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showerthoughts·Showerthoughtsbysupersquirrel

If video games actually determined our real world behavior, we wouldn't be violent, we would be obsessed with powerwashing and all have CDLs.

edit - Yeah I play video games with violence too, my point is that video games are a mirror that exposes a less brutal image of ourselves than we are convinced of. The truth of what we desire is as often silly or altruistic as it is selfish or violent, even in the realm of fantasy where the violence is unreal as everything else.

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lemmy.world

We would all be like Pacman chasing ghosts and popping pills........ Wait....

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slazer2aureply
lemmy.world

How many princesses have you tried to rescue only for them to be on another castle

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Archerreply
lemmy.world

Nah man he’s banned from all Disney theme parks now

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lemmy.ca

im an actual Italian man who eats mushrooms, but i dont dont stomp on turtles, and i haven't found my princess peach yet.

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I’ve always heard it as „we‘d be running around in dark rooms with brightly colored lights, eating pills and listening to electronic music“

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lemmy.ca

every shit-tier chore ever conceived, and every task on every 'honey do' list ever made, would be completed. every day. on schedule. and without fail.

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A cottage industry of recovering neighbors who have fallen asleep on their way home and returning them to their beds in exchange for a 'finders' fee might develop.

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4am
lemmy.zip

“Video games don’t affect our behavior! If Pac-Man had an effect on us, we’d all be running around darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music” - Raver’s favorite shirt

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I always liked that one....*old ex raver, still love the music for sure. Actual shirt I owned was 'I said no to drugs but they didn't listen'

Edit, I always thought raves was my generation's summer of love. Diluted but I think the idea for many were the same...of course not for all, but it's how I felt it sometimes. The best people to be around were always so positive, and I so wished the millennium ushered in more positivity than how it happened. But .. yeah we all know what happened early 2000s.

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lemmy.world

I remember in 1993 my dad tried saying that video games make kids violent.

For anyone too young to pick up on the obvious situation here, 1993 was the year the media started looking at games like Mortal Kombat, and saying video games are violence simulators. In those days, news was different. Today there's heavy bias in reporting. Watching the same story from 2 different reporting sources will often paint a vastly different picture. In those days however it wasn't nearly the issue it is today. Fox News didn't exist yet I don't think. And even when it first started, it wasn't what it would later become.

The news was just the news. And the news was saying video games make kids violent. My dad was doing the modern day equivilant of parroting fox news talking heads points. No opinion of his own. Just parroting the news.

So when he said that video games make kids violent, I said "Dad, I have 3 games. Sonic 2, Madden 93, and Jurassic Park. By your logic, I should be a star athlete who can play in the NFL, who runs so fast that I become a blur , and is also a velociraptor. Teenagers in the early 80s would be great at tennis, crossing the road quickly, and know how to shoot down UFOs."

He had no rebuttal, because nobody on the news made those arguements.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Imagine a dad making that argument these days and then they look at their kid's steam library and all they play is "shower with your dad simulator"

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Fox news might only go back to 96 but news was almost always politically motivated, I will accept that it may be deteriorating though

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lemmy.ml

Videogames in fact dictate my real world behavior, but I am stuck because I can't find the double jump or the wall climb anywhere. =C

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And that one time I tried to check behind a waterfall there was nothing there. :(

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lemmy.world

You gotta explore more and meet some guides, they unlock those abilities later.

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fedia.io

I mine, I forage, I genocide. It's a simple life, but a good one.

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And you sometimes pick one dandelion too many and forget how to walk faster than 3 km/h.

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reddthat.com

I would be farming and building shit to automate my life as much as possible.

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lemmy.zip

If that's true, then we be building factories, polluting the environment, and killing protestor.

Ohh wait

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lemmy.world

Do it slaughter millions of humans in games across different genres? Yes, I do and it's great fun!

Do I have any intention to kill even one human in real life? Hell no, I don't even want to hurt others!

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lemmy.world

Wait until you get older and see how the world runs, you'll get lots of reasons of wanting to hurt others!

Ah yes but video games are unrelated.

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I don't know, I was only guessing. And having fun too of course.

