JD Vance’s chances of becoming 2028 Republican nominee are falling, new poll finds
J.D. Vance’s lead in the polls could be collapsing because of his association with Trump, according to an expert
J.D. Vance’s chances of becoming the GOP nominee for president in 2028 have taken a dive, according to a new poll.
The survey looking at potential successors to Donald Trump has seen the vice-president’s lead in a list of theoretical candidates narrow significantly in recent months.
And in the most recent poll in November, the Vance’s margin continued to fall. According to the survey of 439 voters conducted between November 17 and 24, Vance’s lead over Trump Jr had plummeted to just 10 points. The latest results put Vance at 34% and Trump Jr at 24%.
Trump's polling figures have collapsed in recent months, with every major poll giving Trump a negative rating for the first time ever.
Even a Fox News poll suggested that 61% of respondents think that Trump's administration has damaged the economy, with just 3% approving of his economic strategy.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-donald-trump-jr-polls-b2874175.htmlOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
Don Jr. is in second place!? That would be awesome if he got the nomination. He's such a coked up clown, the American public would never vote for... such a... you know what, never mind.
that was the joke
What if we insist that a circus clown on crack can't be president. Like we've already got some coked up clowns, and so long as we find one that only speaks Canadian French and only cares about Quebecois politics it should probably be fine. And I'm sure someone from cirque was born here.
They would.
Second place of the options the polling company suggested in the survey question.
If he wants to ever be president, he needs to either invoke the 25th amendment or get on board with impeachment.
I dreamed that trump was impeached again and this time the Senate voted 50-50. Couch fucker was the tie-breaking vote, and he voted to convict, effectively electing himself president.
It's disheartening that this wasn't a good dream, but it was still too good to realistically hope for.
The House needs over 50% to impeach. The Senate needs 2/3 or 67 vote to convict so there wouldn't be a situation where a tiebreaker comes into play.
It is nice to dream though...
Yeah I’m sure the 67 vote restriction was for this very reason, so the VP couldn’t just elect himself.
Lmao I can't believe I forgot that. Glaring plothole in my dream.
A dream with poor fact checking? I guess otters can’t talk, and don’t all want to be my friend.
Impeachment will never happen. The guy in question is a convicted felon. What is impeachment going to do that it failed to do the other times he's been impeached?
JD Vance will be 10 times worse as president. We need him removed as well.
What! Seriously?
Those are what GOP is currently considering the best 2 options?
USA is a joke, and unfortunately a very bad one.
The last name trump on the ticket will trick a significant number of people into thinking they got their 3rd term wish.
I bet even Hillary could win over one of those two, not that I'm challenging her to try, I hope next if there even is an election, the Democrats will run with someone inspiring and progressive.
But who am I kidding, from the looks of it, the chances of that are near non existent.
Dude is awkward. Like, so fucking awkward that I’d feel bad for him if he wasn’t also a piece of shit. Really thought he was thinking of ditching his wife for Erica Kirk but that would be awful AND stupid.
He will dump his wife and Marry the blond white girl. Maga wont accept his current wife as first lady.
I strongly disagree. They love having someone around that they can point to and say, "see, we’re not racist."
It'd be so much more believable if she didn't get bombarded with racism by their side
I cannot imagine that being seen as the weird puppet of the even weirder puppetmaster Thiel is doing him any favors, either.
I mean, Thiel and his weird associations - the freaks writing The Sovereign Individual, Curtis Yarvin, and Elon himself....blech. I think about the only people getting excited about any of those freaks and their ideas for how WE should live OUR fucking lives would be either the most idiotic of incel morons and centimillionaires and billionaires.
The Democratic Party needs to bring back calling these people weird again. I mean, all the time, too. Orchestrated. Like they started to do for like a minute before someone clearly had them dial it back.
Because these people are fucking weird. Sure, the right tries to constantly cast anyone to the left of Rush Limbaugh as some blue-haired trans person with face piercings and by that coding, way outside the mainstream. But anyone that is a billionaire is by definition someone that is wildly out of step with the everyday person. People like Mikey Johnson that have some weird porn pact with their son are deeply weird. People that follow the likes of Curtis Yarvin telling the elites that we need to get over things like democracy are extremely weird freaks, and people should point and laugh at this kind of thing.
But definitely point it out all the time...don't pretend any of this shit is the least bit respectable.
Calling them weird? No they need to be tried for sedition and racketeering and be fined the sum of their wealth to fix the damage they’ve done to our country.
We still think there's gonna be an election?
My hopes were very low a few months ago, but right now, the tides are turning and I think his time may have come. If the entire party isn't with him in lockstep, his efforts to remain as king will not succeed.
Dictator. FTFW.
Of course there will be a completely free and fair, totally not rigged election, and not a hint of voter suppression. It is America after all. I suspect with the job he's doing there will be about 93% trump voters, give or take a few points, across the board.
oh deer gods it is still 2025
Lol my SO asked me how many years does trump have left?
Haven't been more than 1 yet...
Trump is a cold, gold painted toilet, JD is one of the turds floating in it.
How well is JD Kirk polling?
There is no universe where that guy was going to be Trump's successor. Nobody likes him, he's only there now because Peter Thiel believe he will allow him to replace humanity with robots or something.
He's only there because he's the only guy that WOULD run with him
Not surprising, nobody likes this prick
But his pole is raising for that new line of sofas.
He'll be lucky to get prison time instead of a firing squad.
Lmao how does one fall from starting rock bottom?
Wait his lead over who??? That coke fueled failson is in the running??
Jebus, this is the stupidest country that has ever existed.
