Elon Musk Announces Plan to Control Climate by Surrounding Earth in Adjustable Satellites
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He needs to hurry up and od on ketamine before he figures out to upload his consciousness into neuralink and we end up in Altered Carbon.
It takes a lot of k to od. Cant we get him addicted to fent or something quicker?
Just keep him in the hot tub. Let nature take its course.
The truth is, the tub was rigged from the start
Long term/chronic use can also lead to serious life threatening complications.
cocaine is probably easier to acquire for him.
Literally all we gotta do is cyber bully him harder collectively. He sleeps next to a pistol and has a known substance abuse issue which clouds his perception. One good K-hole and we can call it
Lead poisoning should do it, at high velocity.
If he uploads his consciousness I'm going to download a copy of it, mod it into the Sims, and torture it on loop.
Related story of the horrors of uploading yourself 🤭
https://qntm.org/mmacevedo
cocaine is most likely to OD you than KETAMINE.
Will just say it is really fucking hard to od on cocaine and it is one of the scariest feelings you can experience. Well unless you have a death wish
not if you combine it with multiple drugs. which ketamine-musk is likely doing.
Can people stop listening to this lying robot dicked fuck?
Emphasis on "tiny" adjustments, per the article. I don't think Elmo comprehends just how much surface area is going to be required to make any measurable let alone meaningful impact, nor the cost of hefting all of that mass up there and keeping it there.
This whole crackhead idea is completely infeasible. But he probably hopes it'll help him scam the government out of a bunch of money trying (and failing), while wasting vast amounts of rocket fuel.
Usually when people talk about this kind of thing, they suggest making a sun shade and delivering it to the Lagrange point between the earth and sun. It certainly feels more reasonable to do it that way. But I wonder which method really is more feasible. (Obviously both methods aren't realistic right now)
Well, two things about that.
One, the L1 Lagrange point between the Earth and Sun is further out than the orbit of the moon. Even without doing any math, just a cursory observation of how shadows work will illustrate that, given that the moon itself can just barely cover the disc of the sun from where it is, any such object placed there would need to have a diameter larger than that of the moon in order to completely block the sun's light. Or some appreciable and nontrivial fraction of the diameter of the moon if you only want to block part of the sun's light. Lofting something that massive up there and more importantly keeping it there given that it'd also be well within the gravitational influence of the moon would be quite the challenge. ("Quite the challenge," by the way, is rocket scientist talk for, "This is complete science fiction, and whoever suggested it is insane.")
Point two is that the Deep Space Climate Observatory is currently already parked there.
You wouldn't be blocking all of the suns light. That'd kill us. Blocking 2% would be a noticeable "fix". It's been a thought out on paper project for decades. It's "possible" in the strictest sense, but would take something (or many smaller somethings) the size of most of South America to do. It would take thousands of launches to a destination around 800,000 miles away, and then it would also all have to be able to adjust for orbital changes because the lagrange point isn't a stable orbit.
We just need another massive once a millennium volcano eruption. Throw the world into chaos and starve half the population to death while the earth is half covered in atmospheric ash for a year. The slow Thanos snap.
That's totally true, but to be fair, it's still more stable and requires less maneuvering than low earth orbit. So if we're comparing the two orbits...
I gotta be honest, that sounds like a less-than-optimal solution. But I like that you're thinking outside the box!
Lol. Thanks.
Low earth orbit is consistently unsstable but the drag and gravity is pretty consistent so you're guaranteed to have to consistently adjust away from earth and speed up, or go the starlink route and just plan on launching a satellite replacement every 5 years(they do still have thrusters and adjust to stay in the right areas for their lifespan).
The lagrange point actually has a wobble to it. Due to solar radiation and gravity from other planets as they move around, so that sweet little perfect spot of neutral gravity moves around in distance between the sun and the earth all the time.
We'd probably have an easier time covering like 5% of our planet in mirrors spread out all over the place. That would cool the planet down by about 2c. Good luck keeping them all clean.
