So this just happened in Alberta, Canada šØš¦. A driver hit a 17-year-old girl in a marked crosswalk, got out of his vehicle, got upset at her, before leaving the scene
She didnāt even ācome out of nowhereā looks like the driver should have seen her crossing with enough time. Thatās assuming he even looked up from his phone
When I was 5, a motorcycle run into me on the sidewalk making me do like a 720 spin while they crashed like 20 meters later. They immediately got up and started cursing at me before they took off when a Kiosk attendant got out. These people have no shame.
Yeah, I've experienced similar two times. The worst time was a cyclist really staring at me as I walked, I didn't change my pace at all and would not have been in his way if he just continued his path and pace. But he did an awkward speed up then tried to break and veered into me, we both fell to the ground and got scraped up and he got so fucking mad. I didn't say anything, just looked at him with a "are you fucking serious?" Face, and that just made him even more mad so he wrestled with his bike to get it up then started walking after me trying to make me stop. But two other adults had seen it all and intervened, I was just an socially awkward and very skinny teenager at the time so I would have not done well by myself.
I think his behaviour sort of makes sense if you consider how scary it could be for him (bear with me).
He's clearly in the wrong. He knows it. Especially in the court of public opinion; he hit a kid, walking to school. It's broad daylight and it happened at a crosswalk. It's not looking good.
Surely, then, it can't be his fault. Taking responsibility is not an option, it doesn't even cross his mind. If he lashes out, if he berates the person he hit for doing something wrong, maybe he can convince himself it wasn't his fault. Maybe he can convince the girl or the bystanders that it wasn't his fault.
I think this is also why people can be so opposed to bike lanes or other infrastructure that promotes mixed use of roads. When most things are built with only cars in mind, it's easier to blame a pedestrian or cyclist because they seem to be guests in a space for cars.
Awwww poor baby. As much as I understand what youāre saying it only works if heās a monkey brained piece of crap who shouldnāt be allowed near any responsibility ever. His behaviour only makes sense up until the point where I absolutely refuse to allow that to be something accepted as even the worst. Itās not a C- barely-passing grade, itās a big olā F on his human-being report card.
No and I get that(even said as much) itās just that it was fine a few decades ago when people were learning how to be better but at this point itās not good enough anymore, ya know?
Gives me Southern Ontario vibes. Friends have been in the cross walk and when light turned green drivers aggressively accelerate to get you out of the way.
BC at least has a culture of pedestrian rights. You get near the curb and cars stop.
Man, iād stand right in front of a car that did that to me. Fuck your rolling death machine, i have rights too. Iāll cling to your hood like a loony if you try to run me over.
I got so mad at someone doing that to me, almost hit me on a turn. I turned on him and yelled/cursed thru his window, approached his window and pointed at him yelling to "Pay the FUCK attention, asshole". I so threw him off he parked for 2 mins on a side road before driving off more cautiously. One day it may turn to something more physical, hasn't yet
Albertans are, by and large, our shittiest people. Like, I know some nice people from there but theyāre rare and I only know them because they left. Theyāre loud, obnoxious, stupid as hell, and the only thing really have is oil so theyāve made it, and cosplaying being country, their entire personality.
Notice how when she gets hit she falls over the hood, does a little spin, and ends up sitting on the ground? It doesn't even look like her head hit the ground. That sucks.
But if this was any modern truck or SUV, and not a minivan, she might be straight dead. There's no rolling over the hood of one of those, it's just grill into face, back of skull into ground, and if you're really lucky it doesn't roll over top of you afterwards.
This is so surreal: She just gets up and keeps walking, while the driver - who was either drunk or just distracted - tries to blame her for the whole thing.
I would like to see a followup on this story where the driver faces legal consequences.
I was hit by a car from behind in my early twenties. I sprung up after the impact to look for the person I was walking with. I had a few scrapes and a deeper cut in my arm but nothing that I even noticed for a few minutes. The next day is when that kind of impact gets you. For weeks after, taking an elevator or riding a bus would hurt. It took months to take any running steps. I feel really bad for this girl, it's a big deal even if she's walked it off at the time.
