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Trump announces new class of U.S. battleships named after himself

The move comes amid outcry from Democrats after the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts affixed Trump's name to its sign in Washington.

Donald Trump’s name is being attached to a new class of U.S. battleships that will have nuclear capabilities.

Making the announcement at an event at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, Navy Secretary John Phelan referred to the warships as “Trump-class battleships" and said a forthcoming vessel dubbed the USS Defiant will be “the largest, deadliest and most versatile and best-looking warship anywhere on the world’s oceans.”

Trump’s eponymous battleships will be armed with guns and missiles, as well as hypersonic weapons, electronic rail guns and high-powered lasers.

Trump announces new class of U.S. battleships named after himselfhttps://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-class-battleships-nuclear-navy-john-phelan-rcna250601Open linkView original on lemmy.world
lemmy.world

It was probably easier for the DoW to pretend that this cruiser is a battleship than to make Trump understand that the battleships he keeps demanding are useless in a modern war.

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He only knows the word from seeing the board game that one time him and Epstein snorted coke off it

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lemmy.world

Next Dem should reclassify “Trump Ship” to mean the shittiest possible boat. Leave it as a classification, just redefine it

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Guy is so vain. If it isn't a re-badge of a project. Lay a keel or two and they'll rot in the yard before completion.

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Drusasreply
fedia.io

Those ships that you need to get rid of but it's too expensive to get rid of them so you just have them rotting away somewhere.

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If this was a just world, it would be the name of the leaky prison hulk that he's chained up inside.

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lemmy.world

I'm calling it: Trump is one Western movie watch away from ordering the military to bring back cavalry.

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lemmy.today

https://sopuli.xyz/post/38499583

Russia Continues Using Cavalry in Failed Assault, OSINT-Shared Video Reveals

Footage shared by the OSINT community shows Russian forces attempting to storm a Ukrainian position using a horse for transport, an assault that was ultimately halted by a Ukrainian drone strike, according to video published by Exilenova+ on December 22.

While unusual at first glance, the incident aligns with earlier reports indicating that Russian frontline units have increasingly relied on animals as substitutes for destroyed or unavailable military vehicles.

The Napoleonic era is coming back, baby.

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just2lookreply
lemmy.zip

We still have the cavalry, stetsons and all. Unless you mean like actual horse cavalry. The U.S. Army still maintains horses and stables. But the horses are mostly just for ceremonial/parade purposes.

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lemmy.today

It's a very small unit, though, from memory.

Also, occasionally US special forces have used horses in unusual, rugged terrain. There was some unit in Afghanistan that had some technical claim to being the most-recent cavalry charge in history.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Mazar-i-Sharif

Photo showing U.S. Army Special Forces and U.S. Air Force Combat Controllers in "the first American cavalry charge of the 21st century"[19] with General Dostum and his forces (Taken October 2001)

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lemmy.zip

Ceremonial horse cavalry is small, but 1st Cavalry Division still exists. Its more light armor and mechanized infantry instead of horse cavalry though.

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lemmy.today

Do they actually have horses?

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Apparently yes, though it's not huge either and it sounds like they're being dissolved too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Cavalry_Division_Horse_Cavalry_Detachment

The 40-soldier unit is equipped with 33 dark bay horses with minimal white markings which are outfitted with Model 1885 McClellan riding saddles that are hand-made by cavalry troopers in an on-site leather shop maintained at the unit's stables.

On 2 July 2025 the Army announced that the Military Working Equid program that includes the 1st Cavalry Division Horse Cavalry Detachment will cease operations and associated assets (MWEs) will be transferred, adopted, or donated within one year.

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Special forces it makes sense, but regular assault troops it’s just desperate.

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No no no, you don't understand. This one is going to be more than a hundred times more powerful because it's going to be bigger and faster!

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lemmy.world

The new vessels, which the president calls battleships, will be the latest in what the White House envisions as a Golden Fleet.

Dunno. They're quite easy to spot, aren't they?

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

you get 100 of them in formation and light the enemy on fire with the sun's rays

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This is the rare case where I don't actually disagree. Then again, I think he'd do this narcissistic nonsense even if people didn't care about Epstein. Creating petty distractions is just a habit for him, and it has always served him well.

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feddit.uk

Sir the autopilot is hard coded to go to some island

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Naming a class of ships after a (checks notes) draft dodger. Makes sense to me.

