to their bed time. It's not a neuro divergent thing
It's like some people forget they are also just people and all people do things. Not everything they do is related to autism.
Sleep doesn't always recharge the battery
Dopamine depletion is real. Leaves you exhausted and prone to inertia.
Literally me all the time forever. I slept 4 hours today. Help.
Just call up any random psychiatrist and tell them your reason for the appointment is medication recommendations.
In and out in 1 hour and they'll prescribe a whole boatload of crap if you're really messed up or just some Adderall for ADHD.
Except when the Adderall allows you to be mostly functional on three hours of sleep, effectively nullifying its effects on the ADHD but still enabling the bad habit of staying up all night.
I don't recommend it, but it is one way to live.
Me since I started studying. I'm trying not to do it much but it's just so easy to go to bed a little late every day.
And usually the negative effects just aren't there when I'm on my meds. Moreso when I'm out and about all day, then when a less busy day comes around and my body unwinds a little it all catches up to me.
It's not really how it works in my country
Sorry about that homie.
aw shit
Ah, the classic, "wait doesn't everyone deal with this?"
I’m just staving off the next day before it crushes me too.
Tired doesn't always mean the same as sleepy 🤷♂️
"I'm tired of these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane!"
I am confident Samuel L. Jackson wasn't about to fall alseep when he said that.
You can be tired of something and have it mean that, but just being tired means sleepy.
It can just mean physically exhausted. Like, if I ride my bike for 14 hours at a reasonably fast pace, I'm going to be tired. But that doesn't mean I feel like i need to sleep.
It's a fine line between the two, but true.
Fairly sure that if you rode for 14 hours straight you'd conk out rápido
Right now, yeah? I've last time I did it, I took a short break lying on the side of a stroad, then biked to a nearby abandoned park and lied there for a while, and then went to a non abandoned park and walked for 3 hours catching beldums in pogo I think. Then biked home.
That took me a while to work out
I think that's everyone tbh.
If work wants a wide awake me, they'd better be paying me a lot more than they are.
I do this constantly if I've had to be around people late into the evening. I need to recharge enough to sleep.
Yeah this is just anyone that's trying to survive post COVID honestly. Don't need to put a label on surviving this shitty existence currently.
You have to decompress. After a full day of masking up and not losing it.
5:30-6am, wake up and become competent.
6-8am - get the kids moving, make multiple breakfasts because they all want something different (including SO), get family prepared to travel, etc.
8am - start work.
3-4pm - collect some kids from school, sit in line feeling like you're the worst because you're not #1 in line for pickup, but you don't think being there an hour early is reasonable.
5pm - end "work day", begin "evening" and figure out what's for dinner (we planned this weekly, so it's not too hard) then make it.
7pm - bedtime ritual starts. deal with ensuing tantrums because "I don't want to brush my teeth" or "I'm in the middle of this activity" or "why do I have to read?!".
8:30-9pm - kids are in bed. finally.
9:30-5:30 - MY FUCKING TIME. 8 hours where the rest of the family is asleep and I get to manage myself... poorly. I need 5h, so bedtime before 12:30 is acceptable. Ignoring rounding errors, 10pm-12pm is for me. ignore it at your peril.
I'm not refusing to sleep I usually just can't
It's the cuppa after 4pm that get's me.
i've been drinking 25 cups of coffee a day lately. in my defense, it's half caff
That's still just about half a Voltaire, you'll be fine.
gonna half to finish this whole fucking 72 k-cup box if i'm gonna write my masterpiece
Currently laying in bed unable to sleep. Stupid human bodies!
Rude.
Also, I should be sleeping, not scrolling...
"I'm tired but also easily overstimulated" is practically the diagnosis code for autism in young people.
Also a great pipeline to misuse of depressants. One is fully Lego-pilled after coming out of rehab, because it gives him an outlet for all that restless energy the drinking had flattened out.
Well, fuck.
yesssssss
fuck sleep
Sleep disorders are a form of divergence too! Huzzah ADHD! Huzzah narcolepsy!
Either that or they get too much anxiety at night or are addicted to stimulation
I have insomnia anyway ...
I'm supposed to be the ND one. That sounds like my neurotypical wife.
Yup
Uggghhhhh yeah
makes seventh latte
Wait, is this seriously a neurospicy thing??
Well, it certainly describes my AuDHD ass perfectly.
There's not really settled science here. I can relate to that a bit but I'm not diagnosed as neurodivergent or anything. Also I sort of grew out of this as I got older. I dont have trouble sleeping almost at all anymore but it used to be a big struggle.
I think this is not "having trouble sleeping", this is "having trouble going to bed".
The way it works with me is that I just need some "me" time after a day of activities. Normally I get back home around 5-6 PM, so I do some chores and then have 2-4 hours for myself. If there are other activities - or more chores - forcing me to start the "me" time later, then I won't just skip it, I will still sit the 2-4 hours at my PC, I'll just do it at the cost of my regular sleep time, and go to bed at 2AM instead of at midnight, for example.
Oh trust me, I know how it works I just put it all under "trouble sleeping." Its a bad cycle to get into, getting more and more tired everyday. I honestly think I was just addicted to TV/computers and didnt know how to mentally deal with the urges. Perspective is incredibly powerful when it comes to mental state, but also habits are as well.
I will say I value sleep a lot more now. I used to treat it as a nuisance that didnt benefit me much, but ive grown to understand how important it is, along with what I eat. Perhaps despising sleep is not a healthy thing.
I came back to say I realized that I also started doing my "me" time in the early morning if I was really tired early the last night. When I was younger I would make myself stay up and play games or watch TV or else I'd be frustrated I wasted my night by sleeping. I really like being up before anyone else in the house and hanging out that way too now.
@[email protected] - dude, why would you downvote my comment....?
This is why the benevolent spirits gave us energy drinks ✨
Definitely me
You know what's crazy? I can be depressed because of various shit, but it never made me quit stuff I really want to do (learning languages). It's just that I am even more tired (and maybe depressed) later.
Fuck, another nail in the coffin.
That's everyone.