Women’s rights are on a sharp decline in Israel.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/40650676
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/24/middleeast/israel-womens-rights-netanyahu-intl-cmdOpen linkView original on lemmy.world524
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you're telling me this ethnostate is discriminating against people??
I'm shocked! Shocked! Well, not that shocked.
Once they’ve killed all the Palestinians and journalists, the IDF will need someone new to shoot
You joke but this is why fascism isn’t sustainable. You always need a scapegoat and eventually your gonna run out of them as you make your population more and more uniform.
No you don't run-out:
Factionalism will always provide more "enemies" for that-Way.
"Corps Business: the 30 Management Principles of the US Marines" identified something in our nature, in 1 of the principles:
IF you just keep accumulating people, in say a village, or orgnaization, there is a point around 150-people, where factionalism sets-in.
Al Gore & Associates ( Goretex ) intentionally limits the parking-lot size, so that when it's visible that there are now enough people working at a site, that some are parking on the lawn, then they need another site.
Militaries all 'round the world have a 150-person "company" or equivalent, but not a 200-person one..
Even if some rabid ideology exterminates all "others", then it'll fractally divide-up & begin its civil-war, because factionalism is intrinsic to our unconscious-minds..
That'd be true for all except people who trained to dismantle unconscious-narcissism from their unconscious-mind's ruling-of-their-life..
& nobody I've encountered has earned that, except perhaps the Society of Believers ( the Shakers ) community it the US ( @ Sabbath Day Lake, iirc: Christians: they identify that THE primary cause of people not-staying is "too much community" ).
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Yup. Fascism's ideal end state is two blond guys arguing over who's the whiter one.
Im the greyest and blobbyiest!
While I don't disagree with you, that isn't at all what he said.
I'm sure they're efficient enough that they can start shooting new groups before they're completely finished the previous groups.
When they're done raping all the women and young girls of Palestine, they'll turn their rape spree onto Israeli women and young girls.
I wonder how all these pick me bitches openly supporting the IDF will twist the narrative for it.
This is unsurprising.
Israel is not known for their love of human rights.
So all three major religions want to make the lives of women more difficult.
Who'd have thought.
I don't know that I'd include judaism on a list of "three major religions." Hinduism and buddhism have much better claims on being in the top three.
In terms of numbers then yes.
But in terms of disproportionate influence then no.
Other way around but yea
You’re not calling Judaism a major religion are you?
Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, have billions of followers each. Judaism has a few million.
It has influence disproportionate to the number of followers. (But Hinduism and Buddhism should be ahead of it anyway, this is a very Western perspective)
Most Jews in Israel are Atheists.
Most surveys suggest that roughly 15-25% of Jewish Israelis do not believe in God or describe themselves as atheists or convinced non‑believers, depending on wording and methodology.
Zionism is the abandonment of the Torah by saying the Messiah will lead the Jews to the promises land and instead doing it themselves.
"God" for Israelis means "Jewish people". They are their own God.
One person VS. Multiple Surveys regarding the original claim that "most" are not religious.
The three Abrahamic religions? ...weird they all worship the same god by different names.
Yet the majority of the world are bootlicking israel
Leadershit maybe, but the general public seems to have had enough.
Leadershit are the ones making the difference right now. People's sentiment mean nothing unless they hold their leaders responsible. People are dying right now and still no action is being taken.
But the leaders are elected by the people and foreign conflict with always comes after domestic affairs like the economy
Large parts of the world don't have fair elections, or elections at all.
Also, yes people vote on domestic affairs first. Doesn't mean they support the foreign policy, just that it is a lower priority. We typically don't have "if all else was equal" in voting decisions.
Or we have situations like in the U.S. where both sides are in on the bootlicking. One side may go further than the other, but both choices are bad in this regard.
If the population keep voting for those type of leaders there is zero reasons for them to care about Palestine and listen to people. The only way is voting them out of the system and we sre in a very critical time where Gaza may cease to exists in few years. Time is running out
Yeah, that'll happen in a patriarchal theocracy.
You mean fascists don't respect human lives? But muh LGBT equals! Muh only democracy in the region!
But I thought that we (U.S. people) were supposed to support them because they are a champion of democracy and human rights.
I'm calling bullshit.
What have either the US or Israel got to do with democracy or human rights nowadays, anyway?
Depends on who's trying to say they're good ones
Most moral society now!
I don't doubt that Israel is backsliding on women's rights, but this "Women, Peace and Security Index" has got to be bullshit.
They have a bunch of parameters that try to capture the situation of women, and I'm sure that can be useful to gauge which way the wind is blowing for a single country, but it gets kinda ridiculous when Saudi Arabia gets a much better score than Turkey, China, India, Brazil, Iran, and Mexico.
Just a reminder that women were not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia until 2018.
63-million women genocided ( when newborn, all the way to husbands burning-to-death their wives, from what I'd read in other stuff, through past years ) proves that India isn't protecting women's lives..
https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/news/2024/4/why_are_millions_of_women_missing_in_india/
There's another article here on lemmy.world/c/world that was posted recently, about how now women are allowed to drive, in Saudi Arabia, but the regime is exterminating criticism, through executions.
