I mean, you're at a party and you get drunk and high and pull dumb stunts with your friends, someone snaps a photo of it. I doubt he actually sucked someone off, but there's definitely a photo of him looking like he did, for comedic effect.
Because, he's a pedophile, he don't do old men and horses, only young children pissing in his mouth.
Hmm yeah I knew that other commenter who insisted everyone was taking it as a joke but pretending it was literal was full of shit... Anyway.
How are you to assess their delivery? You're not (presumably) their friend. The fact that it doesn't come of as humorous to an external reader shouldn't be a surprise - or shall we analyse some of your texts without context :P
Someone else put forward the completely plausible scenario of a photo of Trump in a position where it kind of looks like he's sucking off Clinton, which became an in-joke. Is that so unbelievable to you?
This is a case of those opposed to trump being completely credulous because it suits their beliefs, and noone would be taking it seriously if it were someone more aligned with them - which in that case would be very reasonable.
Nothing useful to say, then. It's not surprising that you're not really able to think critically about what I've said given your inability to think critically about an email.
I agree, I really don't like people saying it was Bill Clinton, there is currently only evidence against that claim. But your second statement seems disingenuous, as there isn't any sign that it was purely a joke, either. A better way to say your second line without showing a bias would be to say that "There is no evidence to show whether or not it was a joke, or to be taken seriously."
To be clear, the quoted response from Mark Epstein about that email was, “For the avoidance of doubt, the reference to ‘Bubba’ in this correspondence is not, in any way, a reference to former President Bill Clinton. Any attempt to conflate that reference with President Clinton, or to read sweeping implications into them, misrepresents both the purpose and the tone of the original correspondence.”
There are a few ways to read this response, one being that it was all a joke, one being that it did happen and Bill Clinton wasn't involved, and Putin doesn't have the picture, and one being that it did happen, Bill Clinton wasn't involved, and Putin does have the pictures. Without further clarification, we don't know for certain which of these is the truth.
I do appreciate your desire to keep the facts straight.I know that it's fun to jump to conclusions and speculate, but we are doing the credibility of anyone left of republicans a disservice when we spread lies. It makes it much easier for the Rupublicans at the top to spin a narritive that their followers can dismiss the things we say. I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but he does enough stuff to paint himself a hypocrite that there's no need to embellish the truth.
I think the evidence against it being intended seriously is that Trump is an apparently straight man. Now, there's a lot of reasons an apparently straight man would suck off a dude, so it's far from impossible, but: the vast majority of apparently straight men are actually straight, and the vast majority of straight men would prefer not to have oral sex with a man, so I think this does count as evidence against it being literally true.
There's a particular online discourse that sees Trump and MAGA as not merely being a bit hypocritical, but as being extremely hypocritical - a strand which believes that every Republican expressing homophobia as being closeted. So I think while people understand on one level that it's not reasonable to think that some random guy who professed to be straight actually sucked off another guy on the basis of an email from someone shady, when the guy is not random but the leader of MAGA, those people instead leap on it because it fits with that hypocrisy narrative.
You're absolutely right that we don't know which of the possibilities is true, but I said what I did because it seems like a lot of people are just taking it at face value, which doesn't seem smart.
Eh, I haven't seen any evidence that Trump is straight. Evidence that he's definitely not gay, sure, but no real evidence of straightness. Sure, he's in a heterosexual marriage, but so is my wife and she's bi, so that's not much to go off of. He seems to pass legislation that harms the wellbeing of lgbtq folks, but it's not uncommon for people in power to show disdain for lgbtq people while being one themselves. It's also not uncommon for folks to experiment with their sexuality in their early adult years, even if he isn't bi, that doesn't take blowing someone completely off the table.
The long and short of it is that I haven't seen anything that would make me think Trump wouldn't have blown some guy. It's not hard to believe that he were willing to blow a guy, especially if it were a one-off thing he was trying in the spur of the moment at an Epstein sex party. It's honestly a toss-up, and to act like it's more or less likely to have gone one way or the other seems foolhardy here.
Also, do you have links to anywhere that Trump has professed to being straight? I couldn't find any personally, but if you have them then that would make it more likely this email was just a joke. But if you don't have them I can't help but feel you are doing the exact thing you claim to be against: spreading misinformation.
