“The document states that the contingency fund is reserved for such things as helping individuals in disaster areas. It cited Tropical Storm Melissa, which could become a major hurricane in the coming days, as an example of why it’s important to have funds available to mobilize quickly in the event of a disaster. The document was obtained by The Associated Press and was first reported by Axios.”
Trump isn't supposed to be able to deploy the national guard the way he did, he wasn't allowed to move funds for the wall, he shouldn't be able to decimate the Dept of Education, they shouldn't be able to deport people without a trial.
The Trump admin can almost do anything it wants, so they could use the funds, they've chosen not to.
In 1 year (midterms), and in 3, US voters who starved from this will forget all about it and vote based on whatever outrage pops up on cable news or their social feed. And, more specifically, not vote in primaries where both party's problems can really be addressed.
Well duh, obviously if it wasn't for all the illegal Mexican gang members taking all the food stamps there would have been plenty of money to help the people that deserved it, like them.
I still wonder if they are banking on making 2025 just such a miserable year that it's comparitively easy to make 2026 feel good.
Turn SNAP back on, dial back the tariffs. People feel a remarkable improvement in food security and prices. Might still be in worse shape than end of 2024, but people will tend to remember change in experience rather than their experience in absolute terms.
The narrative will inevitably be that somehow the GOP figured out how to overcome those pesky democrats and restore the things that the democrats broke.
If things remained persistently broken, then the narrative couldn't really overcome people's actual experience. They strongly branded and made it clear that this was the Trump show, he's got the executive branch, the legislative branch, and the judicial branch. When it comes to 'right now', it's hard to ignore that reality. But once they make it 'last year's problem', then mental gymnastics can resume to blame the democrats.
Hell they could resolve this crisis by ultimately letting the democrats have what they are asking for and the voters would still credit the GOP with restoring the benefits that the democrats are demanding. They've already set the stage by saying democrats want to give all the money to illegal immigrants (which they explicitly don't) and so there will be some BS to claim they 'compromised' by getting the democrats to give up illegal immigrant eligibility (they aren't eligible and were never asked to be) and then take credit for the 'good' version of the outcome.
He's also doing it because it's what billionaires want.
Hmm these people don't want to work a 996 to afford my enshitified garbage, better fund lobbying to starve them to death and if that doesn't work I'll make sure to fund propaganda to stoke racial tensions then just in case they get wise as a last line of defense why not fund the modern day Gestapo
This place is a message... and part of a system of messages... pay attention to it!
Sending this message was important to us. We considered ourselves to be a powerful culture.
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us. This message is a warning about danger.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours.
Incase anyone wants to help their local community. I talked to my local food pantry today and they said they prefer financial donations vs food drops. They can make a dollar go further than we can at the grocery store
Work with a food bank and this is spot on, except they do get food donations that make sense from farmers and food service companies. But people buying food at the grocery store will do worse than the food bank can do with their connections, experience, and volume.
Times have changed since then though. Modern public infrastructure is a lot better suited for troop movements compared to the 1700s and 1800s when there was plenty of revolutions occurring across Europe. People seem to have this idea that they're going to take out their guns and start guerrilla warfaring massive groups of armed troops.
I do believe we need to be more aggressive, more proactive, but there is a good chance that it might be expected. It's entirely possible that they're just waiting for an excuse to start gunning people down in the streets.
Right now the soldiers and ice feel invulnerable, untouchable. Imagine being a foot soldier in an area where most folks now want you dead. Doesn't matter if its crappy hunting rifles shooting at you, they will kill you, they demoralize you. All of a sudden your brothers and sisters want you dead and you're not quite sure what you're even doing there. Worse, maybe you're not onboard with all of the stupid shit Trump and his ilk are doing, maybe you decide you're actually with the civilians.
No question though, so much death is on the way, but the fight is worth it for our children and future.
a qoute from ff13, when lightning was discussing wether to destroy a FAL'CIE that can make food/supplies out of thin air. and "she said hungry people are an angry people." by destroying the very thing that feeds people will cause the people to start persecuting "l'cie people" and demand thier executions.(of course this was all engineered by the fal'cie as a contigency)
he would need the miltiary on his side, but it doesnt seem like they are too keen to do this, considered they are also furloughed. that 130mil isnt even going to the troops too.
