Spyke
fedia.io

what the heck are they even talking about? Which 8 wars? And isn't he trying to start a war with Venezuela? This is total BS, afaik.

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joekar1990reply
lemmy.world

He's trying to take credit for:

  1. Israel and Iran
  2. Cambodia and Thailand
  3. India and Pakistan
  4. Rwanda and Democratic Republic of Congo
  5. Armenia and Azerbaijan
  6. Egypt and Ethiopia
  7. Serbia and Kosovo
  8. Israel and Hamas

While some did have diplomatic breakthroughs some of the fighting hasn’t stopped and some countries said he had nothing to do with it. Granted he will never say anything about the ones that are still fighting.

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zarkanianreply
sh.itjust.works

Israel and Hamas

Sweet Satan, I hate that framing. It's Israel and Palestine. They aren't at war with "Hamas", they're at war with the Palestinian people.

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Victorreply
lemmy.world

Would you say the Palestinian people are also at war with Israel? I wouldn't say so. They're sitting ducks. They are innocent bystanders being slaughtered. That's no war. The war is between Hamas and Israel, but Israel is punishing all of Palestine. That's my take at least. Maybe I'm misinformed.

What it is is a genocide.

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Authreply
lemmy.world

It can be both a genocide and a war. Hamas is the de facto government of that territory and represents the Palestinian people in Gaza. There was fighting between Organized and ranked Hamas Military forces and IDF right up until the last ceasefire.

The genocide was a result of the targeting civilians as part of the war, breaking rules of war.

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Victorreply
lemmy.world

Hamas […] represents the Palestinian people in Gaza.

Do they really though? Kind of like Trump represents the people of America?

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There is argument to be had I guess but I would say yes they do. They have been governing the strip for close to two decades and have popular support from the population even post oct 7th. After the latest ceasefire they still de facto govern the strip.

I would say Trump represents the people of America as well. He is the elected leader and his views may not represent all the citizens but his actions are the actions of America.

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lemmynsfw.com

While technically correct, I would still refrain from calling an attempted eradication a war.

Just going to once again plug that Hamas is the name of the publicly elected government of the territories of Palestine, elected in 2006 to help restore order after the third-to-last "war" with Israelis.

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It's Israel's framing because

A) They don't believe that Palestine exists

and

B) Nobody likes Hamas, so an Israel v. Hamas war sounds much more positive, even though the vast majority of people being killed have nothing to do with Hamas.

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That, and the war genocide hasn’t actually ended.

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Nah but that's just wrong. Israel is at war with Palestine. The Israeli government is genociding, and Hamas (the Palestinian government) committed the attacks you are refering to.

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ChicoSuavereply
lemmy.world

This is a great chance to make MAGA feel dumb. Ask them what 8 wars. Make them do research. Doubt it was actually 8 wars and insist he only made 1 ceasefire that didn't last a week.

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Ask them what continent each one is on, and watch them get angry and beat up a minority about it.

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Gorkreply
sopuli.xyz

There's also the ones that he ended that never started because he's addled:

Aberbaijan and Albania

Cambodia and Armenia

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What about that conflict in covfefe? I hear it's all computer. Sarah Connor is all over it.

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lemmynsfw.com

That war hasn't been won yet. And by that I mean - I would refer to the battle as between oppressors and libertarians

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Libertarians are the polar opposite of oppressors, dude, they believe in the freedom of the people.

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Yeah, Christmas is claiming Easter is using weather control machines to get rid of winter.

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And most of those aren't ears, just conflicts which MIGHT become a war if nothing changes.

With that loose a definition I just fixed like a hundred wars in this year alone, I should be the Nobel peace prize

Having said that....

This is a corrupt psychopath asshole whose only reason for wanting this nobel prize is narcissism. He and his family havr stolen so much from all of his own charities that he isn't allowed to have charities anymore. All of his businesses have some scam or another attached to it, this is just your average asshole used car dealer with an extremely bad taste. Let's give HIM a Nobel prize?

I know that this Rep is only saying this to better her position, even though Luna is a Spanish last name, perra hipócrita, and I fully expect that once trump is gone, and he will be gone, that all these assholes will be jailed, this bitch included. You buttered up to trump for political favors? Jail. Throw away the key.