It’s honestly making American liberals look as stupid as MAGA/QAnon dipshits. In no kind of reality did Donald Trump blow Bill Clinton and it’s so ridiculous that of all the things in the emails THIS is what the supposedly more sensible and intelligent left has decided to waste its energy on.
When I was broke in my early 20s I could get a grilled stuffed burrito, which was huge, for $2. It was enough food for a whole day to keep from starving.
I'll be that guy, fire sauce isn't that good. If you want heat, diablo has it and still tastes good. If you want flavor, mild is delicious and no shame in preventing heart burn. Honestly fire has to be my least favorite. Also it has chunks of stuff in it, which, while delicious, makes it a pain in the ass to get outta the packet without spurting everywhere.
Going to have to disagree on that one - the Pepper X and Scorpion sauces hit a little bit but Da Bomb completely destroys my tongue, mouth and my bowels.
I mean it sucks that this is an old screenshot to try to generate a narrative, and the narrative is probably still accurate, but GOT DAMN don't make me worry about the 7-layer burrito like that.
Whatever the case, the return of the OG 7-Layer Burrito brought me back to Taco Bell. If it disappears again from my menu in the app then I'll probably stop going to Taco Bell again.
It looks like the 7-Layer Burrito is there because of their "Decades Menu" promotion so it's not looking good...
Those fucking snakes bear a LOT of the responsibility for tearing down the fabric of American democracy, and they should all be hanged, drawn and quartered, shot, and having their mass grave turned into a public urinal that pays you for pissing on their demonic remains.
Edit: Look I'm drunk, I don't mean what I say. But still.
WTF? No, I never want to live in a country where that is done to anyone for any reason.
Dismantle the business, throw the execs in prison for life and seize their funds.
The solution to that is reform of the government, so that a fascist takeover is harder to do, and the head of state doesn't have the power to undermine the Judiciary, not killing and mutilating people.
They don't actually care about how the government is structured. These fascists recently had the top courts declare anything the president does to be immune from prosecution based on literally nothing. If they are dead then they can't participate in a fascist takeover, which improves the chance of reforming the government resisting a future fascist takeover.
Oh was completely being sarcastic.They are a regime propaganda channel which has nothing to do with journalism, reality, facts or news. To me as a European they are a very dark and dystopian comedy channel which is super funny, but at the same time very not funny at all. I just don't get how the people on there are able to sleep at night.
Obviously he used to do a lot of kiddie fiddling and child raping in the past, he was mad for it. But there's no chance that that old, massively obese, fast food addicted, imbecile can get it up anymore.
I've got more chance of seeing Moses than his tiny mushroom rearing it's syphilis addled head.
It seems even worse that the scroll is about George Floyd, and the main story is Taco Bell menu items.
In a statement to Fox News, a spokesperson for Taco Bell simply said, “We are in the process of evolving our menu to simplify operations and make our team member and customer experiences easier. We’ll have more to share with you soon.”
Taco Bell is the master of shrinkflation. Last time I ate there, the 5-layer burritos were missing 2 layers and the remaining ingredients were so microscopically thin I honestly believe an amoeba could safely wade through them without drowning.
Trump definitely built his own Luxe Cravings Box, I'll give him that. He took Bill's Baja Blast. That's why they call him Frank's RedHot® Diablo Crispy Chicken Soft Taco Trump. Nope, one too many.
I've basically only been seeing the "blowing bubba" meme stuff, but I expect that we will at least get more evidence that Trump got handjobs from women that could not legally consent and were coerced into those acts. There's long been testimony to that effect.
I hope it torPEDOes this whole Presidency, but I'm a bit tipsy just now.
To be fair, everybody already knew about Trump being in the Epstein Files. Taco Bell getting rid of the cheesy potatoes would be devastating and is indeed important to know about.
Thats because the screenshot is 5 year old. It's a shame OP did this, because if you check they are not talking about the Epstein stuff at all, while the rest are. It a silly lie that just takes away from taking the post serious at all.
And their source is a "Verified Taco Bell employee" on Reddit??
I mean, can you realistically get a source that is any more legit than that?
I'd trust a Lemmy source more than a reddit source.
But that's just me.
Principle Skinner: "Myes!"