MAGAts seeth with resentment at being told that they are backwards, ignorant, stupid racists. They want to hurt people because they have been hurt. They never think about improving themselves or not being backwards, ignorant, stupid racists. They love Donald Trump because he hurts people. MAGA had a hardon for cruelty.
i dont think magats have been hurt, they are afraid of the same reprisal, they used to oppress minorities, also facing the music, that thier voting pattern has consequences.
So, my first question is why hasn't it been an issue before? Was the timing so that they wouldn't miss a payment? Or was there a vote to make an exception for snap? Not in favor of this at all, I just don't understand the mechanisms of a lot of this.
I was under the impression the US had the highest gun ownership per capita in the world. I'm sure those patriots are gonna rise against this tyranny. Any time now...
I’m a gun owner, but the US has the “highest rate” of ownership in a way that most Americans don’t understand stats. We have a shitload of guns, enough for like one in every humans arms. However only like 45% of homes have guns. Like me most of us gun owners don’t just own one, we own like… a number that’s greater than 5. So it skews the data.
Still I thankfully live in Blue AF California. My guns are for when we go to secede. Which I feel is getting sooner. Cascadia and all that.
I wish there was a way to prevent this dickhead from accessing his McDonald’s budget while others are starved. I don’t even need him to go hungry, just no access to his preferred slop.
Would be pretty strange if there were go fund mes around the world to feed hungry Americans meanwhile going into trillions of debt whilst holding the positions they do on the market and in WH. I don’t think a country could fail harder at sustaining a society. This is embarrassing. Even compared to Roman times. Like they failed… but not so stupidly. This is the stupidest fail ever.
Russia/star link yup thats why the heavy push into using the voting machines in red states. oh if you're not aware this is also what happened mitch mcconells last senate election, but no news media called it out over it, they largely buried it. now hes pretending to have these "freezes" to avoid any confrontation of the issue.
it make sense, since the gop is concerned, they always threaten to cut MEDICAID/CARE, and snap, or subsidies but they never actually do it, just for sound bites for fox and murdoch. now with TRUMP, they are afraid of not offending him, so they are rubberstamping all his demands.
plus the "cuts" were always used a distraction from the corporate tax cuts, now they actually have to Cut the very thing they always teased the magats about for decades.
ikr? Can we start labeling this as a Republican choice, not just Trump?
This is a Republican administration operating with support from a Republican-controlled Senate and House and by Republican judges and other appointees.
Project 2025 isn't Trump's plan, it's a Republican plan. Let's start talking about the party that's doing this to America so they can't just claim it was "all Trump" and be believed when it all comes tumbling down around them.
Not sure if you're just blatantly ignorant of what's actually happening or if this is just an attempt to smear Democrats, but it'd be nice if a Republican could take the extra 5 minutes to actually read about what's going on. I'll do it for you (you're welcome).
Sen. Hawley introduced the "Keep SNAP Funded Act of 2025" on Oct. 21st. It's currently with the Senate Appropriations Committee, as of that time. It's not likely to go anywhere though as REPUBLICAN LEADERS, are not prioritizing it. From a Politico article, there were several quotes from Republicans stating that they don't want a stopgap, that it doesn't actually fix the problem.
But hey, it's so much more convenient to just blame Democrats for every problem, isn't it?
They have 53/100 in the Senate, and because this is less than 60, it permits the FILIBUSTER to take place on the part of the democrats, who are refusing to let the budget go to vote.
What do you mean by this? The democrats are literally engaging in a filibuster. Did you not see Katherine Clark say “There will be families that are going to suffer… but it is one of the few leverage times we have.”?
They literally just have to let the budget go to vote.
For one thing the filibuster standing rule can be ditched by simple majority. Neil Gorsuch's nomination is in fact an example of the Senate overcoming the filibuster if they want to. The SC nomination was so important to the GOP they did it.