Well that's kind of my point, that's still a lot smaller than what Elon is suggesting. Elon suggested a sphere with a diameter larger than the earth, if the alternative is a disk larger than the moon, well that actually seems like a much better deal. Also, assuming a disk and a sphere have an equal diameter, the sphere has 4 times the surface area, so that's not a trivial difference.
That's interesting. Yeah that could be a challenge. Given the size of the thing, it seems like the obvious thing would be to utilize solar wind for maneuvering, as it's already essentially a solar sail.
The Japanese space agency tested a solar sail in orbit with a novel steering system, rather than changing shape, it used something much like LCD cells to shutter individual quadrants of the sail. Something like that could potentially work.
Yeah, that's a good point. Although if you were actually building something this big out there, you would probably build in some capacity for probes to dock to it. This is a huge installation after all, a facility more than a probe. Or just add on a module that duplicates the capabilities of the deep space climate observatory. I mean once you're constructing something this massive, that additional cost has gotta be a drop in the bucket, right?
We already have the answer of how to deal with this:
We can and have shut this thing down when the political will is available. The efficiencies developed in agriculture and manufacturing have shown that the vast majority of economic activity is effectively idle, not necessary, and purely for the purpose of creating the impression of larger economies than are actually present.
No one starved due to lock-downs. No governments collapsed. Netflix views increased. People took on hobbies and got more exercise.
We have an exact template of what we would need to do to save our climate future.
All that we lack is the political will. And no, geoengineering solutions to prop up and support a broken approach to economics isn't a solution.
While I agree that we have the technology to wildly decreas emissions by just cutting down on inefficient production, I do want to point out people did infact starve due to covid/lockdowns. Many lost jobs, big corps took the opportunity to run mom and pop shops out of buissness, prices skyrocketed. My family wen't from scrapping by to relying on food drives
It cost governments around the world trillions of dollars to get through COVID... The uk's debt went from 80% of GDP to 100% in the space of just 18 months. It's hardly a viable economic plan to carry out on an ongoing basis.
Many non essential industries and travel just completely froze And guess what? Co2 production barely even stuttered according to your graph.
The solution is to transition into a renewable, prosperous, circular economy. Not go backwards into poverty.
Not true, the pandemic caused major inflation, doing the same for a prolonged period of time would be devastating.
But there are ways we can cut CO2 without increasing inflation. Like make the use of private jets illegal.
USA could cut their CO2 in half by following the model Denmark has developed since the 70's.
Denmark has higher industrial and agricultural production than USA, and has more data centers per capita than USA, yet we only release half the CO2 per capita. And that's without using nuclear!
next pandemic when?
Why?
Kessler syndrome
That doesn't really happen at very low orbit, where Starlink is.
Simpsons did it.
Elon literally wants to be Monty Burns over here...
"Guy who sells rockets proposes launching a million satellites"
He's a grifting idiot. He cant even get self driving cars working. Until he finishes that work he should sit in the corner with a dunce hat on and leave the talking to people who arent failures.
Lol self-driving cars? Tesla is still struggling with designing a door that doesn't result in people frequently burning to death when their Tesla spontaneously combusts, when this wasn't even a problem for most vehicles.
agreed. People like to paint Musk as a technical genius but he's really just a half assed product guy. Asking twitter devs to print out all their work showed pretty well that he has no idea how software works.
He's cooked, pack it in. If we're lucky he'll fall in love with an AI pigeon and live out the rest of his days in squalor, which is the only part of Nicola Tesla's legacy he deserves.
He's fucking Grok, isn't he?
Yes he is and if he isn't I don't care I now deem it to be the truth that he is.
That's amount of respect to reality that he deserves.
If he isn't yet, he's actively trying to figure out how.
Hey hey hey. Elon. 1-2-3-eyes on me. Ok? Listen little man. You have to put away all the toys you already got out before you start getting any more toys out. You made a big mess out there in low Earth orbit already, you need to help clean it up before you start any more games. Got-it got-it?