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lemmy.world

Bastard is trying to put his name so many places it’ll be damned near impossible to get rid of them all.

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mander.xyz

Has anyone seen a good list?

Name on:

  • Donald Trump US Institute for Peace
  • Donald Trump Kennedy center
  • Trump class battleship

Face on:

  • Gold card (the greencard you can buy into)
  • Annual National Parks Pass

What am I missing?

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I bet the ballroom will eventually be dedicated as the “Donald Trump Memorial East Wing Ballroom” if it ever gets finished.

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discuss.online

So it'll be 300% over budget, be riddled with problems from cutting every possible corner, torpedo itself, blame Biden, and then explode in public?

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lemmy.world

It's entirely possible it will simply be a scheme to transfer billions of dollars into their own pockets. Things gonna be made out of sheet aluminum and zip ties and cost 30 trillion dollars

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I was going to ask whether this was a trump "sharpie on map but we can ignore it once the press briefing is over" kind of situation or more of a "musk drew a couple of lines, glue them on with water soluble non-heat-resisident" kind of situation.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

There's a reason we don't have battleships anymore all around the world.

If you put all the firepower on one platform, you lose everything when that platform sinks. With the sophisticated asymmetrical weaponry out there, plus the ability to use cheap drone swarms, it's much smarter to spread the firepower over multiple platforms.

But diaper Donny the crooked pedo wants what all dictators want: compensate their micropenis with everything made bigger and more impressive than others while adding their name onto everything.

One torpedo and your golden battleship will be a very effective new coral reef.

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yeah, they've been pushing for smaller and smaller carriers from what i hear from my former (he earned that former) marine bil

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lemmy.today

That battleship appears to have no large guns, a stealthy hull, a helicopter platform, and I doubt armor, given the superstructure.

This kind of comes off to me like some of Japan's "destroyers".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izumo-class_destroyer

I'm wondering if what happened here is that the Navy wanted a cruiser and Trump wanted more honors.

EDIT: I'd also add that tradition is almost always to name the class after the lead ship, but the "Trump class", assuming the artist rendition there is of the lead ship, appears to be of a USS Defiant, not the USS Donald J. Trump. Not that I'm complaining --- I've long prefered the old British Navy style use of names like HMS Invincible or HMS Glorious or whatnot stuff. The USS Enterprise for the US, etc.

EDIT2: Apparently, based on other articles, the hull classification symbol is "BBG", which has never been used, but would theoretically refer to a guided missile battleship, so it could have a bunch of VLS cells for armament. I'm a little hazy on what would distinguish it from a guided missile cruiser (CG), though.

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lemmy.world

It’s not right if the Defiant is captained by someone who isn’t a mall manager and space Jesus

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They could be talking about an arsenal ship? Basically a battleship size missile carrier with loads of VLS cells

I think the US navy did study the concept, but found that it was more survivable to spread those cells across more ships than to concentrate them in larger hulls

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See, this is more of my beef with the system - battleships have been named after states almost exclusively. If he wants a ship named for himself it should be a CVN.

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Navy wanted a cruiser

That might be a good guess, perhaps two or three nuclear powered cruisers, fitted out for drone and anti drone work. Trumps gone and hijacked that.

I understand the Burkes were supposed to pick up the role the Ticonderoga class played, weren’t they?

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lemmy.ca

Is this like space force or the golden dome? Ie. a steaming pile of bullshit from the Swiss cheese mind of a dementia ward patient??

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lemmy.world

Space force might actually be a good idea, despite all the bs and misrepresentation. I can’t claim to know anything about military chain of command but if they say it’s beneficial to have a separate org focusing on space assets like satellites, I have no reason to claim otherwise

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lemmy.ca

There won't be any battleship.

This is just another grift to streak the government coffers dry

Same with the " golden dome", "doge", etc... all scams so his buddies can get lucrative contracts.

Even so, this is suuuuch a sad thing. A five year old would make a fantasy battle ship and name it after himself. Its pathetic

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It's not even that. He's so desperate for any kind of legacy that he's throwing his name at anything he can in the hopes it will stick, not realizing that the first non-MAGA president will remove his name from everything.

