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What exactly is this behaviour called?

When someone repeats an argument that has been proven false /badly argued many times before, but keeps repeating it in hopes of drowning out opposition or derailing a thread. Yet not disruptive enough to get banned on forums, as it wraps itself in non-hostile, nicely written sentences.

How exactly do moderators deal with this kind of behaviour?

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In politics it's been called "flooding the zone"

Could also qualify as "sandbagging" or simply "bad faith"

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fizzlereply

Neither of these really apply?

The big lie refers to a very big lie, but OP is talking about something subtle.

A gish gallop refers to many lies, such that an opponent cant refute all of them, but OP is talking about one lie.

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I think this is just a form of propaganda. If you really want a name then maybe Ad Nauseum.

Tricky to moderate. You need to identify, and have objective evidence of, a pattern of behaviour from a user. It needs to be enough that an independent ambivalent third party would agree that the intent is propaganda. I think this is kinda impossible honestly.

If its a small fiefdom community, just ban them.

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fedia.io

I don't know what you're describing is called, but since the world is measured flat and I, for one, didn't evolve from monkeys, your point is moot. Respectfully.

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feddit.org

Wellโ€ฆ it might surprise you, considering the context of your comment but you are partly correct: Humans did in fact not evolve from Monkeys.

::: spoiler Tap for spoiler monkeys and humans share a common ancestor. :::

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AmidFurorreply
fedia.io

I thank you for your polite, informative comment. However, I still didn't evolve from any monkey. Maybe you and your Glober friends did, but not me. Good luck in your endeavors!

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I can feel a hint of the confused anger I would have felt if this was real. Good job.

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It would be a Gish gallop if they do some brigading; that's how they usually scare off OP. Since he did not know he was making a controversial statement, and did not pre-emptively stop the Gish Gallop.

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Starya67reply
lemmy.world

Sea lioning is pretending to be interested in a reasonable discussion when you're really looking to wind someone up until they lose their temper.

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steeznsonreply
lemmy.world

This one I've always been wary of. I studied philosophy so I know a bit about arguments and sealioning is unusual because it can only really take place over the internet where someone is asking questions in bad faith and you can't 100% call them out because you don't know their identity for sure. Firstly I don't like the idea that questions can be bad faith - especially seemingly trivial or obvious ones - since that goes against the Socratic method of questioning all your beliefs/shibboleths. Secondly, it is so context dependent that I think it is hard to universalise it like you can do with other fallacies like false dilemma (everyone is either a tequila or a whisky person, etc.)

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steeznsonreply
lemmy.world

Actually it's quite funny, if you take a broad interpretation of sealioning that does not involve the internet, Ancient Athens sentenced Socrates to death for "sealioning" in 400BC lol.

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