I've had pickle pizzas, and honestly they're great. They work for a similar reason pineapple does. The sour and sweet compliments the salty fatty flavors. Done correctly, these can be great. Anyone who thinks, for example, pineapple doesn't belong on pizza doesn't really understand flavor balance. It just needs to be on the right pizza with the right proportions. You're not wrong for not liking it, but you are wrong for saying it doesn't work without trying it.
Never had savoury pancakes? Sugar is optional. And leaving it out opens up every cake leaving your pan to be one or the other, as the sugarless ones still taste great with sweet toppings.
I don't like sugar as much as most seem to, based on a lot of foods. I like some, but much lower totals. Unsweet pancakes with a sweet sauce or topping sounds great.
Even granola is usually too sweet for me. The Muesli I sometimes find at Aldi has 6g per serving, while the granola I get usually has 14g or so, and I much prefer the Muesli. I think 10g or less is ideal, and I can add honey or sugar or some fruit/dried fruit if I need more.
A buddy of mine is currently living in Poland with his girlfriend. Some of their food is legitimately terrifying. We make fun of him all the time and tell him he's at least going to lose weight living over there
this is uhm... Christmas and Easter Polish "delicacy" and yeah, it's various stuff in jello because why not. this one is definitely Easter themed as it looks like it's supposed to be a lamb
yeahhh my family has been trying to feed me salads suspended in jello every holiday season and it seems like im the only person who questions this tradition
My partners analysis as well. BTW we're Polish and terrified by this here this and the fact people now know about some of the darkest secrets of Polish cuisine.
Eat your pizza or pasta like you want to. Nobody sane cares. Just don't name your dish wrong. A la carbonara is not made with cream, a ragou a la bolognese is not just mince and tomato sauce and a real pizza is not that ugly frozen disk.
Reminds me of German spaghetti ice cream. Vanilla ice pressed into spaghetti strands on top of whipped cream. Pureed strawberries as the "sauce" with grated white chocolate acting as "cheese".
I remember having that quite often as a kid in the 1980s. It is very delicious - somehow the consistency gives it that special something. Softer than solid ice cream because it melts a little quicker.
Fun fact - the Germans didn't invent it, it was probably an Italian ice cream shop owner living in Germany, although several others have claimed inventing it.
it's really nice! you get some short pasta, usually the tube or the swirly type, then add either plain yoghurt or cottage cheese, then sliced strawberries, of course, and sugar to taste :)
Some of us live in places where tomatoes don't grow very well. I could grow them where I live but yields are terrible without a greenhouse, which I don't have. At least I should be getting an allotment soon to grow stuff in though, but won't be going with tomatoes.
Sure, but potatoes are worthless in comparison. On a £/kg basis its one of the cheapest possible foods to buy so it isn't really worth growing them myself when I can get them for almost nothing.
Ive recently been to Italy. Every pizzeria had a Pizza wurstl on their menu. It was pizza with sliced up sausage and French fries. I think pineapple and ham is much better in comparison.
As an Italian kid I used to love it. As an adult not so much...
I believe the lowest point in my life was reached by getting a full kebab pizza (meat, lettuce, onions, tomato, mayonnaise, spicy sauce, etc...), and then dumping a whole portion of french fries on top.
Now I miss the days when I could eat something like that and still fill mostly human afterwards.
Yes. It's basically cottage cheese that's more pressed. Has a granular texture. It's harder to find in NA, but is all over Europe.
I'm Canada, after the shuttering of Western creamery in Ontario (which also used to make cream cheese), it's only the M&C brand that I can find in the east.
AFAIK, there are many countries that have pizza with ingredients considered unusual outside that country. For example, in Brazil they have chocolate pizza.
Pizza Hut in the US used to have dessert pizzas. It was a thin pie covered in a compote/jam with a little poweded sugar on it. It was about as meh as it sounds.
Yeah it was just a thin crispy crust with cinnamon apples and a swirl of frosting like drizzle. As a kid it was delicious lol. As an adult it may not hold up as well, *shrug
Edit, maybe that was Cicis actually, a buffet we went to after a basketball season.
Cheap salad/pasta/pizza buffet
CiCi's desert pizza was indeed bangin', the last one closed near me about 5 years ago. I was happy my kids got to experience them.
I dated a girl who worked at PH. She had me try theirs as a late teen/young adult. I think what got me was the dough was unsweetened. The sauce was ok but the bread was really chewy and not very sweet.
There's this café in Nagoya, Japan, that serves sweet spaghetti: the spaghetti are flavoured with strawberry or chocolate and then you have fruits and sauces on top. It's delicious.