I thought the same thing. She took a really serious hit! Kids that age are like cats - they just don't want to be embarrassed, so they just walk it off, and suffer later.
Fuckers like this should not be allowed to drive a vehicle. I am betting he was on his phone. That is only way I can explain why he didn't notice her until the last second.
It's because an oncoming narrow object (bicycle, motorcycle) looks stationary and/or far away. Weaving side to side is known to snap drivers out of their stupor.
Omg that is insane that she just gets up and walks away. I see back and spinal,injuries, injuries on both legs. And possible damage to both arms. This guy needs his license revoked for life and this girl needs medical attention immediately.
Police said they were dispatched on Oct. 2 at approximately 8:38 a.m. to assist EMS with an injured teenager in the area of Windhaven Gate and Windstone Road in southwest Airdrie.
Upon arrival, it was determined the teen had been crossing the street in a marked crosswalk when she was hit by a white Dodge Caravan, RCMP wrote in a release.
The 17-year-old sustained minor injuries as a result of the collision.
Police said the driver fled the scene, driving eastbound toward 8 Street.
So it sounds like she got medical attention pretty quickly and her injuries were minor, thankfully. Which is pretty remarkable with how fast the driver was going and how she went flying. But good news for the poor kid. I hope she gets a follow-up though, because sometimes injuries from these things can take hours or days to manifest.
Like you, I hope they catch the driver and he gets his license revoked, and also some charges brought against him. His driving was irresponsible, and leaving the scene after hitting someone is a really shitty move.
I know others were positing that because there's no audio maybe he was freaked out and upset that she got up and started walking away. But even in that situation who the fuck acts that way?! Maybe, just maybe... She was walking away to get out of the crosswalk and away from the lunatic who just ran her over. It sounds at least equally reasonable that as she is a teenager girl and got hit by an older male driver so he might fear for her safety and wanted to say least get clear of the vehicle and further danger.
It's remarkable she had minor injuries until you realize that the grill of the vehicle that hit her is designed specifically for pedestrian safety.
Unlike pretty much every SUV in truck on the road, Which would have done significantly more damage or outright killed her from the head injury it would inflict from the same impact.
This kind of situation is probably not that rare. I know a guy who got rear ended at a red light by a minivan while on his bike. Broke both of his legs. While he's howling in pain on the ground the woman who hit him gets out, stands over him for a second, gets back in the car, and drives away leaving him there to wait for other aid. She never got caught. He guessed that she got out to help, saw how badly she had maimed him, and decided to flee instead.
On a course i was once given the statistic that at 30mph 90% of pedestrians die, and at 20mph 90% live.
Now consider (from the same course) that breaking isnāt linear and most stopping happens at the end. So if youāre going 30 and would stop at point x during an emergency stop, then if you start an emergency stop at the same point while doing 40 youāll reach point x doing 30.
Yeah. I donāt speed, especially in areas with pedestrians.
A kid got hit on his bike in my community recently. I'm not sure of the outcome. What is the town doing about it? The local police are stopping kids and giving them fines for not wearing helmets...
Just a couple of days ago I had to bang on the hood of a car to get the driver to notice me. I swear to god they get stupider and even more entitled every day.
Mostly filling with redneck refugees from the south, looking for oil, avoiding the IRS and spreading their sickness to the rest of Canada. Like 'Murican entitlement such as not caring about pedestrians.
Does Canada have a road paint shortage? How is that a crosswalk? It's barely 2 thin lines! Paint the damn thing so it is clearly visible. I would be scared trying to cross one of those.
EDIT: For the people without reading comprehension: I'm not justifying the dude in any way. Just commenting on the awful crossing marks.
