Trump Designates Fentanyl as a Weapon of Mass Destruction
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Fuckin LOL. That’s too on the nose man. It’s Iraq all over again
That's exactly why he's doing this.
False claim one; Fentanyl is a WMD
False claim two; Fentanyl is coming from Venezuela.
Enjoy twenty more years of quagmire America.
You're missing the other countries he's used fentanyl to harass: Mexico, Canada, and China.
Okay, but all of those are evil countries corrupted by the insidious hand of the Marxist Antifa
At least those countries are at least associated with fenntanyl and its supply chain. Venezuela is not as far as I'm aware. So it makes the whole thing much more preposterous.
And just to clarify, we should not be starting any wars over the drug trade since that is much more effectively combatted by dealing with the causes here at home. As long as there is demand there will always be supply.
You're assuming he's talking about using this as an excuse to invade Venezuela. I'm assuming he'll use it as an excuse to invade Canada and Mexico. He's already made up bullshit about how it's pouring over our border, and he's already threatened our country with annexation.
There's no way that happens. The oligarchs would lose money in the conflict. They gain money in a Venezuela conflict presumably. They have a lot of oil, like almost Saudi levels of oil, and there isnt enough trade with Venezuela for a war to upset the pocket books of the wealthy.
I'm sure the US could feel entitled to Canadian oil too, and then make up a justification afterwards.
Yes, I agree in principle. However, the economics (well, monied interests) of it right now are not favorable. Too many people with money to make in US-Canadian trade would pull support for the politicians that push for it. That may change over time.
I think the idea was floated in the media by Mr Asshat because someone wanting the oil was interested in capturing it, but the push back from other donors was clear, and we dont hear them talking about it anymore other than to defend their "right" to float such ideas.
If they invade it, the US won't attempt to annex Mexico because giving Mexicans US citizenship will piss off Trump's racist supporters.
More fentanyl flows into Canada from the US than flows into the US from Canada.
Wasn't that part of the Iraq justification? "We know they have WMDs because we gave them to them!"
Sure, buddy...
I'm not saying Canada has a significant role. Venezuela just isn't involved at all.
"Based on seizure data and law enforcement investigation information, the consensus among U.S. authorities is that Mexico was the only significant source of illicit fentanyl and fentanyl analogues trafficked into the United States in 2024."
Source
Venezuela isn't even mentioned. Neither is Canada I suppose. And that is U.S. gov data. So not like they can claim they didn't know.
You're forgetting a crucial thing: Trump doesn't care about facts
That's a pretty hard thing to forget. Still thinks its worth acknowledging the lies though.
We just need to send Pete Hegseth to the UN with a little vial of enough fentanyl to kill a handful of horses.
Bonus, make it real fentanyl and he probably won't make it out of the bathroom alive.
He's a professional he'd just go fent lean at the UN podium
Get bent, Hegseth
That and further tarnishing the states' image on the world stage. But that's a moot point now. Everyone can see they (the gov) are the baddies.
You are kidding yourself if you think the rest of the world thinks this isn't because Americans are fucking ignorant moron fascists.
You have a democratically elected government. This is what you chose.
I'm not American and I was being generous.
It's literally all American foreign policy since the 1940s.
https://read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/901/The-School-of-the-AmericasMilitary-Training-and
This is a good summary of what we've done to South America. Ask Anna for a copy. There are various YT docos out too on the topic.
Yellow cake fentanyl is being produce in Africa and Iran.
I fly an EMS helicopter. We use fentanyl every day for pain management.
This world is a joke
So you transport and utilize WMDs on the daily?
That's something really cool to brag about on a date lmao
Hey it's me ur date
Sounds like a terrorist. Get em boys!
No the world isnt a joke. Your country is a joke.
The stupid! It burns!
JFC but I am so goddam tired of uttering the words “What a fuckin’ moron,” every time I read about him.
Because you're taking him at face value.
He knows that fentanyl isn't a nuke. He knows that. But by saying it, and by not having anyone to stop him from saying it, he gets to get away with saying it.
That doesn't make him stupid. That makes him evil.
I'll simplify the situation. It's like when you're in elementary school, and the class bully grabs your wrist, and hits you with your own hand.
Then asks "why are you hitting yourself?"
The bully knows what he's doing. Normally this is when the teacher steps in to stop it. But what if the teacher didn't exist? And what if instead of a classroom, it was the whole world?