Lmao fox news fake news reddit verified
Doesn’t matter unless they work at HQ in Irvine. Still wouldn’t matter then.
Anyone remember when Wikipedia was the default byword for Unreliable Internet Source? The internet used to be good.
at least they have a source
As much of a clown show Fox News is...this is Photoshopped.
Holy shit. That almost makes me forget that Donald Trump sucked off Bill Clinton.
Edit: Trump is in the Epstein files. The distraction has layers.
Wait.......WHAT?!
I don't want to fact check this. Is this true? Is this what all the memes were about yesterday?!
It was either Clinton or Maxwell's horse.
Lots of people are saying it.
The best people?
Everyone except the deplorables.
There is a line in an email that refers to "trump blowing bubba".
It's not clear who "bubba" is, but it's one of Clinton's nicknames.
More importantly though, it's not clear that the line is intended to be taken seriously. Obviously a lot of people want it to be true though.
I mean, you're at a party and you get drunk and high and pull dumb stunts with your friends, someone snaps a photo of it. I doubt he actually sucked someone off, but there's definitely a photo of him looking like he did, for comedic effect.
Because, he's a pedophile, he don't do old men and horses, only young children pissing in his mouth.
The line is about Putin having pictures of Donnie blowing Bubba which implies Russian blackmail.
Yes, Donnie is Trump and Bubba is Clinton and it is possible that is is just dark humor but if so their delivery sucks.
Hmm yeah I knew that other commenter who insisted everyone was taking it as a joke but pretending it was literal was full of shit... Anyway.
How are you to assess their delivery? You're not (presumably) their friend. The fact that it doesn't come of as humorous to an external reader shouldn't be a surprise - or shall we analyse some of your texts without context :P
Someone else put forward the completely plausible scenario of a photo of Trump in a position where it kind of looks like he's sucking off Clinton, which became an in-joke. Is that so unbelievable to you?
This is a case of those opposed to trump being completely credulous because it suits their beliefs, and noone would be taking it seriously if it were someone more aligned with them - which in that case would be very reasonable.
Settle down, Donnie.
Nothing useful to say, then. It's not surprising that you're not really able to think critically about what I've said given your inability to think critically about an email.
No u
I agree, I really don't like people saying it was Bill Clinton, there is currently only evidence against that claim. But your second statement seems disingenuous, as there isn't any sign that it was purely a joke, either. A better way to say your second line without showing a bias would be to say that "There is no evidence to show whether or not it was a joke, or to be taken seriously."
To be clear, the quoted response from Mark Epstein about that email was, “For the avoidance of doubt, the reference to ‘Bubba’ in this correspondence is not, in any way, a reference to former President Bill Clinton. Any attempt to conflate that reference with President Clinton, or to read sweeping implications into them, misrepresents both the purpose and the tone of the original correspondence.”
There are a few ways to read this response, one being that it was all a joke, one being that it did happen and Bill Clinton wasn't involved, and Putin doesn't have the picture, and one being that it did happen, Bill Clinton wasn't involved, and Putin does have the pictures. Without further clarification, we don't know for certain which of these is the truth.
I do appreciate your desire to keep the facts straight.I know that it's fun to jump to conclusions and speculate, but we are doing the credibility of anyone left of republicans a disservice when we spread lies. It makes it much easier for the Rupublicans at the top to spin a narritive that their followers can dismiss the things we say. I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but he does enough stuff to paint himself a hypocrite that there's no need to embellish the truth.
I think the evidence against it being intended seriously is that Trump is an apparently straight man. Now, there's a lot of reasons an apparently straight man would suck off a dude, so it's far from impossible, but: the vast majority of apparently straight men are actually straight, and the vast majority of straight men would prefer not to have oral sex with a man, so I think this does count as evidence against it being literally true.
There's a particular online discourse that sees Trump and MAGA as not merely being a bit hypocritical, but as being extremely hypocritical - a strand which believes that every Republican expressing homophobia as being closeted. So I think while people understand on one level that it's not reasonable to think that some random guy who professed to be straight actually sucked off another guy on the basis of an email from someone shady, when the guy is not random but the leader of MAGA, those people instead leap on it because it fits with that hypocrisy narrative.
You're absolutely right that we don't know which of the possibilities is true, but I said what I did because it seems like a lot of people are just taking it at face value, which doesn't seem smart.