Yes, I know you don't want to, but sometimes we have to do things we don't want to. Yes, even if you took all of the play money for yourself.
Yes, I know your daddy owned an emerald mine. That doesn't mean you don't have a responsibility to help keep this whole place usable.
Also, while you're doing your cleanup, there's still a hole you dug in Las Vegas that you forgot about, and you also need to apologize to the rest of the class for breaking the government services they all enjoyed, and help everyone put them back together.
I know it's not going to be easy to fix them. That's why we don't break things, right? That's right. Especially when....? When we don't know what they're for, right. But you can do hard things, especially if you have help.
I know you fed it into a wood chipper, Elon. We all watched you do it. No, I don't think it's funny or epic.
Ok. Well if you aren't going to help clean up, I think we might need to have a consequence, ok? ...no, the consequence can not be going to Mars.
I appreciate the sentiment, and that was very eloquent, but this fucking criminal shouldn't be treated like an errant child. He's an adult and should face the full force of justice as a cognisant adult that has repeatedly and unrepentantly committed heinous crimes. Fuck him.
Yes. Joking aside, he absolutely should be punished. But fascism wilts in the face of ridicule; the one thing they cannot abide is people not taking them seriously. The only time the Harris campaign ever made any headway was when Walz was calling the GOP "weird," and the repeated attacks & threats against late night show hosts prove that they just can't handle it.
In this case, I got the idea (and even some of the language) from a video content creator who goes by "mrs.frazzled." Her stuff points out how profoundly unserious these people are, even though their actions have serious consequences and they desperately need to feel important.
I know I'm not exactly writing Uncle Tom's Cabin here, and I wouldn't claim that this is some meaningful resistance. Just wanted to explain.
Fair point, and I said something similar about using mockery against them not all that long ago, but that's only useful when they actually see or hear it, and that's unlikely for a random post on lemmy. I recommend joining Truth Social and posting it there. (I don't actually recommend joining Truth Social - I'm not a monster)
Anyway, carry on.
Heh, yeah, I'm fresh out of hazmat suits, so I'm going to stay away from that particular site.
Yeah, I know it's never going to be something that Musk sees (even though he's weirdly, like, the most chronically-online billionaire ever). But maybe normalizing it here means that more people will do it in places where he can see it? I dunno.
He will have a lot of time on earth to clean thanks to the kessler syndrome he would create.
Now he's getting ideas from Monty Burns.
Someone tell him how plants get energy to stay alive.
That's not how weather works you moron.
More interestingly, if he truly announced that idea, he'd have to be admitting climate change is real in the first place.
He already has? Y'all seem to have forgotten he started as a liberal darling.
Technically, physics does allow a satellite-based method to deal with climate change. Economics, on the other hand, does not. You would need to chuck an unfathomable amount of mass into orbit.
Yeah, that's why. He must have some weird misunderstanding to think it's actually doable.
Do you though? I mean, a satellite orbiting the sun between the earth and the sun could cast a large shadow, right?
Not really. Case in point - the Moon. It's absolutely massive, like several orders of magnitude larger than any satellite we've ever launched, and when it happens to line up just right between the Earth and the Sun, the umbra is only like 150km wide.
If the sun was a point light source that is accurate. It is not though. You would need an absolutely enormous sat to cast a shadow that would actually affect our weather. Plus you would also need a way to keep it in position as the solar radiation would push it out of position quickly.
That's... Not how shadows work... Or orbital mechanics... Or economics...
His suggestion, impossible as it is at the current stage of human development, is slightly less impossible than this.
psst.. "climate"... and pray tell, which energy source do you think powers the atmosphere to exhibit weather or climate?
Geothermal? Tidal? Nuclear isotope decay in the core?
All of the above Pat.
Take away the Sun. You think what's left is gonna drive any weather of any kind? With that liquid oxygen sea on the surface...