The bully isn't stupid enough to think you're just being self destructive. The bully gets off on the fact that he's having fun with no one to stop him.
And that's where we are with trump. A schoolyard bully with no oversight to stop him. And oh yeah, by the way, he also dictates the biggest military on the planet. With argueably the biggest stockpile of nukes.
I don't believe he knows a thing. The people he put in charge of his policy do know these things
And we thought G.W. Bush was an idiot... I kinda miss that guy now.
He was/is. Someone being even dumber doesn't change that.
It's the same picture
Maybe we're just worse now.
Or more likely the modern media landscape is. I shudder to think of the bush administration with today's connected world.
Cut that shit out. There is a DIRECT line from Reagan to Bush to Trump- and it’s American citizens’ inaction that allowed it to play out.
Bush was even worse than trump and unless trump turns somewhere into Iraq 2.0 he will continue to be.
People forget who Bush was. They forget everything but his dumb laugh. The economy tanked under Bush. He started two wars. He ushered in the Patriot Act. Education was gutted. Tax cuts for the rich. Contracts for corporations.
Bush laid the blueprints out for people like Trump.
I don't know if you heard, but there's this place called "Venezuela"...
Yes and at this point he hasn't done anything nearly as bad as Bush in Iraq he very probably could but i truthfully see it more likely he doesn't and just bombs some land claims he destroyed drug operations and continues the aggression and so on he could turn it to Iraq 2.0 but so far he hasn't. To be clear what he's done already is terrible and he will almost certainly do more.
Give it a minute. The Bush administration hyped the idea of WMDs in Iraq for well over a year before they actually invaded.
And considering the size of the military build-up that's been going on off the coast of Venezuela over the last several months, it's pretty obvious what their intensions are. There is no other practical reason for that amount of ships, planes and active duty personnel, other than invasion.
Maybe he is incompetent, but the administration is not. And malicious? Yes they are.
I mean, it was inevitable.
Even if you follow and believe his line of logic about Biden in 2022, saying Biden is too old, then you have to ALSO follow the logic that trump is 2 years younger than Biden. Which means by 2024 trump is the same age that Biden was "too old to be president".
Our last president who didn't qualify for AARP left office in 2017.
Well Trump has the advantage of not actually doing the job. Less stress.
He didn't do the job from 2017-2021, or 2025-today either.....
That's what I said.
Oh. I thought you meant he could say that in 2022 because he wasn't the president then. Sorry, that's how I read it.
Also...remember when his whole campaign was all about criticizing Republican warhawks for the "disastrous war in Iraq", and how he'd never support something like that?
Yeah. Good times.
So how is biden doing these days?
Oh, in treatment for prostate cancer. Not terrible, but still stressful. It'd be nice to have a healthy president, if only we had the choice.
In all fairness, I don’t think any of this crazy is coming from Trump. It’s the perfectly sane fascists he has hired.
I think people are missing something pretty important here: this creates justification to use the US military against its citizens. Sure, it may just be to justify an invasion of Venezuela, but I suspect it's more substantial than that. Saying the cartels have WMDs within the United States manufactures a threat that the military needs to fight. These "WMDs" are in every state and every city. They have manufactured a credible reason to use the military anywhere in the US against any group of people because it's so pervasive.
Well... That sucks. Makes a depressing amount of sense.
When you think back... WMD was what justified the war in Iraq. Now he says this drug is a WMD and is coming in to USA from Canada. Is this his push to justify a full scale attack on Canada?
Trump's threatening of Canada has everything to do with the Tar Sands and trying to bully oil suppliers out of the market to keep the oil price from crashing.
Starting an actual conflict with Canada wouldn't really help that longterm for the US, which doesn't mean it won't happen but makes it an accidental eventuality that could happen as an unintended less-likely outcome rather than an intended effect.
Little more to the south. But you're spot on
Sadly, Canada has supported US on designation of Mexican cartels as "state sponsored terrorists", and continues to provide logistical support for boat murders. Humanizing Trump/US empire does justify "Canadian values are to submit to being the next US invasion target". Gaslighting of Canadians to permanent submission to US is only policy/values we have.
If they really cared about drug addiction and the consequences the sacklers would be in prison and he wouldn’t be pardoning every drug trafficker that gives him a bribe
why even add this? the cdc's data doesn't even mention it in the top 10 causes.
Yesterday he said the US has earned $18 trillion from import tariffs when the entire US trade is around $7 trillion.