However, the consequences of the government shutdown are not as important as having a conservative majority in the supreme court to the GOP. Or the GOP are intentionally delaying as a strategy to try to let the narrative of blaming the democrats sink in before they 'miraculously' overcome it and take credit for fixing it after the democrats 'broke' it.
Republicans tried to piecemeal their way to cutting the ACA subsidies. Dems actually resisted that bad deal for a change. If Trump is so damn good at making deals, why are deals not getting made?
Elections have consequences. If Republicans wanted a supermajority they should have worked harder on election day. Now they have to negotiate, they're just choosing not to.
Maybe the democrats should have worked hard enough to get a majority. Or chosen to negotiate by allowing the bill for temporary snap funding to pass.
The democrats blocking the last one is them DIRECTLY withholding snap funding until they get what they want.
Their strategy, is that people are stupid and will blame the republicans for the actions of the democrats. More likely though, the democrats are going to give the republicans that supermajority in 2026.
There is SNAP funding.
Even the Republicans ensured that there was 5 Billion Dollars prepared to ensure that SNAP funding could not easily run out.
It is being Withheld by Trump
Any references for this?
So what's the point of a "Contingency Fund" if it can't be tapped to cover contingencies?
“The document states that the contingency fund is reserved for such things as helping individuals in disaster areas. It cited Tropical Storm Melissa, which could become a major hurricane in the coming days, as an example of why it’s important to have funds available to mobilize quickly in the event of a disaster. The document was obtained by The Associated Press and was first reported by Axios.”
Gov shutdown isn’t enough I guess.
Damn, they're going to stop feeding folks so they can feed folks in case if emergency. Some genius brain shit right there.
I reckon it'd be fair to classify the Trump administration as a national disaster.
It just reads like an excuse.
Trump isn't supposed to be able to deploy the national guard the way he did, he wasn't allowed to move funds for the wall, he shouldn't be able to decimate the Dept of Education, they shouldn't be able to deport people without a trial.
The Trump admin can almost do anything it wants, so they could use the funds, they've chosen not to.
Precisely.
No funding, but there's 40 billion to "buy" the election in Argentina...
And $300 million for a new ballroom, $230 million to compensate him for the FBI investigating his extensive criminal activities, etc...
A plane he's converting into AF1, that he will just keep. I think a couple more planes for ICE Barbie....
That plane won't even be available until he's out of office, yet we have to pay for renovating it, so he can fly a palace around in his retirement.
Unless he's not planning on leaving. Suddenly he's acting like he knows he has to leave after this term, but, y'know, he LIES.
He's not going anywhere, if he has anything to say about it. Out of office means prison, or worse.
Failed State.
State isn't the right word to describe the USA. States have borders and believe in national sovereignty.
America is now just a criminal syndicate with a military.
Well ok, but also that's pretty much what a state is...
A literal traitor to our nation. Enabled and protected by a literal traitor party.
Just watch.
In 1 year (midterms), and in 3, US voters who starved from this will forget all about it and vote based on whatever outrage pops up on cable news or their social feed. And, more specifically, not vote in primaries where both party's problems can really be addressed.
Well duh, obviously if it wasn't for all the illegal Mexican gang members taking all the food stamps there would have been plenty of money to help the people that deserved it, like them.
I still wonder if they are banking on making 2025 just such a miserable year that it's comparitively easy to make 2026 feel good.
Turn SNAP back on, dial back the tariffs. People feel a remarkable improvement in food security and prices. Might still be in worse shape than end of 2024, but people will tend to remember change in experience rather than their experience in absolute terms.
The narrative will inevitably be that somehow the GOP figured out how to overcome those pesky democrats and restore the things that the democrats broke.
If things remained persistently broken, then the narrative couldn't really overcome people's actual experience. They strongly branded and made it clear that this was the Trump show, he's got the executive branch, the legislative branch, and the judicial branch. When it comes to 'right now', it's hard to ignore that reality. But once they make it 'last year's problem', then mental gymnastics can resume to blame the democrats.