Not an excuse: the lines are clearly visible even if zebra markings would be better. More importantly, while I donāt know Canadian laws, usually pedestrians have the right of way regardless. You canāt just use the excuse that you were going too fast to stop, you canāt be angry at them because you hit them, and you canāt just take off.
Yes there are quite a few Mormons in Alberta and a lot of them travel down here to Utah since it's a straight shot down here. We see so many Alberta license plates in Utah county, which is incidentally one of the absolute worst places to drive in the entire United States.
I mean, it's a marked cross walk but it also appears to possibly be at an intersection with lights. Seeing as there is also a pedestrian crossing on the bottom right, at least one of those people is crossing when they probably are not supposed to be if there is a light controlled intersection there.
Doesn't mean that they deserve to be hit, or that the driver wasn't an ass, but context matters.
I'll play devils advocate here. We have no audio and no testimony from the victim or witnesses in the article. He only exits the van when she walks away.
He could have been unjustifiably distracted, hit the girl, was collecting himself to get out of the van, and then she just walked away. So he gets out and says, "what the hell, you can't just walk away from something like that. We need to call an ambulance or get you to a hospital or something" and her, being a teenager who would rather not engage at all would brush it off with "no, I'm fine, fuck off".
What do you do? You can't detain the girl. So she leaves and what? You call the cops and say "I fucked up and hit someone with my van." Who does that help? Now shes lost in the crowd. You can't just stay there, so you drive away. What else is there to do?
He's 100% guilty of hitting a pedestrian who was plainly walking in a clearly marked crosswalk where it is likely busy with other highschool students as there are clearly others in the video. Don't get me wrong, fuck that guy. We can fairly judge him on that account. And that verbal interaction absolutely could have been him victim blaming, but that is conjecture. I'd believe any first hand witness over him, and pretty much any secondhand retelling from someone a witness spoke to. But we have no evidence whatsoever about what was said.
What do you do? You canāt detain the girl. So she leaves and what? You call the cops and say āI fucked up and hit someone with my van.ā Who does that help? Now shes lost in the crowd. You canāt just stay there, so you drive away. What else is there to do?
Even if every charitable assumption you've made is correct, you and every reasonable person knows exactly what he should have done.
You said it yourself. You man up, you call the cops, you tell them āI fucked up and hit someone with my vanā, and that there is a human being that needs help. That's it. That's what you do. That's what every single person should have done.
It seems to me you're trying to engage in healthy dialogue, but "That's a ragebait title" is just not true; the headline does, in fact, summarize events rather well.
The adult, the driver of the car, that hit and injured another human, let alone a kid, bears 100% of blame and took none of the responsibility.
Wow, I can't wrap my head around hitting someone with a car and then berating them before driving away. Psychopathic shit. I hope they catch him.
She didnāt even ācome out of nowhereā looks like the driver should have seen her crossing with enough time. Thatās assuming he even looked up from his phone
When I was 5, a motorcycle run into me on the sidewalk making me do like a 720 spin while they crashed like 20 meters later. They immediately got up and started cursing at me before they took off when a Kiosk attendant got out. These people have no shame.
Yeah, I've experienced similar two times. The worst time was a cyclist really staring at me as I walked, I didn't change my pace at all and would not have been in his way if he just continued his path and pace. But he did an awkward speed up then tried to break and veered into me, we both fell to the ground and got scraped up and he got so fucking mad. I didn't say anything, just looked at him with a "are you fucking serious?" Face, and that just made him even more mad so he wrestled with his bike to get it up then started walking after me trying to make me stop. But two other adults had seen it all and intervened, I was just an socially awkward and very skinny teenager at the time so I would have not done well by myself.
I think his behaviour sort of makes sense if you consider how scary it could be for him (bear with me).
He's clearly in the wrong. He knows it. Especially in the court of public opinion; he hit a kid, walking to school. It's broad daylight and it happened at a crosswalk. It's not looking good.
Surely, then, it can't be his fault. Taking responsibility is not an option, it doesn't even cross his mind. If he lashes out, if he berates the person he hit for doing something wrong, maybe he can convince himself it wasn't his fault. Maybe he can convince the girl or the bystanders that it wasn't his fault.