Also, the sun.
Yes, why not let an emotionally fragile, egotistical maniac control the weather? What a good idea.
It really is every accusation is rooted in some desire to actually be doing the thing: Fema camps, weather control, space lasers. These fuckers want all the stupid shit they dream up to be afraid of.
Didn't Simpsons do this? Feel like they already did this......
I will say it again:
Musk is not an engineer. E.g. he has not played Kerbel Space Program.
He demonstrably does not understand the tyranny of the rocket equation, and how obscenely uneconomical getting anything to, and doing anything in, space is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsiolkovsky_rocket_equation
Geoengineering is something worth seriously discussing (and TBH I hope he draws attention to it), and "solar shades" are theoretically neat, but this is not the way. Not with the trajectory of launch tech we have.
But he could get so much richer if he had a government contract to launch 100 trillion sun shade satellites.
Right!? Why is this even a discussion!? We have a chance to make sure the world’s first trillionaire is an (naturalized) American! You legitimately cannot put a price on that! /s
"Kerbal"
I hate this accusation. It is demonstrably false and reeks of a “No True Scotsman” fallacy. He knows a lot more about rockets than you… or at least he did during the Falcon 9 days. Watch any technical interview with him from ~5 years ago and he can very clearly explain why they made the engineering decisions they did.
That being said, his involvement in the development has obviously stopped because he can barely put together a coherent sentence about Starship these days.
Just because he’s the most dangerous fascist on the planet right now doesn’t automatically mean he’s never been an engineer.
If you said this a decade ago, sure. But at this point there have been so many examples of musk misunderstanding fundamental concepts in areas that he likes to pretend to be an expert on that he doesn't get benefit of the doubt. The dude is only good at being rich and bullying people. He has no engineering acumen, be it software, vehicles, or spacecraft.
He's good at repeating things that smart people have told him, but as soon as he is asked to think rather than simply regurgitate, he's useless.
I think that’s essentially the same thing I said, just a slightly different timeline. You can see the man’s understanding of rockets deteriorating over the years just by comparing the technical interviews he’s done against each other.
We have overwhelming evidence of this documented on YouTube for everyone to see.
I've heard that real software engineers had to re-write or fix all of his code even back when he was working on paypal.
Eh, maybe that's fair. Especially this:
Maybe he was quite knowledgeable... On the other hand, I thought his old 'Mars Colonization' talk was bonkers too. I can't remember what year it started, but it sounded like he had little understanding of the impracticality.
being able to regurgitate and discuss the basic points of a design does not mean that you have a good understanding of everything behind it
He still is involved with engineering things, people just want to think he's not so they can think less of him.
E.g with Starship it was his decision (that he had to convince everyone on) to use stainless steel for Starship. If I recall correctly, his current focus is on the raptor engine.
So far SS seems to have been working well for them, with the ship surviving some brutal re-entries even with missing heat shield tiles.
This is the progress they're making on Raptor. And for anyone that doesn't know, Raptor are the first Full-Flow Staged Combustion Cycle (FFSCC) engines ever flown. A lot of the reductions you're seeing between the engines is from moving to 3D printing all those channels within the tubes.
Sorry, but no.
You’ve already won Elon. You’re a trillionaire. You don’t need to find new ways to rape the planet and its inhabitants. Please just fuck off and leave the rest of us to die in peace.
He's not a trillionare.
fine, HALF a trillionaire. As if it even matters. Past a certain point (and we are well past it) the number is meaningless, it's not tangible to any real world use case. It may as well be a googol, who cares? Money is fake, we made it up.
This dude is like some drugged out crazy guy ranting on a street corner.
Just some drugged out crazy guy manipulating entire governments to his increasingly unhinged whims.
TL;DR: viable last-ditch option would resemble Highlander 2 in terms of putting one corporation in charge of "protecting" the planet.