Hell they could resolve this crisis by ultimately letting the democrats have what they are asking for and the voters would still credit the GOP with restoring the benefits that the democrats are demanding. They've already set the stage by saying democrats want to give all the money to illegal immigrants (which they explicitly don't) and so there will be some BS to claim they 'compromised' by getting the democrats to give up illegal immigrant eligibility (they aren't eligible and were never asked to be) and then take credit for the 'good' version of the outcome.
All the bad things they still blame on Biden, even when Trump was president. Overall it still hurts non-whites a tiny bit more, so they're ok with it.
Interesting history fact of the day: It took about one and a half years from Hitler coming to power to the night of the long knives.
Republicans: cutting food assistance
Also Republicans: "Waaaah! Why aren't people having kids?"
also some posts on reddit, some magats are quite gleeful over the cuts.
He's also doing it because it's what billionaires want.
Damn it, I knew it was time to go to the gun store but I was putting it off.
Fascists need to be buried 6 feet deep.
I still like the idea of burying Trump and his kitchen cabinet in a deep geologic repository, where we bury vitrified spent fissile fuel.
To be fair, here in the states, we have a lot of fuel in line to be deposited.
It would be a very appropriate message for the tombstone:
This place is a message... and part of a system of messages... pay attention to it!
Sending this message was important to us. We considered ourselves to be a powerful culture.
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us. This message is a warning about danger.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours.
The danger is to the body, and it can kill.
Super shallow so the piss can soak down and reach
His kitchen cabinet is full of pussy-grabbing pinchy pantyhose (pinche pendenos).
or the sudden sound of guillotines falling.
˙dn ʇǝǝɟ xᴉs ɹO
Incase anyone wants to help their local community. I talked to my local food pantry today and they said they prefer financial donations vs food drops. They can make a dollar go further than we can at the grocery store
They also know what to get, in terms of what is most useful.
You're telling me my year old can of pumpkin pie filling isn't useful?
Work with a food bank and this is spot on, except they do get food donations that make sense from farmers and food service companies. But people buying food at the grocery store will do worse than the food bank can do with their connections, experience, and volume.
Actually starving people out is a great way to get them to revolt.
Literally the actual thing that lit off the French Revolution. It wasn't just the taxes. It wasn't the bad labor practices. It wasn't the decadence of the rich. It was women marching to the palace because so many couldn't afford bread.
Times have changed since then though. Modern public infrastructure is a lot better suited for troop movements compared to the 1700s and 1800s when there was plenty of revolutions occurring across Europe. People seem to have this idea that they're going to take out their guns and start guerrilla warfaring massive groups of armed troops.
I do believe we need to be more aggressive, more proactive, but there is a good chance that it might be expected. It's entirely possible that they're just waiting for an excuse to start gunning people down in the streets.
Right now the soldiers and ice feel invulnerable, untouchable. Imagine being a foot soldier in an area where most folks now want you dead. Doesn't matter if its crappy hunting rifles shooting at you, they will kill you, they demoralize you. All of a sudden your brothers and sisters want you dead and you're not quite sure what you're even doing there. Worse, maybe you're not onboard with all of the stupid shit Trump and his ilk are doing, maybe you decide you're actually with the civilians.
No question though, so much death is on the way, but the fight is worth it for our children and future.
a qoute from ff13, when lightning was discussing wether to destroy a FAL'CIE that can make food/supplies out of thin air. and "she said hungry people are an angry people." by destroying the very thing that feeds people will cause the people to start persecuting "l'cie people" and demand thier executions.(of course this was all engineered by the fal'cie as a contigency)
The US government seems to want people to violently revolt.
I imagine they want to use it as an excuse to take absolute power. But I don't think they thought it thoroughly.
exactly this….
food riots/ looting -> martial law -> dictatorship
Oh the trump administration is 100% hoping people revolt - they're already discussing invoking the insurrection act
he would need the miltiary on his side, but it doesnt seem like they are too keen to do this, considered they are also furloughed. that 130mil isnt even going to the troops too.
That's probably where ICE comes in. Are they still being paid?
yes ICE, they made an exception for ice of COURSE.
What if they have?
