Half-Life 3 Reportedly Delayed Due to Steam Machine Price, Leak Claims
A new leak claims that a Half-Life 3 announcement might have been delayed due to the Steam Machine price. According to the insider, Valve is still trying to determine the console’s cost due to skyrocketing hardware component prices, such as RAM.
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Curse this "AI" shit!
Curse the profit maxxing capitalism behind AI, if it wasn't AI, it would have been something else
I suppose that’s one way to look at it. Is this … optimism?
Half-Life 3 being ruines by tech bros wasn't in my bingo card but I'm not surprised at this point.
Tech Bros ruin everything 🤷♀️
Hatred towards tech bros somehow increased even higher.
Good
if valve is waiting for ram price to come down then steam machine won't be released until 2028....
It won't ever be released, prices are never coming back down
Lets have hope, if the AI bubble bursts prices will go down.
Or they keep the prices up because consumers got used to them.
I don't think I can get used to $1000 64 GB Ram.
It's not like RAM has never been this expensive before. It's still at a historically low price.
The US government has a financial vested interest in the AI bubble. They will artificially keep the bubble going. The AI bubble collapses when American society and government collapses.
Don’t threaten me with a good time
The United States has less and less influence on the world every day.
If it bursts the ram will be on graphic card in a warehouse somewhere. We still will need to ramp back up consumer production I assume.
Are they using the same ICs in the AI modules as they are in DIMMs?
If yes, then we can still hope for some level of a 2nd hand market, which may at least manage to be lower than the max at that point.
Not the same chips, but ddr5, gddr7, and hbm2 are made off the same wafers in the same plants. The issue is allocation in wafer and production time skewing towards the higher-margin items. DDR5 additionally is being made more into the server ecc variant, which companies are buying in droves for cost-efficient MOE inference.
Well, the server ECC variant is still pretty useful for desktop workloads. Just make sure AMD always supports it in the next generations. If it's still a DIMM, then it can be sold right away.
GDDR7, again, if the chip has the required pins as in GPUs, then GPU manufacturers can simply buy them, test them for a few hours maybe, and pop them in their lineups with a bit of re-calculation of traces (in case the exact pinout differs). Of course you get some re-soldering damage, but there's not much you can do about it. On the other hand, if the GDDR7 is in GPUs already, most the companies would require is to alter the firmwares a bit and sell refurbished units.
HBM2. Seems like it is possible to get slottable modules with HBM2. Pretty sure some industrious people in China will find a good use for them. Perhaps with RISC V processors?
And the AI specialised units shouldn't be fully useless either. Remember the cancer studies case?
It is still useful computing ability that can be used well by those who know how.
Considering how everything tied and glued together in IT, when AI bubble will blow up, not only it will collapse US economy, it will also increase all prices in IT, as I see it. ARM? Belongs to Nvidia. x86? Basically a duopoly of AMD and Intel. Anything IT and corp related? Most probably located or entirely American. Oracle, Microsoft, Google, Apple, etc. you name it.
Whole IT right now is like that dude from "it goes down" meme
ARM doesn't belong to Nvidia. They tried to buy it a few years ago and failed. Its majority owned by a Japanese conglomerate.
Nah, it'd bring prices crashing down as the market gets flooded with all the used hardware from the AI data centers being cleared out and auctioned off in bulk lots by bankruptcy courts and debt collectors, leading people to buy them by the truck loads and put on ebay for pennies on the original retail dollar.
Never thought I would be expressing accelerationist views but rn I just want the crash to happen. AI is bullshit and the sooner everyone realizes that the better.
Programmer buddy of mine was telling me their theory that AI is the last hurrah of Big Tech and Venture Capital, shifting a patient that has been in place since most of us were children.
Even after the Dot Bomb area is the 2000's, FinTech taking it in the chin in the 2008 global financial crisis, three meaningful Crypto rises and falls, and now AI, there's always been some new for train to institute and sell to the retail investor and the general public.
The beleaguered finances of middle classes pretty much everywhere, hand in hand with the deleted brain trusts from AI making us really dumb and unconfident (or falsely confident), convinced with the lack of new productivity borne from these last few market cycles (AI and Crypto not actually doing much for the majority of humans commensurate with the hype) results in a possible chance for actual market accountability and seeing only genuine market growth.
I think that megacrash and the world waking up to the marketing machine is considerably less likely, but agree with them (given their best experience in FinTech) that it might meaningfully end our collective beliefs that Silicon Valley can steer everyone towards brighter shores.
I don't remember where I heard it, but a phrase I quite like is "AI is the death drive of capitalism"
They think there's nothing else left so yes its the death throes of capitalism.
How about actually building good devices again? Devices we actually own that arent filled with spyware, and that are repairable and moddable by us. Or good software/os's. This is the problem with capitalism. It does not breed innovation.
But no. You'll own nothing and be happy. The ruling class cannot let us own anything ever again.
Pardon?