Truth means nothing. Reality means nothing.
Cool we made 18 trillion, prices should be going down any minute now
What do you mean "going down"?? They're already lowest in history, the best prices under any president, anyone can tell you that, the prices are some of the most beautiful prices you've ever seen, people come and tell me they have never seen prices so low like this, they say how do you do it, how, because prices were high under crooked Joe Biden and would be even worse under crooked Kamary Harrton, but thanks to our beautiful tariffs we are now respected, the world respects us, and politicians from all over the world come to me for advice on running their countries because we have the most beautiful prices in history! Thank you for your attention to this matter.
literally 1984
So, anybody that's ever knowingly handled, trafficked or deployed a Weapon of Mass Destruction on US soil is going to be hunted down by anti terror agents, I'm assuming?
Doctors, nurses, delivery companies, pharmaceuticals manufacturers, etc, yes?
Not to mention the number of countries in the world and free agents that now have access to huge numbers of WMDs, all of whom now need to be closely monitored and the US must change its relationship with all of them, given the seriousness of what they now possess.
And obviously, anybody that's ever publicly deployed a WMD anywhere will have to be detained if they attempt to enter the USA. Can't have potential terrorists wandering about the country after all, not if they're on record as committing the unspeakable act of using a Weapon of Mass Destruction on a peaceful public populace.
This is just a flimsy justification for America's military invasion of Canada, given their repeated, official accusations from the very highest levels in their government, that Canada is flooding huge amounts of fentanyl into the USA.
To claim it is a WMD, after claiming Canada is attacking their country with it, and then to not take any military action against Canada to defend against these WMD attacks, would be admitting military defeat.
Has the USA admitted that Canada has bested them on the field of battle? Are they too scared to meet Canada head on? Sure seems like it.
What does that even look like, the day after US troops occupy
TorontoOttowa? Canadians waging an insurgency from the woods, occasionally killing some random cops?Do you think Canada doesn't have a military or something?
America's military budget is 895B. Canada's military budget is 9.3B; essentially a rounding error here.
He will use the to justify a war. Which he will then use as an excuse to not have elections (because he saw Zelenskyy do it.) But I bet a cheeseburger takes him out before any of that.
The us had elections in WW2 and the civil war.
I’m well aware.
But this is speculation on what Trump could do to justify his usual unprecedented antics.
His idiot followers don't know that.
And if not, I sincerely hope that a cheeseburger takes me out before any of that.
The US is now post-parody.
Imagine getting charged with a personal amount of WMDs
Some smoke detectors have some radioactive materials in them.
So America is harboring WMDs? Quick somebody assemble a coalition of the willing to liberate them.
It's even being controlled by religious fundamentalists!
You mean terrorist organizations?
Yes
This may be the plan, internally. I believe there are certain provisions that allow the US military and intelligence groups broader rights if they can categorize the action as "against WMDs".
That's a really good point. They can say Venezuela has fentanyl and invade their country.
Canadian super labs.
drone strikes on Pfizer and Merck facilities are imminent! The Sackler family are being sent to Gauntanamo!
We could do that or we can invade a bunch of countries and strip away rights from people.
One can dream
Cool throw the Sachlers in prison for war crimes then. The opiod epidemic stems from them.
Temu Iraq War
Flip side, Venezuela probably does actually have fent
Man, my other in law just dislocated her replacement hip 2 weeks so, imma have to sue the ambulance company for going so nuclear on her, I heard she got two doses of the stuff on the ride to the hospital...
Oh, this is no joke. It lets them use any laws relevant to WMD on citizens suspected of having fentanyl.
Laws are based on words and definitions. If you change the words and definitions, you change the laws. It's also why we've been in a "state of emergency" for the entire year.
Isn't this the drug that cops in America freak out at if you merely mention it?
That doesn't really narrow things down.
And yet, when used in medicine, the drug has to be ingested or injected. We can't just rub it on the skin.
Hmmm
You think that is a feat? My mere appearance is enough to break certain people's minds, my mere existence sends certain people into a murderous, catatonic rages. The knowledge I have is such a threat to the government that if I utter it to enough people I risk a prison sentence.
My sibling in sin, this is only a sample of my power.
yay! now all they have to do is plant or falsely charge you with possession of fentanyl and you're listed as a terrorist, deported via NSPM-7, and disappeared forever.