Okay, so I was keeping the idea of using deliberate "global dimming" in my back-pocket just so it wouldn't worm it's way through the zeitgeist. It's a viable last-ditch option, but it comes with steep drawbacks. But since we're here now, fuck it.
We already know that, thanks to requiring shipping vessels to use low-sulfur fuel, cloud seeding can actually reduce solar gain. The problem is that it also blocks out a lot of the light needed for photosynthesis. So this approach punches down on the environment in a completely different way. As for people, while global warming will absolutely impact agriculture, so would less sunlight.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-low-sulphur-shipping-rules-are-affecting-global-warming/
So we could just use airplanes and cloud-seeding. Or we could increase particulates in the atmosphere. Or, as Elon suggests, fly satellites to do the job. The tradeoffs here are awful: disrupt where rain happens, raise lung cancer risks globally, or catapult one man into multi-trilliionaire status while they charge every government on earth for the privilege. Plus, each of those options are more or less forever if we never get around to carbon sequestration that actually works.
We should seriously considering doing anything else first.
Edit: I know I didn't invent this idea. Rather, I just didn't want to add to any consensus around it.
Obligatory reminder that the easiest by far way of sequestering carbon is to simply not extract it from the ground in the first place.
This is it. Active sequestration is at best a small part of the solution, at worst a dangerous tangent that will grab investments and energy that should go to reduction, restoration and preservation efforts.
That's such an unhelpful statement. Idk what made you think it's obligatory. Everyone is talking about ACTIVE SEQUESTRATION. Further extraction of more carbon from current natural sequestration is undoing what already has been done. We need to create ways to artificially sequester the carbon while ALSO limiting emissions.
I think there's more than 40% of the people on earth, at least in most major western country, that need to hear that statement. How about you calm down when talking to people trying to help.
Trees sequester carbon. Trees work.
I got curious and will attempt some math and duckduckgoing.
A forest can remove between 4.5 and 40.7 tons of Carbon Dioxide per year per hectare during the first 20 years of tree growth. Sauce
Humanity is currently generating around 40 billion tons of CO2 per year. Sauce
So now some simple math: it would take between 1 billion and 10 billion hectares of forests, depending on their maturity, to keep up. 100 hectare = 1 km^2^ sauce, so this means 10 to 100 million km^2^ of forests.
Earth's total surface area is 510 million km^2^. sauce.
Of that, here's a quick breakdown:
Sauce
So 10ish percent of the 510 million km^2^ of land on earth, or around 5.1 million km^2^ is a good candidate for tree planting. That's not enough if we want to sequester all the carbon produced by humanity. Without getting to net zero global warming will continue. The best we can do is slow it down. More disconcertingly, our appetite for energy is only increasing. The good news is that we're really starting to see large scale wind and farm operations ramping up, but there are still a lot of power plants scheduled to come online in the next two decades.
yeah, sure, but have any of the other carbon sequestration technologies proven more efficient while being equally scalable?
Technologies? No. But the oceans are 42x better at sequestering carbon than the surface, and there are some pretty interesting ideas around promoting phytoplankton blooms and kicking the ocean currents up, that sort of thing.
But trees are rad. We should absolutely have more of them. Besides, they're proven, as you noted.
But really, humans have to stop emitting as much CO2eq. That's it. There is no magic sciencey solution.
For a starts, we need to shut down all coal mines and power factories, stop oil, reduce animal exploitation as much as possible, stop fast fashion and reduce AI to scientific uses.
Nothing here is new or controversial, it's just a bit boring, difficult, and goes against massive entrenched interests. That's the hard part.
But any approach that is banking on technological breakthroughs maybe helping us capture all the CO2 (and methane, and nitrous oxide, and…) is inane.
I think there's argument about whether or not even that's enough.
Yes, that's the minimum :)
Once more for the people in the back:
=>AI only for science.<=
Slop isn’t adding ANY value to life on earth.
Get rid of it.
AI is not all GenAI and LLMs, I hope you know.