He hasn't announced or anything. Neither of them have. The pollsters just provided some hypothetical names to compare; I don't know who other than Vance or Jr, but if I had to guess I'd say probably people like Ron DeSantis, Greg Abbott, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Ted Cruz.
I'm not super familiar with pooling sample sizes. Is 439 a big enough sample to draw conclusions from? Is it a group of people that spreads decently across a specific demographic that historically produces meaningful results?
I have such a hard time understanding political polling. Anyone know of a good way to get up to speed? Doesn't have to be quick
I'm not sure if there's anybody in the Republican Party that is a viable candidate, much less JD Vance. The Republican's message may be populist but their motivations are pure greed and authoritarianism and a lot of red state voters are finally waking up to that fact.
yup, we've been hoping that for 10 years.
It'll be JD Kirk once him and Erika get married and pump out 5 kids.
She’s already 8 weeks pregnant and Charlie was shot 10 weeks ago. 🤔
Edit: fact checked myself and I was taken in by a rumor. There’s no confirmation, although I also can’t find a denial from Erika Kirk or her reps.
Are you for real?
Ok, so I've come to learn that it could be a real person or A1.
He had kirk killed for nothing? oh the shame
It’s only because he’s a spineless tool and nobody likes him. God damn the libs for causing this.
Eric Trump wants to run
Oh great, so we go from methed out old man, to coked out middle aged wannabe redneck.
Any one with eyes knew this in 2024. He was sinking the ticket Dems insisted in sinking further, but that's just history now.
Op: Barron Trump
No shit, pudding-man. You were never even supposed to be VP. You were there to take the blame when he didn't win.
439 voters! Wow! Let's jump to conclusions!
I just gotta aks somethin...
Have you all even said thank you?
I bet the orange cancer PEDOnald is soiling his pre-soiled pants at the mere thought of Vance trying to be next Preznit.
Awe, c'mon. Put a clown who has no chance of winning on the ticket..
I can't even click onto the article. Anyone who puts any stock in polls is living in a fantasy world. The activity is as flawed as the system it is looking to measure. We might as well be asking oracles or soothsayers. If the polls had any credibility we wouldn't be living in the Trump dystopia, several times over.
All models are wrong. Some models are useful.
Well, Vance was right about one thing. And I suspect most of Lemmy agrees, since no one posted about it yesterday, and we’re not supposed to agree with anything fascists say.
He said no one really likes turkey, no one cares about cooking turkey except on Thanksgiving because it’s expected of them. For poultry, chicken is superior.
Couldn’t agree more. I think it’s high time we stop doing things simply because they’re expected, if we don’t actually like them.
My family doesn’t do a whole turkey. We do a turkey breast, but we also do ham and barbecue. People have a choice. The best of the turkey, plus pork. We even had pot roast yesterday, so beef as well.
I saw that clip... Its normal current-level unhinged. In times past, it would have been a black mark and his colleages would use it to mock him for ages, and it would cost him elections... But in [current year] its Tuesday...
Bruh why are you acting like anyone is forcing you to eat anything for Thanksgiving? Eat whatever you want, and we will eat whatever we want, no matter what you and your bud JD think about it.
So let me get this straight — someone has an opinion you disagree with, and you think they're forcing something upon you? Touch grass.
Um, lots of people like turkey and eat it all the time. You don't have to cook an entire turkey just like you don't have to cook a whole cow if you like beef. You can buy small amounts at the store or deli. The reason so many people cook a whole turkey at Thanksgiving is because they are feeding a large group of people. ... I can't believe I'm actually sitting here typing an explanation of this.
i refuse to accept you don't have to BBQ the whole cow
I’m disagreeing because people eat Turkey all of the time. Most people don’t do a whole bird bc it’s too much. But pound for pound, that’s a lot of protein for the price so it’s better than beef, chicken, etc.
Also, someone has to make a whole Turkey so people can put that shit on sandwiches every day.
Also, I just think your disrespect for dark meat is unforgivable.
Yeah, I mean I eat turkey for protein too, but you don't have to cook a whole ass 25 pound bird to eat turkey. You can buy turkey breasts, turkey legs, etc., but mostly people prefer other meats — specifically chicken, as far as fowl goes.
But Vance was saying (and I agree) that people don't cook it as regularly as they do chicken, or burgers, or even, say, pork chops, because they don't love it as much as they pretend to on Thanksgiving. Politics entirely aside, speaking only on the food, I think he's right.
Nope That's not at all what he was saying, you're trying to move the goalposts now. I looked it up and here is the quote of what he said:
So, he asked "Who really likes turkey?" and called everyone who raised their hands "full of shit". He said "every single one of you who raised your hand is lying to me."
He appears to actually believe that because he doesn't like turkey, then no one else likes turkey either and if they say they do, they're lying. How fucked up is that? He also seems to believe that you would have to cook an entire turkey if you want to eat any turkey. It's bizarre and out of touch with how normal people live.
We eat turkey every week. But okay…
No you're both wrong about that
Turkey vs. chicken? Kinda mid, really.
My family is vegetarian, so we definitely know about what "expectations" are when it comes to something like Thanksgiving, LOL.
When it comes to "JD" "Vance"'s observation about turkey vs. chicken (turkey is dry AF and most people tend not to really go for it all that often?), I guess I've heard wags saying that nearly all my life, so kudos for his bravery on that.
I'd be more impressed if I were to see a prominent Republican go vegan or vegetarian and do it openly. I suspect most of them are so locked up in their delusional protein and/or masculinity myths that they'd never do it. They are too afraid of what other men might think of them, or what their base would think of them.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-08-13/vance-vegetarian-politics-red-meat-gop
Ok?