China will remove canola tariffs if Canada scraps EV levies: ambassador
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/50798037
Canada has had 100 per cent tariffs on all EVs imported from China since last October
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Seems like a no-brainer. Canada doesn't have an EV production to speak of. I believe it was originally done to support the U.S. EV industry, but do we really need to be doing that?
Oh, was it? If that was the only justification… yeah. Seems like a straightforward play.
Idk, US or US industry has a choke hold on politicians. I feel our politicians has no political will to negotiate against the US.
Maybe the real "elbows up" was the useless neolibs we made along the way.
made sense since us has 100% tariffs on chinese EVs , to prop up the overpriced US evs.
It might have been the only official justification. However I suspect that there’s unofficial ones, like “we are worried it’ll come with spyware that directly reports everything to China” or “if we do this we might becoming mainly dependent on Chinese cars, which then means China can pull them out from under us, maybe disable them remotely, etc”.
Depends on how much they thought this through and how much they trust China now and in the next few decades.
cant be any worst than the spyware for the US govt.
Well ideally I suspect people would just want a product without the spyware.
I see your point, however, China is consistent, and it is not nearly so imperialistic as the United States. I'm not sure which one I trust less.
To me this is a difference between a chaotic type of untrustworthiness and a more stable type of untrustworthiness. Wouldn’t want to pick either if it can be avoided.
Sounds like a win-win?
I'm fine with that as long as ZERO personal info is transmitted to China.
Yeah.... about that
I can't understand why there is no law against that - at least give users a choice. This concern is valid for all cars, not only EVs and not only Chinese.
But sending your money to China is just fine?
As fine as other countries buying from the United State who destroyed multiple countries since the end of world war 2
Not really, which is why you should buy used
China is as good of a friend to Canada as the USA. Both are not trustworthy.
Rocking the boat with trump is only asking for more problems. I don't think we should give in to their stupid demands, but we also shouldn't be purposely provocative.
We tried getting China to build their EVs here and they wouldn't agree. They would only do it if they were to be staffed by Chinese nationals that stayed in the facility - ie not providing any Canadian jobs.
On top of this, China wants our canola - they collect tariffs, but that just goes around in a circle in their communist system, it doesn't stop them buying our stuff.
Reasonable
As long as they are safety rated for here i guess it's alright.
They export them in droves to Europe, and I'd be very surprised if there's a single thing on a vehicle which isn't regulated stricter in Europe than in North America. Maybe emissions in California? Not much emissions from an EV, though.
Yuppers so that part would be fine. I'm not excited about more of my data being sold to another country/company though....
Got bad news for you if you think any modern car isn't already doing that. :(
Oh I know they are, another reason to keep my older vehicle running
You think American cars aren’t doing that?
No, that's why I said another country/company
They sell them in EU, that have higher standards than us.
Even though EU has substantial tariffs on them. If we lowered the tariffs or eliminate them, we'd have dirty cheap cars and no more domestic car industry over night.
I'm asking this in honest curiosity. Do we have a domestic car industry anymore? Does a Can-Am Spyder count? I might just be tired this morning, but I can't think of a single Canadian car manufacturer of any volume right now.
Ah, sorry, I was referring to the EU, not Canada.
I probably should have noticed that. I'll chalk it up to an early Sunday brain.
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