Oh, I wasn't trying to say trees can't help. I was only saying that we also need to go on a massive carbon diet.
Do you guys remember how clean the sky looked when we were all in lock down? 'Cause I do.
Then everyone started driving again.
That was the best, even though you could still look up on a clear night and count 40 satellites shooting across the sky in an hour but not seeing the aircraft was sweet
Even if it weren't fuck nuts suggesting it, this is surely a bad idea. We need direct sunlight to hit the earth. The problem is the dissipation of the heat generated by that light due to greenhouse gas saturation. Blocking the sunlight in the first place WILL cool the Earth, but with the cost of decreased capacity for plant and algae life to carry out photosynthesis and, thus, remove carbon dioxide from the air and produce oxygen at a minimum. Seems like that would contribute to the greenhouse gas problem, rather than address it, with the additional consequence of reduced yield for crops. I'm sure there would be other consequences too. They have the potential of being MASSIVE!
Evokes the memory of Mao's Four Pests campaign though blocking the Sun will have an obviously broader ecological impact.
Stuff you should know listener?
Yeah the guy has just listened to Clarke/Baxter's Sunstorm on audiobook and "had a great idea", I reckon.
Fuck off Elon. Nobody likes you.
Don't say that.
People constantly telling him that nobody likes him is how we got this megalomanic asshole in the first place. Like before he stole the idea for PayPal and was just getting in random fist fights with his brother, everybody seemed to hate him.
So like, it's true, but Jesus keep it down. He's probably got a ghost profile on Lemmy and uses it to virtually suck his own dick because it can't be done physically anymore.
I find it unlikely, but it would be funny if he was on lemmy. I haven't seen a single positive thing said about him here.
Is this before or after the teslas can drive themselves? /s
Sounds like a great idea. Much easier to block the ends and trap them all in there.
And HYPERLOOP
Can we not indulge into the fantasy of a wanna be super villain?
Actually, I'm just here to ridicule it
I'm here to turn a cart around in a narrow hallway
Dude sucks for sure, but real talk: I think when the seas rise and the food gets scarce and there's no way we can avoid doing something, the powers that be will resort to some kind of geo-engineering BS. It'll be a coin flip if that kills all of us
Yes, but there are far easier and cheaper ways to go. Dude must have just read about using things from space to control sunlight input and thought he's such a genius surely he can figure it out. I guess he skipped over all the debunking that such ideas get.
And crucially, once we jump on the geoengineering train, we better not stop. It will only slow things and buy more time, but if we stop after beginning, the spike will be catastrophic (probably, there's still so much we learn, but it won't be a solution). But we will go that route, because economic health is far more important than anything else, and never plateaus by its very nature. There must be growth, or it all crashes down.
Stop polluting and plant trees.
Rocketing giant mirrors is not only stupid but also temporary.
You are not wrong, though everything is temporary. That is not a reason to not try and develop new technologies and methods to solve problems.
The error is in the focus; we have some tested and tried methods we should apply before we work on the far future stuff, indeed.
There was never any need for any rocket science. Stop Oil, move to renewables, go vegetarianish. We have all of that now. We’ve had most of it for decades.
By that logic there is pretty much no need for anything in modern society. Heck, no need for humans to exist at all. Yet here we are, innovation is in our DNA. Better to be real about it.
That’s your logic? Goddamn.
First of all, define “being”.
Then define “real”.
And lastly, define “it”.
It seems like you might have skipped a few steps.
And there is your problem. You just want to argue. In that, I am not interested. Have a nice one!
Fair enough then, enjoy.
Yeah but can we not give the control of the entire planet's climate to Elon Musk's AI?
Yeah. Talking about geoengineering is great.
Dude couldn't even build a tunnel
I wish I had a really cool tunnel.
Maybe leading to some kind of grotto.
Where’s Marjorie?? THERE HE HIS MARGE THE WEATHER CONTROLLER
We are going to build a wall around earth and make the aliens pay for it
We're still paying attention to what this moron says?