Edit because I just went through old photos and found one of the sweet spaghetti:
Autentico or nothing for me. 🤌
This is why America is the only nation that matters on earth.
Hahaha
I love your rationalization. Have my upvote at least!
I've had pickle pizzas, and honestly they're great. They work for a similar reason pineapple does. The sour and sweet compliments the salty fatty flavors. Done correctly, these can be great. Anyone who thinks, for example, pineapple doesn't belong on pizza doesn't really understand flavor balance. It just needs to be on the right pizza with the right proportions. You're not wrong for not liking it, but you are wrong for saying it doesn't work without trying it.
Sounds interesting
Is it possible for the potato chips to be anywhere close to crispy?
America has pioneered the art of translating the horrors of war crimes into the culinary world
That does sound pretty dang good though
Looks pretty good at least
Chaos kitchen is what's up. Good things together however you want.
Apricot jam, chilli powder and apple cider vinegar make a great salad dressing.
Coleslaw, Mandarin and fried onion are a great salad.
Try new things and do what makes you happy.
You're leaving out a pretty important ingredient difference between pancakes and pasta.
Strawberrirs?
Sugar.
You don't know how I make my pasta.
😛
Never had savoury pancakes? Sugar is optional. And leaving it out opens up every cake leaving your pan to be one or the other, as the sugarless ones still taste great with sweet toppings.
Instructions unclear: put sugar in my pasta carbonara
Japan loves dumping sugar (ie ketchup) in pasta. I love a ton of weird food but it's gross af
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naporitan
I mean, at least in tomato sauces some sugar goes a long way.
Pancakes don't usually have sugar, though
I eat my pancakes without sugar, but with onions, cheese, sour cream, garlic and dill.
I also eat pasta with jam.
I once had a school lunch (public school cafeteria, everyone had the same) that consisted of apple soup, apple pasta and one fresh apple for dessert.
Fear me.
Who the fuck puts sugar in pancakes?
Egg, milk, flour, and salt. Butter for the frying pan.
https://www.ica.se/recept/pannkakor-grundsmet-2083/
I want you to boil your pancakes and put tomato sauce on them.
I don't like sugar as much as most seem to, based on a lot of foods. I like some, but much lower totals. Unsweet pancakes with a sweet sauce or topping sounds great.
Even granola is usually too sweet for me. The Muesli I sometimes find at Aldi has 6g per serving, while the granola I get usually has 14g or so, and I much prefer the Muesli. I think 10g or less is ideal, and I can add honey or sugar or some fruit/dried fruit if I need more.
I'm going to try both of those things now
We don't boil our pancakes.
well I've been convinced
A buddy of mine is currently living in Poland with his girlfriend. Some of their food is legitimately terrifying. We make fun of him all the time and tell him he's at least going to lose weight living over there
He’ll rather gain strange kinks. Losing weight with Polish cuisine is impossible.
What is that? Chicken noodle soup with gelatin crafted in to a jello dog/thing?
this is uhm... Christmas and Easter Polish "delicacy" and yeah, it's various stuff in jello because why not. this one is definitely Easter themed as it looks like it's supposed to be a lamb
This is some peak 1950s American stuff right here!
yeahhh my family has been trying to feed me salads suspended in jello every holiday season and it seems like im the only person who questions this tradition
Sorry, but savory jellos are just not something I have any interest in. Jello with hard-boiled eggs are a hard "no" for me.
preaching to the choir here! tell that to my family T–T
Lamb? It is uncle Bartek! How you dare?
Probably came out of a easter lamb form for normally cake.
My partners analysis as well. BTW we're Polish and terrified by this here this and the fact people now know about some of the darkest secrets of Polish cuisine.
You can’t lose weight anywhere in Eastern Europe. Poland isn’t an exception! And if you leave the place, you’ll miss it, and crave for more
Honestly I think every European culture or associated cultures made weird aspics once commercial gelatin sheets became available.
Eat your pizza or pasta like you want to. Nobody sane cares. Just don't name your dish wrong. A la carbonara is not made with cream, a ragou a la bolognese is not just mince and tomato sauce and a real pizza is not that ugly frozen disk.
Carbonara is made with cubes of ham and green peas and without the Americas your real pizza is a sad tomatoless hunk of shit.
Tomatoless? How can that even be called pizza? Wars could be started over this, I think we should just not say any more.
Tomatoes came from the Americas, all Italy had before was mere cheesy bread.