/s
That's an extremely mild response for a WMD. They can bomb the shit out of anyone anywhere at any time and just say they suspected they might be smuggling fentanyl. This is really just carte blanche to murder people at will.
Also attacking or invading other countries is absolutely on the cards, as long as the body of evidence for WMDs is on a par with what was used to invade Iraq.
You can remove the /s… that’s going to be Trumps playbook moving forward.
Maybe just the “yay” was /s
Fentanyl the WMD is all over every hospital and nursing home in America. Time to send in the UN inspectors and set up the no fly zones.
Sounds like you have a wmd that's easy for police to plant on people.
OMG, I was under a weapon of mass destruction during surgery a few weeks ago!
good shit aint it
I broke and dislocated my shoulder (twice in 2 days for the dislocation) and Fentanyl was great
Certainly gets a rave review from me.
Why does everything have to be so extreme. I tired of this chaos.
If it wasn't, Trump couldn't justify what he's doing.
Not everything! The Democrats are very moderate.
I think you just answered the question. Dems might be too moderate.
I think that was his point.
Fentanyl is, if not the most common, a very common opiate used in hospitals, with virtue of being the cheapest. It's overdose danger, is that a normal dose is of much smaller size, and then so is a fatal one. Usually GOP/CIA is pro addicts and overdoses because you need to vote GOP harder to punish them harder.
Instead of lying for "easy to win wars so that the US/Trump can look tougher and/or perhaps cancel elections", if opiates were a real issue, then programs including forced detox, but free voluntary detox too, A pharma incentive to make better non-addictive pain relief (aspirin/tylenol/advil), or making a deal with Taliban to produce "state opium farms" so that our hospital system (source of street fentanyl through theft) can go back to "safe opiates".... are all direct solutions to a stated problem instead of false tariffs and war excuses.
The entire war on drugs was created so they could make blacks and hippies felons so they couldn't vote.
It's never been about the betterment of society.
It's not the dick, it's the cowardice we disparage.
Oh come on. I just want something, anything, that could be plausible being the context for whatever they do next.
Fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction?
That's going to cause a lot of hospitals to close because they can't maintain the security requirements to house it.
But that's the point. Close hospitals, more people die.
I'm sure the U.S. will try to justify some invasion with this since they used that excuse exactly to invade Iraq
Cool. At one point in my life, I was like 8% WMD by volume.
This fucking guy. Anything to distract from the pedophilia.
That seems like a lot when I hear it kills law enforcement just being in its presence.
That shit makes me so angry. I made a full presentation in uni about it last year. Not one single case of an OD from skin contact has ever occurred. It's simply not possible. They are the ultimate drama queens.
This is why only the legislature should be "designating" things like "terror groups" and "WMDs" .
Edit: A view I think should be pushed on this is that anti-terror laws are just a type of war mobilization against a stateless enemy. Each time a group is declared war on (aka designated a terrorist) there should both be a vote in the legislature per the constitution and the government should have a clearly written scope and budget for such a war, including a tax levy
Faithless
"Mass Destruction"
That was 2004
Such a good album too, a real masterpiece
If I'm ever in combat, I hope like hell the only things they drop on me is fentanyl.
I want the Epstein files released too but idk how I feel about this being posted on things like this since its setting up for an invasion of a sovereign country, likely to cause uncountable innocent deaths. Not to mention the fact that this also sets a pretext for our country being invaded as well (I see you're also a .ca'er)
Oh yeah, we're not in a good place. Neither is Venezuela, and likely neither is Cuba as a result of this shit show. I'm really disheartened at the moment. I think the meme is just cope for me, really hoping this ends up being just another distraction that blows up in their faces before they go through with it. 😔
Yeah, I totally get you. Things aren't great right now 🥲
So, can some folks here correct my ignorance. I was under the impression that most of the fentanyl entering the US is being manufactured in China. It doesn't sound crazy to me that this is some sort of conspiracy to weaken the American public.
I'm not sure why we can't just decriminalize drugs so folks and do heroin in peace. Or maybe fix some of the problems that are causing people to do drugs.
Ok but where exactly did you get that impression and what evidence have you seen to actually prove it? If we didn't want drugs in our country it would be easy to prevent, but we're busy using their presence as a justification for mass incarceration/slave labor and our foreign policy so it would be inconcenient for the supply to suddenly dry up. You should be extremely skeptical of anything US media says. The obvious answer to the second part is "money"
Don't need a 100% interception success rate to successfully suppress domestic black market drug supply, but we're not actually trying to do that anyway
I think I saw or heard something by Hamilton Morris about China being where most of the fentanyl is made. China has some amazing drug manufacturing facilities and they usually make stuff that people need. But the chemists there are really smart and can make lots of different chemicals.