The less attention we give him, the more insane his statements become like Kanye, or my 5 year old.
This is all pure bullshit, inspired by his fear that his failure to get anywhere near his Artemis mission goals would result in him getting his NASA public money tit turned off.
"I'll just come up with some bullshit off the top of my head saying I am going to do something with satellites - it doesn't matter that it isn't possible - and the American public will lap it up like the mugs they are. They will insist on giving me billions via NASA."
Trump appointed Musk's crony as head of NASA so the grift will continue. Musk and China applaud. It will result in China winning the new space race, and is another nail in the coffin of the dollar as global reserve currency. Billionaire grifters will get rich over this period, while the average American will get poor.
Simpsons did it: https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Sun_Blocker
Didn't they just make this illegal in Florida
He also said he'd have people on mars by 2024...
He said Starship would go to orbit by 2019.
I don’t even remember what year he first promised Full Self driving for.
All of their half-assed promised are listed here:
https://elonmusk.today/
Wait!? The Democrats already have weather control technology!? /S
Alternative title: Ultra rich billionaire makes another idiotic suggestion
No, it will totally come. Right after his mars colony, self driving cars, hyper loop and robots. He could switch his drugs to crack to get even more done! /s
But this is a bad idea that shouldn't happen
No, she's on a revenge kick because the rest of the neo nazis club she works for told her she's not allowed to run for Senate.
She's basically throwing a tantrum by being as "bad" as she can imagine, which ironically means doing her job to help the people she represents, but don't mistake it or empathy, she's just checking boxes
Not really, she's just trying to capture maga cult members who are going a stray. She's still a racist piece of garbage no matter who she picks a fight with.
Futurama did it first.
"uhhh your country didn't vote the way i wanted. fuck your crops!" starts scorching summer
Can we just launch elon into orbit? Preferably from a cannon.
Even though, knowing how physics works, putting anything in orbit with only a cannon is not possible, no matter how powerful it is, I wholeheartedly agree we should try it with Elon anyway.
You and I know he will most likely become pink mist but him and his dipshit fans boys don't. We could have them all there cheering and them boom it's raining fascist. I can't think of a more beautiful sight.
No sun for the poors
That's just the drugs talking.
Don't listen to old men on drugs. No good will come of it.
I thought they didn't believe the climate could be changed...
He just keeps getting more idiotic
Get fucked, Nazi
... He does realize they can't just shit on international organizations like the UN and USAID and expect the rest of the world to follow them tow in line, right? Specially given this will affect those regions for whom climate change would actually be beneficial.
Anyway, this sounds more like a bullshit excuse to do nothing about the causes of climate change. This would have excessive costs of the solution and the maintenance that would likely have to be footed by society and not the people who do everything to avoid taxes like Musk. This would give polluters an excuse to pollute more and a way to put even more chokeholds around societies.
But even more fundamentally, climate change is due to things like carbon dioxide basically reflecting heat back onto the planet. Dampening sunlight doesn't just block heat, it dampens the entire electromagnetic spectrum. For a speculative solution you would be adding additional problems ecosystems would have to deal with.
How about narcissistic self-obsessed psychopaths stop trying to milk society for all they have as fast and much as possible? They can start by paying taxes and not engineering entire political programs to subvert democracies for personal gain.
SPOILER ALERT: In a shocking twist, Musk ends up propelling the Earth directly into the Sun.
You are doom
Nice. Some shade to choke to death in.
The scale of this sort of thing is laughably huge. He's an idiot.
Oh so the thing right wing loons like to say the Jews already do?
"Elon, where do you get your brilliant ideas from?"
"Well, they just come to me. Because Im so brilliant."
"So not from other people that you then repackage ?
"No."
"You dont just buy companies, and slap an 'I made this' sticker on it?"
"Not from popular cartoons from over 20 years ago?"
".... go fuck yourself!"