So I was guessing 20 to 30 for you which would be an average I pulled out of my butt (and could of course be wildly wrong) I could be almost double your age.

Oh and also not being neurotypical adds to having a very dark world view (like, probably, we keep negatives while NT forget them).

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lemmy.world

We would also all have our own mini farms and chests upon chests full of weird stuff.

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ani.social

I'm either building a factory in space or an organ harvesting drug empire in space.

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lemmy.world

That’s pretty amazing. I’ve never played the game but it looks pretty chill.

Sometimes I really get in the mood for chill games like Stardew Valley or NetHack! Maybe I’ll check out ETS2 sometime!

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sopuli.xyz

I mean, I recommend Motor Town: Behind The Wheel, but ETS2 is undeniably awesome too!

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ETS2 is getting a bus expansion too so you can drive buses instead of trucks of you prefer. The American counterpart ATS (same game engine, same studio and updated in lockstep with ETS2) is similarly getting a road trip expansion, where you can drive many classic American cars on a road trip.

Honestly I highly recommend the games because they're incredibly chill driving simulators

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lemmy.world

this game is great, i installed it just now. I heard the game is bad, but even still, i assumed the ui problems must have been from running the game through proton. but no, it's literally just that bad

also, on wikipedia there's a picture of the truck climbing a steep mountain. but what it doesn't show is that the truck actually goes much faster up steep mountains than over flat land because the physics system is terrible and the car doesn't slow down at all horizontally when it starts moving vertically.

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The play is fun, but you can get the highlights from watching the hilarious videos people have made on them. Just in case anyone wants to save the megabytes on the hard disk ;)

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lemmy.zip

You gotta change your username, TrainBoyGirl.

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I was going to say similar. Gonna start laying track on my new micro model railroad this evening.

I acquired some German models by pure happenstance but they're in a different scale from all of my other stuff so I need to build a small home for them. I've got a track plan for a basic little 1x4 foot micro layout and just got the last few pieces of track that I needed

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lemmy.ca

i can't believe they used halo for their recruitment ads. i was so pissed.

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Jumbiereply
lemmy.zip

Is this Microsoft approved or another case of the fascists just using art without permission?

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And I'd be eating readily available street pizza all the time!

"Hey look, someone left a full ham roast here on the sidewalk! I'm bleeding pretty bad, so I'll go ahead and chow down! Let me just squat over it real quick, I can usually eat a roast ham in like 0.06 seconds (assuming I've lost enough blood)."

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lemmy.world

And if childhood cartoons determined our actions, whole generations of kids would have wiped out the roadrunner population by dropping anvils on them (or attempting to, anyway).

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That many anvils... Maybe that's wipe out the iron supply.

Though death valley might be an even stranger landscape, covered in the anvils left behind.

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I'd just be living in a small town, digging through trash cans, giving fish to the local homeless man, giving beer to the alcoholic and mostly just planting an ungodly amount of fruit trees on my land.

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I never understood how "vitality" refers to not any type of armor, but instead an inheret "unkillable"ness until I started looking into wild boars.

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Except I play Civ all the time but avoid power and responsibility like the plague.

Speaking of plague, adding a disease mechanic would be cool

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fedia.io

Whenever I play Civ I try to go for a peaceful victory. Then someone picks a fight with me and that escalates with me going for the world domination victory.

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I usually play as Victoria so I like to do themes. Like if there are a lot of other woman leaders I’ll do a Girl Power game and form alliances with them and kill all the men.

Or if there are a lot of colonizer countries I’ll do a reverse colonization playthrough and conquer them with the help of colonized nations.

Then there’s the genocides I’ve waged for the most sacred resource to the English: Tea.

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I feel like Civ always punished you too much for being too successful in repelling another civ's attacks. Like, what do you mean they can take a couple of cities but when I do it it sours my relations with every single civilization on the map? Always pushes me to a domination victory when that happens. Sometimes I can manage it without gaining too much of a warmonger reputation, but it's too much of a balancing act

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lemmy.world

Imagine your behavior shaped by Ubisoft collect-a-thons. Now that's grim.

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lemmy.world

Drug addicts looking for scrap metal aren't much different. They look through abandoned structures, sneak around armed "hostiles", and sleep wherever there are no enemies.