Eh, I haven't seen any evidence that Trump is straight. Evidence that he's definitely not gay, sure, but no real evidence of straightness. Sure, he's in a heterosexual marriage, but so is my wife and she's bi, so that's not much to go off of. He seems to pass legislation that harms the wellbeing of lgbtq folks, but it's not uncommon for people in power to show disdain for lgbtq people while being one themselves. It's also not uncommon for folks to experiment with their sexuality in their early adult years, even if he isn't bi, that doesn't take blowing someone completely off the table.
The long and short of it is that I haven't seen anything that would make me think Trump wouldn't have blown some guy. It's not hard to believe that he were willing to blow a guy, especially if it were a one-off thing he was trying in the spur of the moment at an Epstein sex party. It's honestly a toss-up, and to act like it's more or less likely to have gone one way or the other seems foolhardy here.
Also, do you have links to anywhere that Trump has professed to being straight? I couldn't find any personally, but if you have them then that would make it more likely this email was just a joke. But if you don't have them I can't help but feel you are doing the exact thing you claim to be against: spreading misinformation.
What a world
It’s honestly making American liberals look as stupid as MAGA/QAnon dipshits. In no kind of reality did Donald Trump blow Bill Clinton and it’s so ridiculous that of all the things in the emails THIS is what the supposedly more sensible and intelligent left has decided to waste its energy on.
Difference is we all know that, but we're running with it FOX style, to make a fucking point.
Very much unconvinced that all of you are in on that joke!
Then you probably lack social skills and education.
Neither of which I will be receiving from you, evidently
Conservative dipshits do not understand “points” and fascists are just happy you’re making memes instead of throwing punches.
Conservative dipshits don’t understand anything and there’s no fancy way of phrasing your point or argument that’s gonna penetrate those thick skulls.
They’re adept at doing mental gymnastics and will keep doing backflips over the topic.
Might as well have some fun.
Yeah, we're dancing while Nero plays the fiddle while he burns Rome
Right.
I’m fuzzy on my history- remind me again how much “fun” it took to put Hitler and his cronies in the ground? Can’t recall.
Who the fuck you think you talking to about not throwing punches?
I remember you from before. You continue to earn the tag I gave you. BoTh SiDeS and all tho
I have him tagged as well and the tag still holds true.
Not sure what “both sides” you’re talking about here
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/epstein-bubba-trump-blowing/
Thats a slim and trim article there. You'd have to think they'd at least put the email info in from the dump.
Edit: I a whole word
Trump sucking off Bill Clinton almost makes me forget, that he's in the Epstein files. The distraction has layers.
New fetish unlocked
If that's the case, wow. That's an elegant strategy. I'll add it to my comment.
This is an old screenshot. The Quesarito, God rest its soul, has been gone for a while. And the scroll at the bottom is talking about George Floyd.
What’s wrong with you?! Taco Bell is more newsworthy! Get your priorities straight. /s
only thing news worthy about taco bell is how fucking pants on head their prices have become.
used to get a whole quesadilla combo for what they now want for a basic quesadilla stand alone.
When I was broke in my early 20s I could get a grilled stuffed burrito, which was huge, for $2. It was enough food for a whole day to keep from starving.
I remember the bean burrito was like 99 cents. and stuffed so full of beans and rice that you'd make two meals out of it.
i also miss their 5 dollar lunch boxes.. cause it had that bean burrito in it and you'd save that for dinner and have two awesome meals.
Yeah but the steak breakfast Crunchwrap (with extra creamy jalapeño sauce) is still the best fast food drivethru breakfast I’ve found.
😭 NOT THE 7-LAYER BURRITO!!!
Who cares about politics. This is what riots are made for!
Party like it's 1789!!
I've heard of a taco... Made entirely out of burritos.
All potato items 💔
Isn't "the 7-layer burrito" that thing that Trump is rumored to have done with Clinton?
Either Clinton or Maxwell's horse.
That was the embutido locos, a menu item they no longer carry
Because "you mean the corrupt criminal traitor rapist?" didn't quite hit enough
The people we have to affect aren't troubled by underaged rape or treason. Only homophobia. Pick the knife for the fight.