Someone just watched Geostorm while on keta
What the hell is that thumbnail. That's nightmare fuel.
That's a prototype satellite. All satellites will be use cutouts of Elon Musk in this pose to block off the sun.
WARNING: THE FOLLOWING SENTENCE CONTAINS POTENTIALLY LETHAL AMOUNTS OF SARCASM:
I’m sure this will be a complete success, and I see no downsides.
It's not really a new idea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_radiation_modification
Just like the hyper loop Elon taking a well known idea and people giving him credit for inventing it. Launching satellites to do this is a terrible idea.
Why save Earth he's going to live on Mars anyway. Can he just go already?
PS: plus he can stay there with his "girlfriend" https://www.theverge.com/news/814168/xai-grok-ani-employee-biometric-data damn I'd actually pay to actually help him go.
Hopefully someone will take him out. He should be on next starship.
I guess I'll go get ready for the eternal eclipse...
Suffocating the planet to keep rich people from being tried for crimes against the earth. Sure is a new spin on boiling us frogs in the kettle.
Maybe the best example of someone who needs a Walter Sobchak in his life.
Just a big guy who won’t go away and keeps telling him to shut the fuck up.
no. just.. no.
(fuck)
If he does this he will only be trapping himself on the planet with the rest of us. We must make it as hard on him as possible
I like the illustration. it's like his head is exploding out of sheer stupidity
Futurism has the best illustrations sometimes.
Oh, as in launching a bunch of exploding space-shuttles to obscure the sun? Got it.
Wannabe Doctor Evil mf
That fucker high. Probably banged his coconut on the way down to one of his surprise naps again.
https://youtu.be/liYBTWFDnKA
No.
I think launching satellites is a terrible idea but I do think Geo engineering is a necessity. We are on a good trajectory to phase out most fossil fuels simply because the economics make more sense. If we can do something to avoid the worst of climate change we need to do it because the fossil fuel industry is not going to give up massive profits to save the planet unfortunately. Even if there are side effects theres no way it's worse than letting climate change happen.
Elon must have read KSR's Mars Trilogy and never once thought this might end badly.
Hell if we just launch enough satellites we won't have to worry about the pesky sun. /s
Honestly I prefer shades ot aerosols but would prefer it at a la grange than in orbit.
People are over complicating this whole thing really.
History has the answers we need to the climate crisis. If we just offer the weather goblin a fine wheel of fresh cheese and four comely maidens he will reverse climate change and we will all have both a bountiful harvest and a plump red apple as his thanks.
That doesn’t sound right, but due to the degradation of the American educational system, I don’t have the wherewithal to argue
American schools fail the young with a lackadaisical or even nonexistent approach to goblin education.
We're in Picard S2, on the Confederation timeline.
Fml.
I am sure he does not plan to serve those satellites to world's fascist regimes, why would he
Yet another billion dollar grift from the muskrat...
An yes weather control satalites. Has he been reading too many comspiracies?
Watched the None like it Hot episode of Futurama and liked Wernstrom's idea.
Ah... Souls in the Great Machine... A good book, but a terrible guide for humanity's development.
It wasn't enough to help ruin the US, now he wants to fuck up the entire world.
Huh. Doomsday weather device is on my BINGO card.
Ooohhh, more lies out of the mouth of Elon? You don't say!
Well if his Mars target dates are anything to go by (2018 first feet on Mars, right? And where are we with that now? Maybe but not even 1%) then this project would be completed by the year 2489
Someone must have told him about the really cool documentary they saw called Geostorm, Narrated by Gerard Butler.
Next up: mining the moon
Fuck it. Let's just make a Dyson sphere. If you can already circle the planet with enough satellites to cool it while letting plants still grow you're well on your way
The sun is a bit bigger than the earth. Dyson sphere goes around the star, not the planet.
I guess it might not come across in text. I was more mocking Musk's tendency to over promise and under deliver by taking it one step further
if einstein was still allive like in ra2, he wouldve created the weather machine.