We march at dawn.
with cubes or slices of Guanciale or Pancetta to be correct
nice variation but not the traditional way
People that care about "traditional" food preparation to the point of policing the behavior of others deserve to get trolled.
behaviouring by telling people to name things properly... not one of my biggest sins
Summed it up.
Or you simply did not get my point, I guess.
I buy dried pasta in different shapes and mix them in the same container.
That's what you get for siding with Hitler!
For a minute I thought you meant seasonal shapes, like mixing boxes of Paw Patrol mac with Thanksgiving turkey-shaped pasta.
Yeah them too
Actually, what you just did is something that many Italian families do
Reminds me of German spaghetti ice cream. Vanilla ice pressed into spaghetti strands on top of whipped cream. Pureed strawberries as the "sauce" with grated white chocolate acting as "cheese".
Username does not check out.
Maybe the username is expressing an intense attraction.
Wait where could one acquire such deliciousness
Basically every ice cream parlor in Germany has it on its menu.
I remember having that quite often as a kid in the 1980s. It is very delicious - somehow the consistency gives it that special something. Softer than solid ice cream because it melts a little quicker.
Fun fact - the Germans didn't invent it, it was probably an Italian ice cream shop owner living in Germany, although several others have claimed inventing it.
huh... i need a spaghetti press i guess
I would eat the fuck out of that, it sounds amazing
At least it's not real spaghetti. If someone made that out of real spaghetti, though, i'd reenact the plot of Venicephrenia.
That's why people keep invading you guys
Yeah man about that... We can send you our strawberries and local pasta. No need to come again! Bitte...
Pasta with strawberries was fashionable in Italy during the eighties/nineties https://blog.giallozafferano.it/spuntidibonta/ricetta-pasta-con-le-fragole-e-caprino/
This is the kind of content I come to Lemmy for. I'm going to try making that
I tried something like this the last time I saw a “strawberries and pasta” post and it was pretty good actually.
Haven’t made it again since though so that‘s maybe saying something…
Yeah exactly, worth the try but that's it imo
Tomatoes are berries. Strawberries are not berries.
Someone tell me more about pasta with strawberries please. I say this as a pineapple on pizza aficionado.
it's really nice! you get some short pasta, usually the tube or the swirly type, then add either plain yoghurt or cottage cheese, then sliced strawberries, of course, and sugar to taste :)
can be served either hot or cold!
Aha, so it's treating the pasta as one would a fruit filled pierogi or crepe. Just a wheaty medium for delivery of fruity goodness.
yes exactly :3
Shitty supermarket tomatoes aren't sweet. Homegrown tomatoes can be very sweet and very delicious.
Some of us live in places where tomatoes don't grow very well. I could grow them where I live but yields are terrible without a greenhouse, which I don't have. At least I should be getting an allotment soon to grow stuff in though, but won't be going with tomatoes.
Tomato Europe vs Potato Europe.
Sure, but potatoes are worthless in comparison. On a £/kg basis its one of the cheapest possible foods to buy so it isn't really worth growing them myself when I can get them for almost nothing.
I absolutely do not use heaps of sugar to make my tomato sauce.
The Italian version linked above is a dessert/ sweet breakfast treat:
(Translated to English by Google)
Ingredients: Strawberry Pasta
200g farfalle (pasta)
125g strawberries
100g goat cheese
2 tablespoons milk
2 tablespoons lemon juice
1/2 lemon zest
2 tablespoons cooking cream (preferably UHT)
2 sprigs of mint
[add seven cups of high fructose corn syrup if serving to Americans]
🤓
Ive recently been to Italy. Every pizzeria had a Pizza wurstl on their menu. It was pizza with sliced up sausage and French fries. I think pineapple and ham is much better in comparison.
That makes sense
What the fuck
As an Italian kid I used to love it. As an adult not so much...
I believe the lowest point in my life was reached by getting a full kebab pizza (meat, lettuce, onions, tomato, mayonnaise, spicy sauce, etc...), and then dumping a whole portion of french fries on top.
Now I miss the days when I could eat something like that and still fill mostly human afterwards.
Tbh that sounds fine to me. I’ve had potato on pizza, so that sounds pretty similar.
Like a tater tot, little discs of potato, was it a breakfast pizza at least?
It's usually super thin discs on a white pie with pesto or rosemary and mozz/parm. Worth a try!
I've had lasagna made this way, pretty similar I imagine.
Nah, just like little cubes of potato along with other standard ingredients. It's good!
I try to be open minded but that's just too far
And it's generally either called American pizza or German pizza!
Eeh, i don't like acid things on another acid thing so i prefer potatoes
Meanwhile in Hungary:
Just the tip of the ice berg.