I know people who still say "both sides are the same"...it's almost 2026, get me off the planet
I'm surprised Taco Bell hasn't been deported yet.
Well it isn't Mexican.
Technically, but does it matter to them? Nationality hasn't stopped from trying to deport people.
Happened more than once
Didn't they just "deport" a purple hearted veteran to Mexico?
Yes.
Do they make money for the 1% somehow? Yes? Then they're obviously fine, moral, upstanding American citizens, like all corporations are.
More of the same from the delusion network.
You’re never going to see a guest on there acknowledging Fire sauce is objectively better than Diablo.
Diablo just tastes bad
If it was meant to taste good they'd have called it DeuSauce
I'll be that guy, fire sauce isn't that good. If you want heat, diablo has it and still tastes good. If you want flavor, mild is delicious and no shame in preventing heart burn. Honestly fire has to be my least favorite. Also it has chunks of stuff in it, which, while delicious, makes it a pain in the ass to get outta the packet without spurting everywhere.
Oh nooooo! I fucking LOVE Diablo on the Crunchwrap Supreme! The mixture with the melty cheese and sour cream is next level.
That being said, I do prefer Fire for regular crunchy tacos, soft tacos, and Doritos Los Tacos.
Crunchwrap Supreme is GOAT though, so Diablo is my most requested sauce.
A person of culture, I see.
I mean, clearly! You know you're peak 'Murican culture when you know the best Taco Bell sauce and item menu pairings, lmao
Fire is superior for sure. Diablo is nasty and only for people who want to flex.
Nobody is flexing anything with a common fast-food brand hot sauce.
Bring back Volcano sauce! That shit was way better.
It’s like Da Bomb sauce on Hot Ones, it’s not even good they just try to make it burn except it’s not hot either
Going to have to disagree on that one - the Pepper X and Scorpion sauces hit a little bit but Da Bomb completely destroys my tongue, mouth and my bowels.
I should clarify..Diablo is trying to do the same all heat no flavor but is not actually that spicy, and tastes bad to boot.
I mean it sucks that this is an old screenshot to try to generate a narrative, and the narrative is probably still accurate, but GOT DAMN don't make me worry about the 7-layer burrito like that.
The 7-Layer burrito has been gone for a long time :( From my search-foo, it was September 11, 2020 when it was removed. (And that was my favorite)
The 5-layer is still there though...
Maybe I'm lucky? Here's the Taco Bell app from 30 seconds ago:
It is listed under "Member Exclusives" in the menu and not under burritos for some reason.
I'm kind of a big deal so maybe they just make them special for me [checks manicure].
Update for posterity - 2025/12/09
Aaaand... it's gone. I can no longer order a 7-Layer Burrito. Fuck you Taco Bell.
You are allowed to order some removed items but only if you have a taco bell account and only if you order online or through the app.
Whatever the case, the return of the OG 7-Layer Burrito brought me back to Taco Bell. If it disappears again from my menu in the app then I'll probably stop going to Taco Bell again.
It looks like the 7-Layer Burrito is there because of their "Decades Menu" promotion so it's not looking good...
Hold on, downloading the taco bell app despite knowing better
My brain read FOX NEWS BREAKING APART! and I got excited for a moment.
Those fucking snakes bear a LOT of the responsibility for tearing down the fabric of American democracy, and they should all be hanged, drawn and quartered, shot, and having their mass grave turned into a public urinal that pays you for pissing on their demonic remains.
Edit: Look I'm drunk, I don't mean what I say. But still.
WTF? No, I never want to live in a country where that is done to anyone for any reason.
Dismantle the business, throw the execs in prison for life and seize their funds.
If they are in prison the next fascist can just pardon them like Trump has done for all of the Jan 6th rioters plus everyone else he has pardoned.
The solution to that is reform of the government, so that a fascist takeover is harder to do, and the head of state doesn't have the power to undermine the Judiciary, not killing and mutilating people.
They don't actually care about how the government is structured. These fascists recently had the top courts declare anything the president does to be immune from prosecution based on literally nothing. If they are dead then they can't participate in a fascist takeover, which improves the chance of reforming the government resisting a future fascist takeover.
Counter-point: When the state kills and mutilates people, making a spectacle out of it, democracy is already dead.
Yes, mutilation is going to far.
They need to die though.