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he will never say anything about the ones that are still fighting

He will never say anything about being played for an absolute fool by Putin. Fucking dumbass orange man.

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MisterFrogreply
lemmy.world
  1. Israel and Iran

How can one claim to have stopped a war when you yourself ordered military strikes on one of the belidgerants

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feddit.org

I wonder how history will look back at this time. Or the people of Omicron Persei 8 when that content reaches them.

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fonix232reply
fedia.io

I guess the way we look back at Nazi Germany.

Hitler had the almost exact same propaganda going, and he even got the Nobel Peace Prize...

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Hitler (...) even got the Nobel Peace Prize

No, he didn't. He was nominated ironically by one politician.

a nomination no one took under serious consideration. He was nominated in 1939 by a member of the Swedish parliament, E.G.C. Brandt.

Technically, the Nobel Committee cannot control the nominations that pour in. According to the Nobel Prize website, a nomination is valid if it is submitted by “members of national assemblies and national governments.” So Brandt was able to submit this nomination. However, Brandt's nomination of Hitler was not intended to be taken seriously, and he described it as ironical.

Read the article to understand the point he was trying to make.

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Well today i learned, hitler was nominated for a nobel peace prize in 1939, but it was more a tongue in cheeck nomination

https://www.nobelpeacecenter.org/en/news/hitler-as-a-nobel-laureate

The nomination of Chamberlain provoked him to nominate Hitler as a provocation against Hitler and Nazism. The result of the Munich Agreement was that the western powers stabbed Czechoslovakia in the back by handing over Sudetenland to achieve peace

But the irony was lost on people, ans the nomination was withdrawn at the last moment, ans regardless no peace prize was ever awarded for 1939 due to ww2 breaking out

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Gorkreply
sopuli.xyz

Kinda like how we're all Time's Person of the Year for 2006

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fedia.io

What is she even talking about? Which eight wars were these?

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my favourite thing about anna paulina luna is how she to claim being both latinx and jewish when, in reality, she was german and her grandfather fought for the nazis.

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piefed.social

Omg, she's a real person? I assumed from the post here this was just more foreign trolling stirring things up. No rational person could say and mean this, I assumed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Paulina_Luna

She authored the 2023 Christian children's book, The Legend of Naranja, which suggests that Biden stole the 2020 election

Hearts and minds, people. /smh

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TrickDacyreply
lemmy.world

A children's book that throws in the stolen election bullshit? Lmao I'm fucking done. They always talk about the left indoctrinating children because that's what they do.

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What 8 wars?

They're just laying low and waiting until Trump's bribe money runs out.

Never forget that Trump will throw down cash in order to make himself look good. What does anyone wanna bet that the money grifted from the cybercurrencies his organization is supporting isn't in this mix?

There's nothing real there.

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Also he ended the Russia-Ukraine war on day one like he promised around 4000 times! /s

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The @NobelPrizeCommittee has lost all credibility

No kidding. Let me see what the latest Nobel Prize winner has to say, recently.

María Corina Machado

We are on the threshold of victory and today, more than ever, we count on President Trump, the people of the United States, the peoples of Latin America, and the democratic nations of the world as our principal allies to achieve Freedom and democracy.

I dedicate this prize to the suffering people of Venezuela and to President Trump for his decisive support of our cause!

Okay, fair enough, Congresswoman Luna. I can't argue.

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People say leftists don't like Christmas but I enjoy watching capitalism parade around the severed head of religion just as much as anyone else.

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She runs nonsense UFO hearings on missiles hitting balloons, too. Says things like “they don’t want us to have that power” at them (regarding her colleagues in government.). Even though her GOP controls things.

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She's late to the party if she's just congratulating Russia for backing Trump now.

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lemmy.world

Anna Paulina Luna is an American politician and Air Force veteran serving as the U.S. representative for Florida's 13th congressional district since 2023. A member of the Republican Party, she is the first Mexican-American woman elected to Congress from Florida. Wikipedia

Florida.

The US is a failed state.

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Turning off a Star Wars movie when a black actor comes on screen doesn't count as "ending a war".

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