I don't think these are so crazy, if you compare to pizzocheri or other stuff from the north of Italy it has a quite similar character
... Dry cottage cheese?
Yes. It's basically cottage cheese that's more pressed. Has a granular texture. It's harder to find in NA, but is all over Europe.
I'm Canada, after the shuttering of Western creamery in Ontario (which also used to make cream cheese), it's only the M&C brand that I can find in the east.
That sounds like cotija to me
Not aged. And not as dry.
It still has moisture and is fresh. Fairly short half life. Just not as creamy as your usual cottage cheese.
that sounds like cottage cheese i might actually like. i may be speaking with my cheese boy tomorrow
Doesn't Chicago still serve Gazpacho in bread bowls?
Alright, fine. Leave me to my deep dish, you can have fun eating your grease soaked napkin
I'm just playing, really I'm the crazy lady that likes pineapple on pizza!
AFAIK, there are many countries that have pizza with ingredients considered unusual outside that country. For example, in Brazil they have chocolate pizza.
Pizza with Nutella/pistacchio cream is actually a relatively common dessert in pizza places in Italy...
Nothing about that seems bad to me
Pizza Hut in the US used to have dessert pizzas. It was a thin pie covered in a compote/jam with a little poweded sugar on it. It was about as meh as it sounds.
The cinnamon apple one I remember being alright. Granted that was 20+ years ago, so all pizza tasted good when I was still a teenager
I'd eat that
Yeah it was just a thin crispy crust with cinnamon apples and a swirl of frosting like drizzle. As a kid it was delicious lol. As an adult it may not hold up as well, *shrug
Edit, maybe that was Cicis actually, a buffet we went to after a basketball season. Cheap salad/pasta/pizza buffet
CiCi's desert pizza was indeed bangin', the last one closed near me about 5 years ago. I was happy my kids got to experience them.
I dated a girl who worked at PH. She had me try theirs as a late teen/young adult. I think what got me was the dough was unsweetened. The sauce was ok but the bread was really chewy and not very sweet.
Probably used the same pizza dough, or they ran out and the worker decided it was easier at the time. A thin crust probably helps with that
Perogie time is best time.
pierogi with strawberries also exist yes :)
How is this legitimate cuisine from elsewhere in the world and not something 19-year-old me came up with while extremely drunk?
You're discussing Polish cuisine, of course someone came up with that extremely drunk.
i mean, why not both??
There's this café in Nagoya, Japan, that serves sweet spaghetti: the spaghetti are flavoured with strawberry or chocolate and then you have fruits and sauces on top. It's delicious.
Edit because I just went through old photos and found one of the sweet spaghetti:
Okay I’ve always been a pineapple on pizza guy but strawberries in pasta is too far for me.
Don't even get me started on how good strawberries are on pizza
They’re offended by pineapple on pizza, wait till they hear Sweden puts bananas and curry powder on their pizza
And it is delicious. Delicious delicious heresy.
The real reason why this is the final century of human history.
It's like a PB & J right?
I believe italian make risoto with strawberries.
lol, the plates are empty. "Thanks but no."
I was all over that until the raisins. Disgustayn!
Broccoli lasagna is wonderful. This is not.
True
Spaghetti and Nutella?
I don't know.
My mind goes to spaghetti, poppy seeds, canned strawberries and maybe powdered sugar.
Thanks for the idea!!
This means war!
Im dying at how funny this is!!
Mmmm... Spaghetti with cream and sugar, sprinkled with cottage chasse... My childhood delicacy!
Tuna & Pineapple on my pizza, but I also make sweet lasagne with a chocolate sauce1 with pears, and with vanilla sauce. And yes, cheese.
Footnotes
bechamel with cocoa ↩
You can bring the sodas to the potluck
Nah they gotta work their way up from napkin duty first to prove they responsible
Had it once (homemade) with crema do balsamico and Rucola. Was pretty ok.
I have read that they are really good.
Maybe I should try some one day.
Few years ago I had a cheeseburger with strawberries in lieu of tomatoes. It makes much more sense than you'd think once you try it.
Did it have ketchup and cheese and so on?
Queso Fresa- $11.00.
Beef, ham, cheese, strawberry, Anaheim w- sour cream, lettuce, ketchup, avocado, mayonnaise, tomato, onion, mustard, jalapeno and fries
(from their online menu)
That is....all the things.
Yeah man, it was an event of a burger.
Been to Krakow on a school trip, the soups they made there taste like ass.
Krakow is a tourist trap. All touristy places don't care about returning customers, thus food will be bad, or - if you're lucky - just meh.