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The first one stopped the shaking, the second got him back to "normal", the third finally started to give him a buzz, and the fourth just kept the party going

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midwest.social

On the other hand, a Long Island iced tea from Outback Steakhouse is probably just a shot of vodka in a glass of crushed iced filled with sugary brown concentrate.

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jaybonereply
lemmy.zip

I haven’t been to one in ages. But I remember them being pretty happy to serve you a big fat giant mug of beer like the size of a pitcher. So I’m guessing they don’t mind giving you a proper Long Island.

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lemmy.world

i got a piña colada at red lobster and they gave me a cup the size of the entire table

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Havnt been to a outback in probably a decade but they used to make some of the strongest drinks and if you ask for it "down under" you basically got a cup of straight liquor.

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Delphiareply
lemmy.world

Or they do it with half measures of everything, a little more mixer and a shitload of ice.

Still tastes almost the same but you have to order 6 of them to get utterly wankered not 3.

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That's what a club I used to go to did on 80s night. They used nugget ice (great for chewing on) and the drinks were cheap. So, it was a win-win. I could drink all night and not be totally wasted, and the drink was delicious. Only time I'd go to that club.

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lol why it just makes more sense that way. Now its fragmented and chaotic. It could be bundled and in order.

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lemmy.zip

It's always amazing when you find out how much more your parents generation drinks than you do. How much more their parents generation drank than they did. And how much more their great grandparents drank then all of y'all combined. This entire nation was hammered pretty much constantly.

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fodorreply
lemmy.zip

I was looking at current data on UK drinking and it was shockingly high. Not to disagree with you at all, but like, even today depending where you are, the numbers are wild. Booze is a hell of a drug.

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Well the British are their own fucking thing. Although I did see something just the other day about how gen z Brits drink way less than their forebearers as well. And all the Talking Heads were shocked about it as if it was the greatest sin known to man. Which is telling.

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hansoloreply
lemmy.today

Sure, but lack of access actually did reduce general consumption. The average person doesn't drink more during prohibition.

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Corkyskogreply
sh.itjust.works

Lack of access only reduced consumption among those who lost access. For those who were consuming bootleg their consumption increased. Often to harder liqours for obvious reasons.

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Yeah. That's the point. Reducing access has an effect. That's basic basic economics. So is the expectation that forbidding the sale of something so easy to make would create a robust informal market. But informal markets usually lock out casual consumers as they don't care or want to spend the time or effort to find a trustworthy contact for A bottle of wine.

This isn't rocket science, this is super basic economics.

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hansoloreply
lemmy.today

For some. Which is not enough to raise averages.

Look, I've just finished a bottle of wine, so I'm no teatotler. But what data does exist shows the immediate post-21st Amendment years as lower than pre-18th years. Prohibition was an overall failure, and I celebrate Repeal Day. but it did actually reduce the national average of alcohol consumption for a time.

https://theconversation.com/how-prohibition-changed-the-way-americans-drink-100-years-ago-129854

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Not sure how reliable it is, then. Or it could be that drinking culture bifurcated, where casual drinking stopped, and you either made it your life or did without, and a lot of the former category fucking died.

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Yeah, exactly. Tons of economics research shows how often people don't step out of line, so lack of access has real effects. Prohibition locked out casual drinkers and people with no trustworthy connect to a bootlegger.

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sh.itjust.works

Ha jokes on you, my great great grandfather ran a mule train up from Mexico loaded with liquor. Traded it for hard ciders and shine from the other Celtic families in the area, kept a mule worth himself though.

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One set of my great grandparents met as a "musician for a speakeasy" (given some stories there's no way it was just that) and a dancer for one.

Which makes it extra hilarious how much their daughter (one of my grandmas) really really obsessed over having the appearance of being high society. Definitely an over-correction. Ended up marrying into money, but was never high society.

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There was no prohibition in my country. I assume here they drank less from 1933 to 1945, but maybe the damn Nazis got drank a lot. Who knows?

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lemmy.zip

Most places will limit you to like two of those kinds of drinks. First time I learned this I thought I was being cut off. I was like “did I do something wrong?” They said no, you can order anything else. Just not more of those.

Which is odd, because they’ll let you order a beer and a shot as many times as you want, and that will fuck me up way more, for some reason.

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Derpenheimreply
lemmy.zip

You can taste it a lot more in a beer or shot. Its much less likely to sneak up on you, with how much alcohol is in a long Island, and the fact you can hardly taste it.

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The flavors combine somehow to make it VERY easy to drink. I need to try cointreau and a splash of coke to see if that really is the magic.

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As yellow said, if it's properly mixed, the effect is to be a very sweet iced tea taste where the alcohol is nearly unnoticeable. It's probably due to the mixer/syrup just obliterating the harshness of the alcohol. Before I gave up drinking, it was definitely one of the few drinks that could sneak up and kick you in the ass if you weren't paying attention.

The fact of sweet mixed drinks getting into you faster likely is also a contributing factor, and the classic liquors that they use are 'sugar heavy.'

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Depends on how it's made. I've had some (of varying strengths) where this was true, and others where the alcohol was more than apparent.

I've had margaritas like this, too. Unless it's really strong, in which case you're going to taste it no matter what.

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ryathalreply
sh.itjust.works

A proper long Island is about 5 ounces of liquid with 4 of them being liquor. That's way more potent than a bee and a shot.

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The "classic" is 5x15ml of liquor, you're supposed to do half measures for the classic mix. That's ~24ml of pure alcohol, about the same as a strong Double or a medium Triple beer.

IF you're doing half measures, which most places won't, because that gets the bartender shouted at.

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a beer and a shot as many times as you want, and that will fuck me up way more

me too!

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He didn't...

It's time to carry on, Angie. The Morning has come, so the Dream must end.

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When I was drinking it took half a bottle of whiskey for me to consider myself "drinking".

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Also probably fatter, having it with food, and the server mixing it made it weaker, or the owner was watering down the spirits...

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