If the drugs aren't coming from China where do you think they're coming from? My source is admittedly weak, that's why I was asking to be corrected.
Also how do you prevent drugs from entering a country? Wouldn't reducing the demands for drugs be a more permanent solution?
If you saw or heard it but can't prove it then you should probably be looking for evidence before you start telling other people it's true. If I had to guess where our drugs are coming from I'd assume they're being produced by some US puppet state in the middle east or south america and smuggled in by the CIA because that's how they've been doing it for most of a century now. Yes, reducing demand by directly addressing the social and economic conditions that lead to drug abuse in the first place would be far more effective than just criminalizing use & trafficking, which is exactly why we're not doing that.
Do you have a good source for that claim?
Which one? US intelligence being involved in drug smuggling or social services/rehab&etc working better than criminalization? Either way the answer is yes a shitload, they're both extremely well documented subjects
That fentanyl is primarily coming from the Middle East.
I said "if I had to guess" and "the middle east or south america"
You need healthcare to handle the ramifications of the drug pandemic that comes from legalizing heroin.
Do you have some of that healthcare because the Dotard sure as hell doesn’t. He’s too busy stealing from every pot of government money.
Reverse Opium Wars lolol
Generally China is being worryingly successful recently
Hmm, attacking foreign places under the guise of weapons of mass destruction. Sounds familiar, but I can't place it.
/s
It is most certainly not coming from Venezuela.
The precursor is made in China, but not fentanyl itself. They sell the precursor, and, IIRC, it's largely finished in Mexico. The precursor is nominally legal, so it's shipped as close as it can be to be manufactured.
It's mostly cocaine coming through Venezuela I think. It's not being grown there, but it is one of several shipping routes.
Pain management is a profitable industry, there is an illegal black market around it, but I'm pretty sure pharmacies are still the largest supplier.
People go to the black market after the primary market fails, like they lose their insurance.
I know, they should have access to something safer than fentanyl, especially since the way it's taken it only lasts very briefly and is very addictive.
But the margins are a lot healthier on synthetics, plus everyone is put off by oxy now. It got some bad press for getting people hooked on drugs.
If this is a preamble to justify a new decade of carpet-bombing a third world country again: I sort of really hope it the final straw that finally gets NATO to intervene; treating the USA as a global threat. I know it's just a pipe dream, but I can dream nonetheless
The best NATO can do is to help the constitutionalist side in a US civil war while fighting russia at the same time (who will try to provide support to the monarchist side, but it will be hard without controlling both coasts and Canada). Hah, maybe russia/China would try to smuggle help in through Mexico.
So I guess that means hospitals cant use it anymore.
Sucks for everyone with a major injury.
This bitch tryin' to do the Iraq yellow cake bullshit thing? And I thought 1.0 was stupid, but this...
I'm OOTL on this reference. Source pls mktanks
Cutting USAID was a weapon of mass destruction. Estimated 500.000 to 1.000.000 deaths. Source
How many defense contractors contributed to the ballroom?
more like name one who didn't!
What kind of powers and exception to the "rules" does he get to target someone "shipping a WMD" not that he needs to really bother.
GOOD! Now I can call in Bomb Threats to Children's Hospitals AGAIN!
-LITERALLY Republicans!
See what happens when you put past war criminal presidents on pedestals without any consequences?
Donnie wants that too.
Well done USA.
...until he needs it for medical reasons, of course. Then he will happily accept it while denying it to your family members.
Just gaming the system. That he still has to game it and isn't able to simply ignore it is encouraging.
While i agree this is the dumbest way to approach it, opiates have been the destroyers of civilization for hundreds of years. I remember learning about opium dens in grade school.
Are we taking down pharmaceutical companies now? Or did ice forget to protect our borders by looking at what was actually crossing them?
I hate this timeline.
The last few wars on drugs were just so effective
So it’s a painkiller?
Faithless sang it best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzgBD2wysuI
Trump ain't wrong here but those are just words. He's already fueled a lot of drug deaths by his policies. You could say that eating too much processed food is a weapon of mass destruction as well, looking at the death stats ( at least the stats that are not hidden under the new régime ).
Rats! My penis has been snubbed once more!