Even after the Dot Bomb era in 2000-2002 and beyond.
what in the fuck does ai have to do with this post
edit: oh its the hardware prices. yea
yes of course. HL3 is being delayed because something in the future is exploding backwards through time and fucking everything up. This is the only explanation I choose to accept.
The GMan has broken containment and is now wandering through our timeline, inserting people into the right points to change the future. I guess this explains the whacky wild ride we're currently on.
Game is delayed because they couldn't tell people about it on a stage. This sounds logical.
"All good things..."
Oh yeah, hardware prices are what's preventing HL3 from coming out. Sure.
I'm guessing they want to bundle it with the machine and have it as a sort of "demo" game.
Which isnt unprecedented.. they did the same thing with Alyx and Index, didnt they?
Similar thing with Orange Box back in the day, too
the orange box wasnt released along side any steam hardware? that i can recall at least.
No, Steam didn't have their own hardware back then afaik, but it introduced Portal alongside new installments of two extremely popular existing franchises. That's why I said it was similar instead of the same thing.
Team Fortress was not an "extremely popular existing franchise" even among dedicated PC gamers. What the Orange Box did was let Valve experiment with marketing materials like the teaser videos for Portal and "Meet the Heavy."
man.. I really wish valve would go back and make new Meet The videos.. or just TF2 videos in general. The first ones, like Heavy, got so ripped off compared to later ones like the Pyros
TFC was one of the most-played mods for HL1, there was plenty of anticipation around it
Game journalists need to hit a quota; quick, start a HL3 rumor for clicks!
Linux as a gaming machine dream gets destroyed by ram prices..
Just gonna quote what I said last time, applies here too
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/18300304
This is just straight cope. HL3 isn't coming out anytime soon.
I'm confused, was there any expectation it would that I missed? As far as I know half life is dead. They never even finished episode 3 of half life 2 from like two decades ago.
Half-Life Alyx proves it's not totally dead. It even retconned an important plot point, which would make sense to do if they're planning to continue the story in some way.
There are persistent rumors that Valve is planning to release it alongside the Steam Machine.
There has been a lot of data mining in the past few months that indicates they are working on something that has yet to be released, which is very likely a Half Life game. I've been watching the HLX Files series by Tyler McVicker for a while as he sticks to just facts without much hype.
https://www.youtube.com/@TylerMcVicker1/videos
Right
Pic or it never happened.
Please Gabe sell a special edition orange one for half life 3.
Are you asking them to release an... Orange Box?
Would be pretty cool to have the Orange Box have a copy of the Orange Box preinstalled
Yeah and it'd be cool if they threw in a couple other games to show its versatility. HL3 of course, but a multiplayer game and maybe a unique puzzle game would be a good mix of game types.
Orange Box 2, Which is a computer and contains no sequels to anything that was in The Orange Box
Hopium administered
Half life 3 won't happen.
So that's why it takes so long.
A few weeks ago journalists said that complete systems will not be affected short term because OEMs order RAM and SSDs a year in advance.
So what is it?
It is a Vice article. It has the journalistic credibility of a dirty wet wipe.
Edit: Lol, the source is an off the cuff remark of Mike Straw on a podcast. The same Dude has been teasing this news of an alleged leak since November and produced not a single shred of evidence while being an asshat on xitter about it at the same time. This is not the first time this guy speculates over future games and is taken out of context by fans.
You won’t be able to order the next batch unless you charge the increase in the first as you won’t have the funds.
Just because a journalist says something doesn’t mean it’s even remotely true.
Basic economics.
It'll depend on the futures contracts. They'll have price clauses and, get-out clauses , resale clauses and stuff, so it'll come down to lawyering.
It's unlikely that journos know the contract details. Buy clearly any OEM without a futures contract already in place does not have access to low prices.
And any OEM with cheap stock and contractual freedom to resell would seriously consider parting out and selling off stock at the windfall price.
Give it another week and the ram for the steam machine will cost more than the whole steam machine the day it was announced.
Hopium administrated
Nice
Bundle it with Star Citizen
And Beyond Good & Evil 2.
You uh, that's all three wishes, you sure you don't want something more traditional, like world peace or something?
lol
Don't get my hopes up, especially if what they eventually release is in Duke Nukem Forever quality.
Lol, half-life 3...the end really must be near!!!
Why bundle HL3 as launch title? Feels a bit too much to develop the most memed game ever + trying to figure out the logistics of 3 new hardware products at the same time. People won’t exactly rush to buy Steam Machine for HL3 if they already have a decent PC.
Because it's not actually "half life three". It's (half life)^3. One of the hardware constraints is that has to be played on something cubic.
Having a plan and external pressures wrecking the whole thing has some strong Aliens^3 vibes, so that checks out.
Maybe they just realised in time about the upcoming RAM price hike and setup both to each other, so that either one becomes an excuse for the other.
I’m ready to be hurt again.
X Doubt
HL3 announcement before GTA VI release?
It is kind of funny how the title says one thing, and then the very next sentence says loljk, just the announcement, which has obviously zero things in common with development.
So the leaks were always bullshit.
Suckers
Who cares about HL3 at this point. Fuck Valve.