I think this is also why people can be so opposed to bike lanes or other infrastructure that promotes mixed use of roads. When most things are built with only cars in mind, it's easier to blame a pedestrian or cyclist because they seem to be guests in a space for cars.
Awwww poor baby. As much as I understand what youāre saying it only works if heās a monkey brained piece of crap who shouldnāt be allowed near any responsibility ever. His behaviour only makes sense up until the point where I absolutely refuse to allow that to be something accepted as even the worst. Itās not a C- barely-passing grade, itās a big olā F on his human-being report card.
I was not justifying his actions, I was offering possible explanation. I was also not evaluating/grading him or his actions.
No and I get that(even said as much) itās just that it was fine a few decades ago when people were learning how to be better but at this point itās not good enough anymore, ya know?
Gives me Southern Ontario vibes. Friends have been in the cross walk and when light turned green drivers aggressively accelerate to get you out of the way.
BC at least has a culture of pedestrian rights. You get near the curb and cars stop.
Man, iād stand right in front of a car that did that to me. Fuck your rolling death machine, i have rights too. Iāll cling to your hood like a loony if you try to run me over.
I got so mad at someone doing that to me, almost hit me on a turn. I turned on him and yelled/cursed thru his window, approached his window and pointed at him yelling to "Pay the FUCK attention, asshole". I so threw him off he parked for 2 mins on a side road before driving off more cautiously. One day it may turn to something more physical, hasn't yet
Looks like you made a change for the better
This guy should have his driving licence revoked.
He should have his legs revoked
He should have his ass kicked
Then his license revoked
I thought Canadians were supposed to be nice?!
It's Alberta.
Albertans are, by and large, our shittiest people. Like, I know some nice people from there but theyāre rare and I only know them because they left. Theyāre loud, obnoxious, stupid as hell, and the only thing really have is oil so theyāve made it, and cosplaying being country, their entire personality.
Fuck Alberta.
Sounds like the Texas of Canada.
Yup.
american immigrant. probably
Nah. It says Alberta right in the headline. No need for looking elsewhere.
Notice how when she gets hit she falls over the hood, does a little spin, and ends up sitting on the ground? It doesn't even look like her head hit the ground. That sucks.
But if this was any modern truck or SUV, and not a minivan, she might be straight dead. There's no rolling over the hood of one of those, it's just grill into face, back of skull into ground, and if you're really lucky it doesn't roll over top of you afterwards.
Yeeeeep
Modern SUV & Truck craze is just deadly to pedestrians and... All other vehicles on the road.
It's insane
This is so surreal: She just gets up and keeps walking, while the driver - who was either drunk or just distracted - tries to blame her for the whole thing.
I would like to see a followup on this story where the driver faces legal consequences.
I was hit by a car from behind in my early twenties. I sprung up after the impact to look for the person I was walking with. I had a few scrapes and a deeper cut in my arm but nothing that I even noticed for a few minutes. The next day is when that kind of impact gets you. For weeks after, taking an elevator or riding a bus would hurt. It took months to take any running steps. I feel really bad for this girl, it's a big deal even if she's walked it off at the time.
I thought the same thing. She took a really serious hit! Kids that age are like cats - they just don't want to be embarrassed, so they just walk it off, and suffer later.
Hit and run Distracted driving Failure to report and accident
No one seems to be aware that the GODDAMN car does not have right of way in a crosswalk.
Almost had a fistfight about this once
These people need a swift punch yo the face to wake them the fuck up
Fuckers like this should not be allowed to drive a vehicle. I am betting he was on his phone. That is only way I can explain why he didn't notice her until the last second.
I've seen drivers look me right in the eyes and still pull into my bike lane. Some drivers just don't register anything smaller than a car.
It's because an oncoming narrow object (bicycle, motorcycle) looks stationary and/or far away. Weaving side to side is known to snap drivers out of their stupor.