If they are right, then the US is fucked.
I really think they are wrong, and that the US is less fucked, but well, I've been wrong several times in my life.
Not an US citizen, conservative states seem to have more guns. If there's Civil outcry it could easily be people vs people
MAGAts seeth with resentment at being told that they are backwards, ignorant, stupid racists. They want to hurt people because they have been hurt. They never think about improving themselves or not being backwards, ignorant, stupid racists. They love Donald Trump because he hurts people. MAGA had a hardon for cruelty.
And fail to realize they are also in the crosshairs.
magats, are thirsty for attention, they are excited to be noticed trump, even if they are being targeted.
i dont think magats have been hurt, they are afraid of the same reprisal, they used to oppress minorities, also facing the music, that thier voting pattern has consequences.
A tyrant exercises power in a manner that is arbitrary, unreasonable, and cruel.
Trump makes it a point to always do all 3 simultaneously
Have they tried having their parents put them on the company board?
have they tried not being poor? or get an MBA and become a ceo?
A shit stain in history
are you "there yet" America?
My friend, cruelty is not only the theme of his administration - it's the theme of many of it's backers too.
I thought it hurt enough in the aughts, and in 2017-2020 that we'd do something about it, but we didn't.
So it's going to hurt more. Our aristocrats seem determined to let the third estate know its place.
Trump said he is probably not going to heaven. I feel kind of certain of that... I mean, assuming there is a god even.
In what religion would a man like Trump go to a place of eternal bliss after death?
Scientific atheism... :)
Seems to me that cruelty is the theme of conservative governments worldwide.
Trump: Fuck the children
Be careful, a conservative might hear you and take it literally.
Sadly they don't need the prompting they are way ahead of you
Thanksgiving is going to be crazy. People are going to be so mad about so many things not working
Oh god, turkey prices are going to be nuts.
So, my first question is why hasn't it been an issue before? Was the timing so that they wouldn't miss a payment? Or was there a vote to make an exception for snap? Not in favor of this at all, I just don't understand the mechanisms of a lot of this.
The USDA maintains an emergency fund for situations like this. This time they're saying they can't use it, and it's gone to the courts.
I really appreciate the enlightening comment.
No worries, everything's super confusing right now.
On the plus side, y'all have a right to bear arms. So that's nice.
Tbh, if you can't afford food idk how your supposed to afford getting a gun. How does gun taste? Heh heh
I was under the impression the US had the highest gun ownership per capita in the world. I'm sure those patriots are gonna rise against this tyranny. Any time now...
I’m a gun owner, but the US has the “highest rate” of ownership in a way that most Americans don’t understand stats. We have a shitload of guns, enough for like one in every humans arms. However only like 45% of homes have guns. Like me most of us gun owners don’t just own one, we own like… a number that’s greater than 5. So it skews the data.
Still I thankfully live in Blue AF California. My guns are for when we go to secede. Which I feel is getting sooner. Cascadia and all that.
Hopefully you can also get some solidarity to go along with those rights.
I wish there was a way to prevent this dickhead from accessing his McDonald’s budget while others are starved. I don’t even need him to go hungry, just no access to his preferred slop.
Guess he'll just have to suffer with his second choice of overcooked steak slathered in ketchup.
Would be pretty strange if there were go fund mes around the world to feed hungry Americans meanwhile going into trillions of debt whilst holding the positions they do on the market and in WH. I don’t think a country could fail harder at sustaining a society. This is embarrassing. Even compared to Roman times. Like they failed… but not so stupidly. This is the stupidest fail ever.
lol gofundme. mabye realize its time to leave, or that it was time to leave decades ago when you were old enough to learn about the 2nd amendment.
Snowflake says what
It is almost like Americans are getting what they voted for...
the election was hacked and stolen, they didn’t vote for this
Russia/star link yup thats why the heavy push into using the voting machines in red states. oh if you're not aware this is also what happened mitch mcconells last senate election, but no news media called it out over it, they largely buried it. now hes pretending to have these "freezes" to avoid any confrontation of the issue.
it make sense, since the gop is concerned, they always threaten to cut MEDICAID/CARE, and snap, or subsidies but they never actually do it, just for sound bites for fox and murdoch. now with TRUMP, they are afraid of not offending him, so they are rubberstamping all his demands.
plus the "cuts" were always used a distraction from the corporate tax cuts, now they actually have to Cut the very thing they always teased the magats about for decades.