Source: some guy on reddit. Wow, great journalism guys.
I wouldn't quite call what they do journalism.
Oh was completely being sarcastic.They are a regime propaganda channel which has nothing to do with journalism, reality, facts or news. To me as a European they are a very dark and dystopian comedy channel which is super funny, but at the same time very not funny at all. I just don't get how the people on there are able to sleep at night.
I get the theme of all the flatiron "grilled" items being removed, but tf is with the nachos?
Also, Trump rapes children.
But I hear he gives great head.
He does not rape children...
Obviously he used to do a lot of kiddie fiddling and child raping in the past, he was mad for it. But there's no chance that that old, massively obese, fast food addicted, imbecile can get it up anymore.
I've got more chance of seeing Moses than his tiny mushroom rearing it's syphilis addled head.
At first I thought you meant seeing Moses naked and hard, but you meant just in general I think.
It seems even worse that the scroll is about George Floyd, and the main story is Taco Bell menu items.
Hard hitting journalism right there.
"Guys what do our viewers like, we have to distract from the Clinton blowjob. And all the brown people being kidnapped." "....Mexican food?"
This is attention capture tactics.
Get all eyes on taco bell menu, so we forget what really matters....
....what happened to the "yo quiero taco bell" dog?
Considering how long ago that ad campaign ran, he's dead.
Sad, but true.
He was disappeared from an ICE detention center.
Taco Bell is the master of shrinkflation. Last time I ate there, the 5-layer burritos were missing 2 layers and the remaining ingredients were so microscopically thin I honestly believe an amoeba could safely wade through them without drowning.
FR nobody should be paying $15 for two child size chalupa tacos and a baja blast.
But CNN, ABC and CBS are all Trump controlled now. Maybe NBC isn’t, yet?
They are all corporate media, just Fox is more blatant for its special interests.
All potato items?
Because potatos are too pricey?
ALL POTATO ITEMS?!
The fucking french fries and cheesy potatoes are literally the best things they have! 😩
I just ate two Diablo crispy chicken burritos and my ass is on fire
You should call into Fox News and tell them exactly that, since this is what they deem newsworthy 😆
I cannot BELIEVE taco bell ever even had a tostada and now im missing it entirely
They brought it back a few months ago. It’s fantastic
Taco Bell is so fucking shit.
It's the worst takeaway I've ever had.
Taco Bell is kinda its own genre of food. I've never wanted Mexican food and decided "close enough" with Taco Bell.
But I've absolutely bought Taco Bell because I was in the mood for Taco Bell.
The trick is to be wasted. It's absolutely amazing when you're pissed out of your gourd.
RIPower to the 7 Layer Burrito.
Trump definitely built his own Luxe Cravings Box, I'll give him that. He took Bill's Baja Blast. That's why they call him Frank's RedHot® Diablo Crispy Chicken Soft Taco Trump. Nope, one too many.
They already knew. Bet their ceo is even on the list
I love that the fox example is probably the very bottom of the "not even remotely related to news, yet true" barrel.
Aw. Quesaritos are my favorite thing. I might never eat at a Taco Bell again.
I legit only order the spicy potato soft tacos there. I mean, it's not national news though
So like, we're going to keep seeing damning emails for a few days and get a list this week right?
I've basically only been seeing the "blowing bubba" meme stuff, but I expect that we will at least get more evidence that Trump got handjobs from women that could not legally consent and were coerced into those acts. There's long been testimony to that effect.
I hope it torPEDOes this whole Presidency, but I'm a bit tipsy just now.
Now that is hard hitting journalism!
Finally they got rid of those woke potatoes.
Wrf? I love my potato soft tacos!
This is an old screenshot from the George Floyd murder. I just got their potato tacos last week too.
True. Fox News has been the GOP propaganda channel for over 20 years....
To be fair, everybody already knew about Trump being in the Epstein Files. Taco Bell getting rid of the cheesy potatoes would be devastating and is indeed important to know about.
Not the 7-layer burrito! Omg!
Are they seriously broadcasting George Floyd talking points? How long has it been, five years?
Thats because the screenshot is 5 year old. It's a shame OP did this, because if you check they are not talking about the Epstein stuff at all, while the rest are. It a silly lie that just takes away from taking the post serious at all.