That girl is limping, I hope she went to the get it check out. Poor thing, just mining her own business to get berated and traumatized by some prick.
Article mentioned it's minor injuries, but seeing how she get flung off by the car it's definitely not just bruise, but probably nothing permanent.
Omg that is insane that she just gets up and walks away. I see back and spinal,injuries, injuries on both legs. And possible damage to both arms. This guy needs his license revoked for life and this girl needs medical attention immediately.
From the article:
So it sounds like she got medical attention pretty quickly and her injuries were minor, thankfully. Which is pretty remarkable with how fast the driver was going and how she went flying. But good news for the poor kid. I hope she gets a follow-up though, because sometimes injuries from these things can take hours or days to manifest.
Like you, I hope they catch the driver and he gets his license revoked, and also some charges brought against him. His driving was irresponsible, and leaving the scene after hitting someone is a really shitty move.
I know others were positing that because there's no audio maybe he was freaked out and upset that she got up and started walking away. But even in that situation who the fuck acts that way?! Maybe, just maybe... She was walking away to get out of the crosswalk and away from the lunatic who just ran her over. It sounds at least equally reasonable that as she is a teenager girl and got hit by an older male driver so he might fear for her safety and wanted to say least get clear of the vehicle and further danger.
It's remarkable she had minor injuries until you realize that the grill of the vehicle that hit her is designed specifically for pedestrian safety.
Unlike pretty much every SUV in truck on the road, Which would have done significantly more damage or outright killed her from the head injury it would inflict from the same impact.
This kind of situation is probably not that rare. I know a guy who got rear ended at a red light by a minivan while on his bike. Broke both of his legs. While he's howling in pain on the ground the woman who hit him gets out, stands over him for a second, gets back in the car, and drives away leaving him there to wait for other aid. She never got caught. He guessed that she got out to help, saw how badly she had maimed him, and decided to flee instead.
And this is why we should have 30 km/h speed limits.
Looking at the video he does appear to be going that speed or less. Probably why she isnāt dead.
Which is exactly why we should have 30 km/h speed limits. The difference in survivability is massive at lower speeds.
On a course i was once given the statistic that at 30mph 90% of pedestrians die, and at 20mph 90% live.
Now consider (from the same course) that breaking isnāt linear and most stopping happens at the end. So if youāre going 30 and would stop at point x during an emergency stop, then if you start an emergency stop at the same point while doing 40 youāll reach point x doing 30.
Yeah. I donāt speed, especially in areas with pedestrians.
And by that logic we should enforce helmets for every pedestrian and cover the whole public space with pillows.
Putting words in peopleās mouths is never a good argument.
Yes because that's exactly what I did... Or maybe that's what you are doing right now? Acting like I do?
They didn't put any word in your mouth. You, however, did.
We wouldnāt need to do that if we just made cars drive slower.
What are you, some kind of an anti-pillowite?
Imagine being triggered by public safety š
This guy needs charges and the poor girl needs to get checked out medically.
Fuck sakes Alberta
If that was my kid, Murder was the case that they gave me.
A kid got hit on his bike in my community recently. I'm not sure of the outcome. What is the town doing about it? The local police are stopping kids and giving them fines for not wearing helmets...
Why is it always Alberta seeing the USA as a role model when it comes to behaviour and mentality?
If this were the US, then there would have been at least one gun involved.
It's the petro-curse is my guess.
Just a couple of days ago I had to bang on the hood of a car to get the driver to notice me. I swear to god they get stupider and even more entitled every day.
I've done that too many times.
Maybe they need a baseball bat or a sledgehammer to the hood of the car to wake them the fuck up.
I've been in Alberta for a few weeks. Can't wait for this place to implode. Hate it here. A lot of self entitlement
Are you there permanently?
Nah, I'm going back home. Hate his place... and it's cold š„¶
I'd like to travel through Lake Louise again once, but that's about it, only because it's beautiful. But Alberta has terrible politics.