The truth is hidden-in-the-murk, unfortunately..
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Hey everybody, this guy thinks he knows better than The Experts!
First of all they use the same model for all countries, so it's not unexpected that it's not perfect. I'm sure they would be happy to explain this to you themselves if you asked them.
But just to be clear, if an expert explicitly claimed that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is safer for women than Turkey, then they're drunk and need to go home.
If the experts claimed an helicopter crash is perfectly normal and a better outcome than a normal landing, I don't need to know to pilot to be able to tell they're full of bullshit.
I have a feeling Women’s Rights are in a decline globally.
Womencs rights will decline if it serves the ruling class.
When women were not in workforce, our rulers were pro-contraceptives and abortion. So women would enter workforce and which would increase worker competition and decrease wages. Today when people are not having kids, and its starting to threaten the ruler's workforce, they are now against abortions and contraceptives.
Not all countries claim that they care about women rights though. Those who claim they are but practically they are not are worse
Do you have an example of a country telling that they don't care about woman rights?
Humans have also created so many problems for humanity
And what guise did those problems come in?
Roman Pagans were famously awful for women's rights. And the New Atheist movement is full of sex pests on both sides of the Atlantic.
Toxic Masculinity exists independently of religious doctrine
The sky is blue, water makes things wet, blood is red.
Just saying things that are obvious, don't mind me.
I am pretty sure sky is blue deniers exists
There is the whole myth that ancient people couldn't see the colour blue. But that was because they didn't have a distinct word for it that didn't include other shades like purple.
Well, the sky isn't objectively blue, it just appears so to us.
Isn't that everything?
I think, technically speaking due to Rayleigh Scattering and the nature of our sun, the sky wouldn't be blue if it weren't for the composition of our atmosphere — if I'm remembering correctly. So the sky could potentially be a different color with a different atmosphere, or at least we would perceive it that way (we are also sensitive to the color blue, so it is easier to see).
Idk, this has led to many more questions than I anticipated. I guess if you're very strict about the light not being a part of the atmosphere due to scattering then it is not blue. Other factors like clouds, fog, smog, obviously play a part.
I can't understand why Rayleigh Scattering is presumed to be the only reason our sky is blue.
Oxygen's blue!
Isn't there enough oxygen in our atmosphere to affect its apparent-color??
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John Kerry warned that Israel can be Jewish, large, democratic, pick two. They picked Jewish and large. Now leopards are coming for faces.
Well yeah. Bigotry doesn't limit itself, never has, never will.
Fascism does hate wömen, after all
Men of Wö?
Exactly, bröther
Well when a country decides to go all in on religion...
Wow, I didn't expect bad people to be bad people 😮
they are baddies??
Only if you consider genocide and misogyny a bad thing I guess?
💯
Then they're so bad!
Well, the exact same happens in murica. If you partner with ultra religious people, this is the bullshit that'll happen.
unsurprising
Israel is currently on an absolutely bloodthirsty genocide bender right about now. The fact that it doesn’t give two shits about women’s rights is quite a bit further down the priority list from where it doesn’t give two shits about life in general, and is violently unaliving most everyone not like them in the region
Pretty ironic, actually.
Actually it was always a bloodthirthy genocidal state
Make a fascist society, get fascist society problems.
who is surprised? they’re inhuman nazis treating people like trash.
I mean I get that's bad, and it's definitely a sign of civilization regressing, and with each step backwards, we continue to inch towards the day where we finally topple any evidence of progress that has been built, and we're lucky if we can even hold it together enough to emerge from the ashes of modern society as feral bands of mud people with some chance of perhaps one day making it back to this same point in another 2000 years or so.
But, is the "loss of women's rights" perhaps offset by the privilege of knowing that even if you lose your rights, you can still be shitty to people of a different ethnicity without concern of public judgment or accountability for your shitty behavior? And if so, isn't that what freedom is all about?
That is what national-narcissism is about, certainly..
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https://archive.ph/CXUis
Yeah, cause socialist zionists dominated political power during that period. As racist as they were towards Palestinians, equality was increasing. That's not the ideological reality today.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1369118X.2024.2445637#abstract
Males bullying females is the "wedge" that they use to get far-right totalitarianism's basis in..
It's consistent, through different cultures, & it may be hardwired in our limbic system: bullying women is the basis for male-fascism-totalitarianism.
Counter it XOR fail the Great Filter, humankind..
Having-exterminated-ourselves is a "valid" choice, in Universe's Natural Selection's eyes..
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Leopards Eating Punim
I literally could not care less. Get fucked, Isreal. You voted for this.
Right wing government dislikes womens rights, more at 11.
makes sense tbh.
Reminder to all Americans in this thread, to go fix your damn dumpster fire, you guys are worse. Let the rest of us deal with Israel, you guys shut up and fix your shit.
Not gonna shed too many tears over this.