This is a legislative branch action not executive….
ikr? Can we start labeling this as a Republican choice, not just Trump?
This is a Republican administration operating with support from a Republican-controlled Senate and House and by Republican judges and other appointees.
Project 2025 isn't Trump's plan, it's a Republican plan. Let's start talking about the party that's doing this to America so they can't just claim it was "all Trump" and be believed when it all comes tumbling down around them.
Start living a lifestyle that doesn't depend on America.
This has real, "just think positive thoughts and go for a walk" messages posted towards depressed people vibes.
Why don't Democrats do the "lesser of two evils" thing and pass the government funding bill? People are suffering because of this!
Troll post, useful idiot, or a 🌻 to be
Yeah why not just give the republicans everything they want?
House Republicans offered a bill to keep specifically SNAP funded while everything else is still under negotiation.
Democrats declined.
Not sure if you're just blatantly ignorant of what's actually happening or if this is just an attempt to smear Democrats, but it'd be nice if a Republican could take the extra 5 minutes to actually read about what's going on. I'll do it for you (you're welcome).
Sen. Hawley introduced the "Keep SNAP Funded Act of 2025" on Oct. 21st. It's currently with the Senate Appropriations Committee, as of that time. It's not likely to go anywhere though as REPUBLICAN LEADERS, are not prioritizing it. From a Politico article, there were several quotes from Republicans stating that they don't want a stopgap, that it doesn't actually fix the problem.
But hey, it's so much more convenient to just blame Democrats for every problem, isn't it?
Sources [Politico], [Congress.gov]
I already have this person tagged as "right-wing douchebag". Huh wonder why
Republicans have full control of the fed, numb nuts
They have 53/100 in the Senate, and because this is less than 60, it permits the FILIBUSTER to take place on the part of the democrats, who are refusing to let the budget go to vote.
You might be the dumbest person on lemmy I've seen. Conservatives completely control the fed. They could do it if they wanted to.
They're using Democrats as a scapegoat so morons like you fall for the "but the Democrats won't play ball" hook line and sinker.
What do you mean by this? The democrats are literally engaging in a filibuster. Did you not see Katherine Clark say “There will be families that are going to suffer… but it is one of the few leverage times we have.”?
They literally just have to let the budget go to vote.
For one thing the filibuster standing rule can be ditched by simple majority. Neil Gorsuch's nomination is in fact an example of the Senate overcoming the filibuster if they want to. The SC nomination was so important to the GOP they did it.
However, the consequences of the government shutdown are not as important as having a conservative majority in the supreme court to the GOP. Or the GOP are intentionally delaying as a strategy to try to let the narrative of blaming the democrats sink in before they 'miraculously' overcome it and take credit for fixing it after the democrats 'broke' it.
Republicans tried to piecemeal their way to cutting the ACA subsidies. Dems actually resisted that bad deal for a change. If Trump is so damn good at making deals, why are deals not getting made?
Elections have consequences. If Republicans wanted a supermajority they should have worked harder on election day. Now they have to negotiate, they're just choosing not to.
Maybe the democrats should have worked hard enough to get a majority. Or chosen to negotiate by allowing the bill for temporary snap funding to pass.
The democrats blocking the last one is them DIRECTLY withholding snap funding until they get what they want.
Their strategy, is that people are stupid and will blame the republicans for the actions of the democrats. More likely though, the democrats are going to give the republicans that supermajority in 2026.
So the republicans are literally incapable of governing the country without a supermajority, but the democrats are? Who would vote republican then?
Republicans control the house, senate, and presidency. Where's the leadership?
Soon, they will have a supermajority.
Wow a Twitter screenshot? From @LeadingReport??? I stand totally corrected and ashamed of all my previous opinions 😝