That's one thing I gotta say about this place, it is scenic
Hunt them down and skin their balls.
Mostly filling with redneck refugees from the south, looking for oil, avoiding the IRS and spreading their sickness to the rest of Canada. Like 'Murican entitlement such as not caring about pedestrians.
Bon Jovi have a verse that starts with the correct medicine for this gentleman. Neck should also do the trick.
Does Canada have a road paint shortage? How is that a crosswalk? It's barely 2 thin lines! Paint the damn thing so it is clearly visible. I would be scared trying to cross one of those.
EDIT: For the people without reading comprehension: I'm not justifying the dude in any way. Just commenting on the awful crossing marks.
Not an excuse: the lines are clearly visible even if zebra markings would be better. More importantly, while I donāt know Canadian laws, usually pedestrians have the right of way regardless. You canāt just use the excuse that you were going too fast to stop, you canāt be angry at them because you hit them, and you canāt just take off.
They all look more or less like that and there are signs alerting drivers to their presence. They are unmistakable. This guy is a douche.
How many want to bet he is a Mormon asshole and often drives in Utah county usa
How did we get Mormon out of this? Are there a lot of Mormons in Alberta?
Yes there are quite a few Mormons in Alberta and a lot of them travel down here to Utah since it's a straight shot down here. We see so many Alberta license plates in Utah county, which is incidentally one of the absolute worst places to drive in the entire United States.
Looks like an arrest was made
I mean, it's a marked cross walk but it also appears to possibly be at an intersection with lights. Seeing as there is also a pedestrian crossing on the bottom right, at least one of those people is crossing when they probably are not supposed to be if there is a light controlled intersection there.
Doesn't mean that they deserve to be hit, or that the driver wasn't an ass, but context matters.
I'll play devils advocate here. We have no audio and no testimony from the victim or witnesses in the article. He only exits the van when she walks away.
He could have been unjustifiably distracted, hit the girl, was collecting himself to get out of the van, and then she just walked away. So he gets out and says, "what the hell, you can't just walk away from something like that. We need to call an ambulance or get you to a hospital or something" and her, being a teenager who would rather not engage at all would brush it off with "no, I'm fine, fuck off".
What do you do? You can't detain the girl. So she leaves and what? You call the cops and say "I fucked up and hit someone with my van." Who does that help? Now shes lost in the crowd. You can't just stay there, so you drive away. What else is there to do?
He's 100% guilty of hitting a pedestrian who was plainly walking in a clearly marked crosswalk where it is likely busy with other highschool students as there are clearly others in the video. Don't get me wrong, fuck that guy. We can fairly judge him on that account. And that verbal interaction absolutely could have been him victim blaming, but that is conjecture. I'd believe any first hand witness over him, and pretty much any secondhand retelling from someone a witness spoke to. But we have no evidence whatsoever about what was said.
That's a ragebait title.
Even if every charitable assumption you've made is correct, you and every reasonable person knows exactly what he should have done.
You said it yourself. You man up, you call the cops, you tell them āI fucked up and hit someone with my vanā, and that there is a human being that needs help. That's it. That's what you do. That's what every single person should have done.
It seems to me you're trying to engage in healthy dialogue, but "That's a ragebait title" is just not true; the headline does, in fact, summarize events rather well.
The adult, the driver of the car, that hit and injured another human, let alone a kid, bears 100% of blame and took none of the responsibility.
Someone acting like you suppose the driver might have been doesn't usually then immediately drive off and fail to identify themselves to police
Anyone else find it odd someone just happened to be recording this on a handheld device?
Edit: a less sleep-deprived user has pointed out this is probably CCTV recorded on a cell phone. Get your rest, friends.
Suspect it's somebody filming their CCTV screen from a handheld device.
Holy shit I need to sleep š¤£
CCTV probably
Yes, all the conspiracionists.
Not really, everyone carries a camera with them at all times and a bunch of folks have one or more mounted on their cars