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It’s gonna smell like shit and for some reason everything’s gonna lean towards the bow

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Mega projects, no less with vanity as the centerpieces are a sign of weak militaries. The strong militaries are pursuing drone and anti drone technologies. Russian frigates warships are disabled by small Ukrainian aqua drones; and are hiding at port. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

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feddit.org

Here I am thinking how this will play out once MAGA ends. How was it in Germany after the war? I bet there used to be Hitler and Himmler Streets etc.

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europe.pub

oh yeah, this fucker is gonna be erased. all that will be left is a cautionary tale.

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discuss.online

Don't forget the;

  • USS Boondoggle
  • USS Malignant Narcissist
  • USS Grifter in Chief
  • USS Beautiful Clean Coal
  • USS Shark Exterminator

and the new flagship,

  • USS Like Nobody's Ever Seen Before
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Dude, I was literally thinking this a couple weeks ago, Trump bringing back battleships is completely on brand for him and I'm surprised honestly it took him this long

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Our military needs to start pushing back, international pressure of war crimes needs to be loud.

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lemmy.world

Didn't we stop using battleships once stuff like guided missiles started being common?

We've seen in Ukraine how much destruction cheap drones can do when used intelligently.

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slrpnk.net

he's only calling them battleships because as a fascist he has a simplified understanding of history and a fetishization of the past. these are surface to surface missile launch platforms with helicopter landing pads

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lemmy.world

I'm no expert, but given the distributed nature of the stuff I'm seeing with Ukraine against Russia, I would think a "not all eggs in the same basket" approach would be the best idea

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Yeh, even carriers are considered potentially outdated by some military planners should the US ever face an opponent that can actually fight back.

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It's becoming increasingly hard to see him as a man and not a toddler.

Are we sure he "aced" all those tests he did lately?

Edit: I just saw the article's image of him showing the ship. Shit, it really looks like a bad render of a 90's videogame... How can people say he's mentally fit?

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

By the time they are actually finished being constructed, he will likely be long dead. Not even being malicious; military vessel construction is slow as balls.

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lemmy.zip

Very bold of you to assume that any of them will ever finish construction. It feels like the US Navy has canceled more new ships than it's built in the past couple decades.

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How dare you suggest we not support our veterans! Those former-military-member owned contract companies need that money, don't cancel the umpteenth redesign/retrofit/scrapyard contract! (/s)

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lemmy.world

Why put 50 billion into one weapons platform when it can be sunk by a cheap drone?

I don't get it.

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I finally watched The Apprentice yesterday and somehow all I can think about him now is "what a sad, sad, sad little man". Feels freeing.

(I say this as a non-USian)

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lemmy.today

Yeah, we'll be changing that. In the future, it will be illegal to name anything after traitors, and that includes Confederate Civil War officers, and all MAGAs.

Anybody that objects will be investigated as a Domestic Terrorist, and if found to be actively MAGA, will go to prison.

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The name Trump will be treated like the name Adolf. Orange spray tans will be the new Charlie Chaplin mustache.

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Given his long list of failures and placing the most incompetent people into important positions, this ship will most likely do a Wasa on launch.

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If this ever get build, it'll sink on the maiden voyage from the weight of the golden cannons just like everyone knew it would but nobody in charge dared tell the king. Oh wait, that was another time and place.

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sh.itjust.works

Why are we building battleships? Aren’t they obsolete? Like at this point isn’t the whole edge for naval dominance submarines?

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Battleships are meant to bombard land positions... not go ship to ship. Leave that to the escorts.

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What a load of crap that is.

However it’s not going to happen. These would take way more years to develop than Trump has in office and I have to hope sanity will prevail. And if we can’t even develop the Zumwalt destroyer how can we hope to develop some boondoggle four times its size and complexity. How can the navy afford to run such things? And most importantly how can we deploy this big fat target that doesn’t add value?

Navy is complaining that it can’t keep up with Chinese shipbuilding so the last thing it needs is to blow its budget over the next decade or two with this nonsense. I have to believe this is just noise to placate Trump and will be resolved when he’s gone. However it will set the navy back another four years and waste billions of dollars

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lemmy.world

Haven't drones made these obsolete? A swarm of Chinese drones would cripple one in a day.

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lemmy.world

That's a good point, but it seems so obvious. I would we have a giant EMP or laser pointer thing that could wipe them out. Idk, just seems like they should have thought of that

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Fair point. I know Ukraine had been using them successfully. Maybe fiber optic drones? I feel like this is the new arms race.

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USA has nothing to do but spam stupid news. Fixed it for you.

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