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meanwhile, some tech bro tries to wrangle this into some kind of ARG product

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What I get from simulation video games is that if I didn't have to worry about working to live and the daily grind of life, I'd work to get real-world experience doing stuff I may like.

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I'd be wacking walls and machinery with a pickaxe.

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I'd be succesful in governing countries and making them prosperous and free as fuck without being conquered.

Oh, and I also farm.

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I have 30 hours in house flipper 2 since getting it 5 days ago. I wish I could live in the homes I make

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If video games determined our real world behavior,

I'd be a robot witnessing the fall of humanity, whose crime was free will

Don't know if that translates to a job necessarily

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This just made me imagine a sport that contains both and it would be awesome, call it Guerrilla Valet.

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lemmy.world

A lot of Crusader Kings or assassin's Creed?

(I think in one of AC games you're actually doing missions for Machiavelli himself.)

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Fair enough.

When given the option "spare him, or kill him", one has to ask "is he worth XP?"

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I'd be a min-maxing hoarder that never used stuff. In all honestly, I should probably try to be more like that minus the hoarding.

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In my case the bodies of my enemies would fuel my armies of the undead leaving a trail of blood and destruction behind me. If the first boss I encounter doesn't take me out.

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I would be throwing water bottles at and casting lightning bolt on all my problems

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Speak for yourself; I am a VERY violent gamer! There's a mission in Cyberpunk that really gets my blood boiling. These two guys are into human trafficking and shooting pornography of their sexual exploits. The father of a little boy they abused and filmed themselves abusing and murdering hires you to find them and kill them. Well, they don't just shoot porn, they shoot brain dances, which are like interactive VR videos where you play a role. And they "shoot" while "in" the brain dance... so when you find them, they're in their rigs and unaware you're there. You can shoot them. You can wake them up and shoot them. You can shoot one and listen to the other mourn the one you shot (they're father and son). Or you can leave them for the police. I always wake them up, shoot the son, let the father mourn him for a few minutes, then pull out a sword and take his head off. Can't do anything about the people who do that for real, so I do it in a video game.

Though I just finished my third run through Night City, this time on the Xbox. I think I'm done for a while (it is a VERY long game and I insist on doing ALL the quests... my game time was something like 250 hours). I recently bought it on Mac (it was just ported) so I will go through it again on my computer with the keyboard and mouse. Sure, it looks like ass on the Mac (the whole computer, storage and all is one chip, there's no dedicated graphics card) but it plays!

I'm gonna do the Mass Effect trilogy next. Just got the remastered trilogy for $6 on Xbox. I've started the first one a couple times but never finished it. I keep hearing it's a masterpiece. This time I'm gonna get through the first one, and then do the second one. I expect them to take a long time.

I also play Animal Crossing. As of last year, that's my main game. I've got everything unlocked, I'm just trying to finish the museum (without cheating). I got both the tarantula and the scorpion, so I never need to run around at night with my net out (which is what makes them attack, the only "scary" thing in Animal Crossing). They do sell for 8,000 Bells (the in-game currency) each, which is nice, but I make so much more than that every day, and I could make ~130,000 every 3 days harvesting all my fruit. Wasps is 15k (5 x 3,000 each), the money rock is 16.1k, I don't need the hassle of catching the high value bugs (plus they're rare). I've paid off all my loans to Tom Nook. The new update coming out in January will add two more storage upgrades, but I have 5.5M Bells banked, so I think I'm good and I don't need more storage anyway (but buying it might unlock more fun stuff). They showed us more than they told us about, so there's probably features they didn't even show. Definitely a good time to book a deserted island getaway!

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Then I'd be pretty violent against demon invasions of our world. Or maybe I already am, don't really know how to test it out lol.

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lemmy.ca

Probably put military in our cities, rename Department of Defence to Department of War.. Make preparations to invade Venezuela or something...
GOoD ThiNg viDYa gAmeS don'T AFfeCt the ReAL WorlD!

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lemmy.zip

Are you saying Hogsbreath is copying the plot of Battlefield 6?

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Over the years too many 12 year old COD players told him they fucked his mom while teabagging him I guess. He snapped

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